I've Had Enough Time With "InYourDreams"

[markolas]

Originally Posted by tabruns

No, but not for the reason that you're probably thinking. Most IYD songs won't be established songs on the radio not due to quality but due to 1. where Nicks is in her career and 2. the state of the music industry now.

Had IYD been released earlier in Nicks' career, a number of songs on it could have become standards: "Secret Love", "For What It's Worth", "New Orleans", "Moonlight", "Annabel Lee" and "Italian Summer" in particular.

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[Christopher]

Originally Posted by Newzchspy

OK, IYD is not one of my favs, however, lemme ask you all this. Is there a single song on the IYD CD that you believe or can honestly say that in 5, 10,20,30 years from now will hold up well and will be played on a Top 40 rock or pop station. I am referring to either FM songs or Stevie solo songs such as Dreams, Stand Back, Rhiannon, Landslide, Edge of, all of which are still regularly played on Top 40 radio. I just don't see a single song, other than perhaps Secret Love that will be played. In fact, the ONLY song I have heard being played on XM/Sirius is Secret Love.

Note that I am not saying it has to sell a LOT or be played a LOT on Radio/itunes etc to be a great song. I am just asking if there's any particular song (s) that will be heard in the future from this CD? I can't think of any.

Yes. Though Stevie has not had a popular Top 40 hit since Rooms On Fire - over 20 yrs ago in 1989 - I think there are songs from the past 20 years that hold up easily to her "classics" that also happened to be radio hits. Moonlight, For What It's Worth, You May Be The One, In Your Dreams & Annabel Lee immediately spring to mind without a doubt as pure Stevie classics on the new album as good as anything in her heyday, just as If You Ever Did Believe, Planets Of The Universe, Trouble In Shangri La, Thrown Down & Destiny Rules are also modern day Stevie classics arguably as good as her older "hits".

For whatever multiple reasons that are completely out of our control, Stevie just has not been as successful on the radio or pop singles charts with new material since the late 80's, but that does make her newer music any less impactful to those that do listen. And yes, absolutely - Stevie has recorded new songs that back in the day would have been bonafide radio hits. I also think New Orleans could be a single. I just don't think Stevie can get radio attention in a big way for new material these days. And actually that goes for all the way back to 1991.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by Christopher

Yes. Though Stevie has not had a popular Top 40 hit since Rooms On Fire - over 20 yrs ago in 1989 - I think there are songs from the past 20 years that hold up easily to her "classics" that also happened to be radio hits. Moonlight, For What It's Worth, You May Be The One, In Your Dreams & Annabel Lee immediately spring to mind without a doubt as pure Stevie classics on the new album as good as anything in her heyday, just as If You Ever Did Believe, Planets Of The Universe, Trouble In Shangri La, Thrown Down & Destiny Rules are also modern day Stevie classics arguably as good as her older "hits".

For whatever multiple reasons that are completely out of our control, Stevie just has not been as successful on the radio or pop singles charts with new material since the late 80's, but that does make her newer music any less impactful to those that do listen. And yes, absolutely - Stevie has recorded new songs that back in the day would have been bonafide radio hits. I also think New Orleans could be a single. I just don't think Stevie can get radio attention in a big way for new material these days. And actually that goes for all the way back to 1991.

"New Orleans" is a perfect example of a hit from yesteryear. Marc Cohn had a monster hit with "Walking in Memphis," which is not so different from NO, like, 20 years ago. Heck, if she'd released it five years ago (when its subject matter was timely), it would have still been a hit. Today... not so much. I also think "Annabel Lee" would have been a hit 20 years ago; it has a crunchy, postmodern-folky vibe ala the Traveling Wilburys. But as much as I love "Moonlight," I still think there is something a little bit off about it; it still sounds like mashed up song fragments to me. And I think it could have been produced with a harder techno rock edge on the choruses. I dunno... maybe a good descriptor for how I feel about it is "defanged," ironically enough!

The difficult thing about IYD is that, indeed, there is nothing in it on the magnitude of, say, "Edge of Seventeen." But then again, there isn't any filler at all like "Cry Wolf." It's just a consistent, solid piece of work that needs to be appreciated as a whole. Accordingly, there really aren't any clear marquee singles on it. Perhaps this is the kind of album that needs to shed five or six singles in order for people to realize that it is worth checking out. I was listening to Adele's new album and it just got me so depressed (and puzzled) about the state of pop culture today. Adele's album is truly abysmal. "Rolling in the Deep" is a fantastic single, but I don't hear anything else on there except more middling mediocre meditations on being in love, being out of love, yadda yadda yadda. Still, that one single is enough to move a shti-ton of albums. By comparison, Stevie's album is so much richer, varied and deep. Adele is like grape juice to Stevie's cabernet sauvignon.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

It's just a consistent, solid piece of work that needs to be appreciated as a whole.

{in my best Kyle Braflovski voice}

DUDE!!!! That's what I'VE been saying.

[mikephxaz]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I was listening to Adele's new album and it just got me so depressed (and puzzled) about the state of pop culture today. Adele's album is truly abysmal. "Rolling in the Deep" is a fantastic single, but I don't hear anything else on there except more middling mediocre meditations on being in love, being out of love, yadda yadda yadda. Still, that one single is enough to move a shti-ton of albums. By comparison, Stevie's album is so much richer, varied and deep. Adele is like grape juice to Stevie's cabernet sauvignon.

I will have to respectfully disagree with your thoughts...if the "state of pop music" was more albums like Adele's, then we would be in great shape...she deserves to sell 3 million and more copies...She had a beautiful album "19" and then twenty eight months later put out her most recent stellar cd '21'...Stevie's albums have been 10 years apart and Stevie's various struggles over the last 25 years with drugs, depression, etc., has hurt her fan base. Stevie is lucky that we all were so entranced by her, even during the low perid, that we stuck by her side ....Stevie has been solely responsible for her lost time between releases....I love In Your Dreams and it will be my close second favorite album of the year...second to Adele's "21".

[cliffdweller]

This album doesn't have one dud on it. Aside from Belladonna, song for song, it's her most consistant album. I love TWH, but Gate and Garden and Sable On Blonde always get skipped when I listen to it. I don't skip anything on IYD. Every song on the album has it's merits. So I think I would have to rank this way:

1. Belladonna
2. In Your Dreams
3. The Wild Heart
4. TISL
5. Rock A Little
6. TOSOTM
7. Street Angel

[Keith]

very much.

How are the songs playing out.. I figured by "how many times have you played it" on my ipod would be the most telling.. (i didn't count Secret Love since it came to me in January..) so the Stevie / Mac songs on my top 25 playlist are..

1. Moonlight
2. Thrown Down (alt version)
3. For What Its Worth
4. You May Be the One
5. Sara
6. I Know I'm not Wrong
7. In Your Dreams
8. Italian Summer
9. Rhiannon
10. Wild Sargasso Sea
11. Everybody Loves You
12. Ghosts Are Gone
13. New Orleans
14. Honey Hi
15. Save Me a Place..

the others are non-mac songs.. like Norwegian Wood..

"..she asked me to stay and she told me to sit anywhere.. so I looked around and I noticed there wasn't a chair.,."

[lvhlive!]

I have to say I don't think I'm going to know how I rank it in the grand scheme of things for a few months... I've been listening to it almost non-stop since I got it a month ago and I know that I love it, but I don't ever listen to the songs mixed in with other Stevie songs. I listen to IYD, then move on. I do feel deep down though that it will probably never top the list because of the Dave Stewartness of it. There's something a tiny bit off-putting about how deeply involved he was and how little of the music she did herself, although he obviously deserves credit for getting it to what it is. I'm also different from everyone else as far as I can see because The Other Side Of The Mirror is my favourite album and has been forever! I've put IYD and RAL as a tie because I feel there are similarities between the way they are written and the general feel of the album. Ideally I'd put Enchanted (particularly Disc 3!) as my favourite album because I think it's GREAT!

1. TOSOTM
2. Rock A Little/IYD (I think they are actually quite similar in many ways...)
3. TISL
4. Bella Donna
5. The Wild Heart
6. Street Angel

[Hartbreakkid]

" Stevie has not had a popular Top 40 hit since Rooms On Fire - over 20 yrs ago in 1989"

I would give her credit for Planets of the Universe being #1 on the dance charts.

[tabruns]

Those aren't the same as the Top 40, which is the Hot 100 singles chart. A #1 dance hit is still a heck of an accomplishment, but to be fair, those are different charts so you can't count them the same.

I think Stevie's singles successes in her later years have been quite good. She just isn't going to get another Hot 100 hit now that she's part of an older generation of rock stars. Even Elvis was faded out. Even though she wasn't having Hot 100 hits any more she still is having Adult Contemporary and Dance/Club hits, which are still hits:
"Everyday" #17 AC
"Sorcerer" #21 AC
"Planets of the Universe" #1 Dance
"Stand Back" #2 Dance
"Secret Love" #20 AC

[Macfanforever]

The co-workers at work had enough of IYD.I have to give them a break this week.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

The co-workers at work had enough of IYD.I have to give them a break this week.

Do you have to suffer through they're favorite music or are they at your mercy musicly at all times?

[chiliD]

I finally tried listening to IYD per the promo disc tracking order. It's ok..don't think that opening with "Moonlight" makes it any better than opening with "Secret Love".

Still can't just listen to the songs individually...when I listen, I play the whole thing "back to front, front to back".

Originally Posted by lvhlive!

I'm also different from everyone else as far as I can see because The Other Side Of The Mirror is my favourite album and has been forever!

To paraphrase the Dixie Chicks: "There's your trouble".

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by vivfox

Do you have to suffer through they're favorite music or are they at your mercy musicly at all times?

Yea .The new tunes from today .Plus rap and hiphop..And show are wearing in on me and I starting to like them except for rap..In the other dept they got hard rock which I call noise amd my co-worker calls it mindless.Hey Adele is on alot now.I do like her.Today I have country tunes playing.Hahaha If Stevie comes out with a all rap hiphop tune with a hop rap/hiphop artist.I might enjoy it.and she might enjoy being up on the top of the Billboard mainstream charts for once.

[Newzchspy]

[QUOTE=chiliD;993003]I finally tried listening to IYD per the promo disc tracking order. It's ok..don't think that opening with "Moonlight" makes it any better than opening with "Secret Love".

Still can't just listen to the songs individually...when I listen, I play the whole thing "back to front, front to back".



Could'nt do that with the vinyl of the old days