The Best way for her to support In Your Dreams

[UnitingNations]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Perhaps she's tapped the touring market out. I don't think she can really pull off the "sheds" anymore either (corporate amphitheaters which seat between 15,000-20,000). I'm guessing there is some bickering going on between parties (managers, promotors, booking agents, etc) as to what type of venues Stevie can realistically play these days, especially considering she just hit most major markets a month ago with Rod Stewart.

There's also a huge bias with singers and songwriters against the sheds. Some really really really hate lining up their touring schedule that looks something like this ... after spending most of their careers playing places with names that 'meant' something - and were memorable.

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This is part of the reason you've seen singers and songwriters outside of Stevie Nicks who are more than capable of filling large venues play some "off color" places. Last year, Keith Urban, who could sell out any arena he pretty much wants, took a step back and played smaller venues and state fairs.

The state fair circuit, while once laughable and seen as very 'c-list', is now a popular promotional circuit.

She would be smart to do a round of shows in August at state fairs. Sure, she can't charge $125 a ticket at these things - but she'll be able to bring in the crowds. Right now, that's what's important.

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by UnitingNations

There's also a huge bias with singers and songwriters against the sheds. Some really really really hate lining up their touring schedule that looks something like this ... after spending most of their careers playing places with names that 'meant' something - and were memorable.

Verizon Wireless Amphitheater
Verizon Wireless Music Center
Verizon Wireless Amphitheater
Call 1-800-ASK-GARY Pavilion
Jiffy Lube Live
Verizon Wireless Amphitheater


This is part of the reason you've seen singers and songwriters outside of Stevie Nicks who are more than capable of filling large venues play some "off color" places. Last year, Keith Urban, who could sell out any arena he pretty much wants, took a step back and played smaller venues and state fairs.

The state fair circuit, while once laughable and seen as very 'c-list', is now a popular promotional circuit.

She would be smart to do a round of shows in August at state fairs. Sure, she can't charge $125 a ticket at these things - but she'll be able to bring in the crowds. Right now, that's what's important.

I would love to see her do a fair circuit,Got the Big E. in Mass Durham Fair here in CT.

[UnitingNations]

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

I would love to see her do a fair circuit,Got the Big E. in Mass Durham Fair here in CT.

The Big E would be good media exposure.

[StandbackStevie]

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

Stevie .Please come to the Oakdale theatre.here in lovely Wallingford CT.I can personally give you a tour of Wallingford .which is my home town for all of my life which is almost 50 years.You know where Wallingford is,You were here in 1975 at the Trod Nossel recording studio,Ok back to the topic.She was always have had a low profile on promoting her works.Not like Madonna and Lady Gaga has done.She's just happy with us the fans that are close to her supporting her music for the last 36 plus years.

I agree MacFan She gets the support from her fans and she can tour I hope it will happen who knows she might tour over seas first and then here next summer. Who knows I hope she will tour here this summer or fall. Oakdale thearte would be an awesome place for her.

[MacMan]

Originally Posted by StandbackStevie

The artist doesn't make much on the cd's today like they used too cause no one is really selling a huge amount of cd's anymore.

That's absolutely right.. Would you believe that Adele is the one and only person in this calendar year in the USA to shift more than 1 million albums? True... sad as that may be... half way through the year and only one artist.. that's kind of stunning actually.

I think HejiraNYC nailed it though... If you don't have to work as hard as the small theatre circuit, why would you. Yes it would be great for the fans and I'm sure a certain segment of artists enjoy that close connection... But if you are looking for the bigger bang spending your nights in theatres probably won't do it...

I think a mixture in different areas of the country/world of small and midsized venues could work if they could figure that out... Not all small venues and not all mid to large venues...

[MacMan]

Bob Lefsetz of the Lefsetz Letter had a few things to say about Stevie and her new album...

Stevie Nicks’s Album

She should have made a deal with Spanx!

What do we know about Stevie Nicks? She took Klonopin and got fat. If Jennifer Hudson can do a deal with Weight Watchers and only enhance her career, why can't Ms. Nicks do the same? Show she's one of the girls. Dealing with aging as opposed to trying to be younger and younger. She's got to evidence she's a member of her audience, those who buy her music.

But I would have given this album away.

That would have been the deal. Spanx pays Stevie a couple of million and does this big campaign wherein if you buy some Spanx, you get a CD...maybe even a digital download too! With live acoustic tracks!

Not that it has to be Spanx. But when Stevie Nicks makes her best album in decades it's a crime that no one will hear it. Not a crime against humanity, but against her career. The more people who hear your music, the bigger your tribe, the more people want to see you live, the more money you make. Assuming you live in the twenty first century and realize it's about total revenue, not what you make on records.

Don't watch the video. You'd think it's still the eighties. If any project called out for a fan video contest, it's this. With people having dressed like Stevie forever, with articles saying her old style is still influencing fashion today, she should have gotten her fan base energized to win a chance to appear on stage with her, maybe one person in every market. And it's young people who truly embrace YouTube, this was a way to skew young at no cost.

And the album I'm referring to has eight tracks at most. There's so much filler on the thirteen cut "In Your Dreams" you want to take it off before it's done. The filler ain't bad, but it's boring, and no one wants to be bored today.

But the winners truly win.

You've got to listen to "New Orleans".

Check out "For What It's Worth" (not the Buffalo Springfield song).

But you'll immediately be enraptured by "Secret Love". It's the opener, and like that critic on Amazon, she does sound like a baby, and the lyrics are too impressionistic and unfinished, but the track has got an amazing FEEL!

Hell, I would have released a four song EP. Isn't it about leaving people wanting more? And if they really do need more, release another EP months later.

This album is over an hour long. "Rumours" wasn't close, and there were THREE songwriters. There's no excuse for "In Your Dreams" to be this long.

But I can't stop listening to the winners.

Because they make me feel good.

And isn't that the point of music?

And you can criticize me all day long. But you're missing the point. It's not about impressing everybody, it's only about impressing THOSE THAT CARE!

All that scorched earth publicity, it reached too many people who could care less. The project was owned by the media instead of the fans. Play to the fans and they'll spread the word. Like I am. I haven't liked anything Stevie has done this much since "Bella Donna". What, is she waiting for radio to play a track and MTV to air the video? Who was in charge of this project? Does he still use a dial-up connection?

"New Orleans" barely sounds like Fleetwood Mac. It's connected to the oeuvre of that group the way your cousin is related to you. You can see the thread, but they're different. "New Orleans" is so intimate without being derivative of what Nicks has done previously that you not only feel good listening, you want to tell your buds all about it. If you ever spent a Saturday afternoon home alone, with a vinyl record spinning as your mind drifts, you'll like this.

And a musicologist could explain why "Secret Love" is so infectious. From the very first note, you're enraptured. Taken away. Your feet tap, your head does a figure 8, you've got to play it again and again and AGAIN!

I'm not gonna point out the losers.

But I am gonna say if Stevie Nicks stopped playing to the stars and put one foot in front of another here on Earth, made eye contact with those who truly care, she could get one hell of a victory lap, one that might even last.

"New Orleans": http://bit.ly/mcZ8K8

"Secret Love": http://bit.ly/iaC9WF

Official "Secret Love" video: http://bit.ly/kTqPW3

And for a special treat, the original 1980 demo for "Secret Love", the basics are there, but Dave Stewart truly makes the new version magical: http://bit.ly/c1v8T

"For What It's Worth": http://bit.ly/iwhuWh

P.S. "Rumours" is 39:58 long. "In Your Dreams" is 1:04:39 long.

[SapphireSister]

Originally Posted by MacMan

Bob Lefsetz of the Lefsetz Letter had a few things to say about Stevie and her new album...

Stevie Nicks’s Album

She should have made a deal with Spanx!

What do we know about Stevie Nicks? She took Klonopin and got fat. If Jennifer Hudson can do a deal with Weight Watchers and only enhance her career, why can't Ms. Nicks do the same? Show she's one of the girls. Dealing with aging as opposed to trying to be younger and younger. She's got to evidence she's a member of her audience, those who buy her music.

But I would have given this album away.

That would have been the deal. Spanx pays Stevie a couple of million and does this big campaign wherein if you buy some Spanx, you get a CD...maybe even a digital download too! With live acoustic tracks!

Not that it has to be Spanx. But when Stevie Nicks makes her best album in decades it's a crime that no one will hear it. Not a crime against humanity, but against her career. The more people who hear your music, the bigger your tribe, the more people want to see you live, the more money you make. Assuming you live in the twenty first century and realize it's about total revenue, not what you make on records.

Don't watch the video. You'd think it's still the eighties. If any project called out for a fan video contest, it's this. With people having dressed like Stevie forever, with articles saying her old style is still influencing fashion today, she should have gotten her fan base energized to win a chance to appear on stage with her, maybe one person in every market. And it's young people who truly embrace YouTube, this was a way to skew young at no cost.

And the album I'm referring to has eight tracks at most. There's so much filler on the thirteen cut "In Your Dreams" you want to take it off before it's done. The filler ain't bad, but it's boring, and no one wants to be bored today.

But the winners truly win.

You've got to listen to "New Orleans".

Check out "For What It's Worth" (not the Buffalo Springfield song).

But you'll immediately be enraptured by "Secret Love". It's the opener, and like that critic on Amazon, she does sound like a baby, and the lyrics are too impressionistic and unfinished, but the track has got an amazing FEEL!

Hell, I would have released a four song EP. Isn't it about leaving people wanting more? And if they really do need more, release another EP months later.

This album is over an hour long. "Rumours" wasn't close, and there were THREE songwriters. There's no excuse for "In Your Dreams" to be this long.

But I can't stop listening to the winners.

Because they make me feel good.

And isn't that the point of music?

And you can criticize me all day long. But you're missing the point. It's not about impressing everybody, it's only about impressing THOSE THAT CARE!

All that scorched earth publicity, it reached too many people who could care less. The project was owned by the media instead of the fans. Play to the fans and they'll spread the word. Like I am. I haven't liked anything Stevie has done this much since "Bella Donna". What, is she waiting for radio to play a track and MTV to air the video? Who was in charge of this project? Does he still use a dial-up connection?

"New Orleans" barely sounds like Fleetwood Mac. It's connected to the oeuvre of that group the way your cousin is related to you. You can see the thread, but they're different. "New Orleans" is so intimate without being derivative of what Nicks has done previously that you not only feel good listening, you want to tell your buds all about it. If you ever spent a Saturday afternoon home alone, with a vinyl record spinning as your mind drifts, you'll like this.

And a musicologist could explain why "Secret Love" is so infectious. From the very first note, you're enraptured. Taken away. Your feet tap, your head does a figure 8, you've got to play it again and again and AGAIN!

I'm not gonna point out the losers.

But I am gonna say if Stevie Nicks stopped playing to the stars and put one foot in front of another here on Earth, made eye contact with those who truly care, she could get one hell of a victory lap, one that might even last.

"New Orleans": http://bit.ly/mcZ8K8

"Secret Love": http://bit.ly/iaC9WF

Official "Secret Love" video: http://bit.ly/kTqPW3

And for a special treat, the original 1980 demo for "Secret Love", the basics are there, but Dave Stewart truly makes the new version magical: http://bit.ly/c1v8T

"For What It's Worth": http://bit.ly/iwhuWh

P.S. "Rumours" is 39:58 long. "In Your Dreams" is 1:04:39 long.

Wow, just wow! I keep thinking about everything that was said here since I read it, especiall the part about her being totally disconneted from her fans/reality. It really got me thinking I need to get out of my total chiffonhead state of mind and at least start to be little objective when it comes to Stevie and her choices as of late. I mean come on Stevie, we're not asking forever from you...

[tabruns]

I'm not impressed. This is one guy's opinion and from what I can tell he doesn't have any particular insight....especially not in claiming that this should have just been a 4 song EP with the 4 songs that he liked! News flash: Although I love "Secret Love" there are a lot of people who would never pick it as one of the best 4 on the album. In fact, the 1 track that nearly everyone seems to love, "Moonlight", and I'm talking people on here as well as just regular people that I've gotten the album for, is apparently one of the "losers" in this guy's opinion.

[UnitingNations]

The Spanx idea is simply brilliant.