Stevie #6 Billboard Debut

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by tabruns

Anything top 10 would be amazing. Keep in mind that she hasn't had an album out in 10 years and she's 63 in a field where youth is king.

Indeed. Looks like she's going to hopefully make #6, which for a 62 year old woman who hasn't recorded any new material in a decade, isn't anything to sneeze at! Trouble In Shangri La debuted at #5, so the fact In Your Dreams will debut at #6 shows she's hasn't diminished. Just think of it this way, besides Trouble In Shangri La, she hasn't had an album peak in the single digits since 1983. Rock A Little peaked at #12, Other Side Of The Mirror at #10, Street Angel at #45. We all think of Rock A Little and Other Side Of The Mirror as classics... yet In Your Dreams is set to chart twice as high as either of those albums. We should all be proud Stevie still has this much presence after all these years!

[tabruns]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Indeed. Looks like she's going to hopefully make #6, which for a 62 year old woman who hasn't recorded any new material in a decade, isn't anything to sneeze at! Trouble In Shangri La debuted at #5, so the fact In Your Dreams will debut at #6 shows she's hasn't diminished. Just think of it this way, besides Trouble In Shangri La, she hasn't had an album peak in the single digits since 1983. Rock A Little peaked at #12, Other Side Of The Mirror at #10, Street Angel at #45. We all think of Rock A Little and Other Side Of The Mirror as classics... yet In Your Dreams is set to chart twice as high as either of those albums. We should all be proud Stevie still has this much presence after all these years!

Yes. Although in terms of *quality* I definitely think she should be debuting at #2 or #3 (or even #1).

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by tabruns

Yes. Although in terms of *quality* I definitely think she should be debuting at #2 or #3 (or even #1).

I don't know if I'd go that far, but the fact Jennifer Lopez will debut higher than Stevie is particularly dismaying to me.

[Hawkeye]

I feel like her first week sales will be much less then TISL, but I think it will drop off slower. Especially considering that any TV promotion will be done long after the first week. Really if she were to put her eggs heavily in any one basket, I would maybe make sure I was in PERFECT health for American Idol and give a REALLY good performance of a song from In Your Dreams. She will never play a song to a bigger audience the rest of the year. I really hope that she is actually on the show and she better not sing F***ing Landslie or anything not on IYD for that matter. She'll be back in the top 10 in 2-3 weeks.

[tabruns]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

I feel like her first week sales will be much less then TISL, but I think it will drop off slower. Especially considering that any TV promotion will be done long after the first week. Really if she were to put her eggs heavily in any one basket, I would maybe make sure I was in PERFECT health for American Idol and give a REALLY good performance of a song from In Your Dreams. She will never play a song to a bigger audience the rest of the year. I really hope that she is actually on the show and she better not sing F***ing Landslie or anything not on IYD for that matter. She'll be back in the top 10 in 2-3 weeks.

She may not have a choice. Doesn't the show tell the artist what they want them to sing?

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

I don't know if I'd go that far, but the fact Jennifer Lopez will debut higher than Stevie is particularly dismaying to me.

Originally Posted by tabruns

She may not have a choice. Doesn't the show tell the artist what they want them to sing?

well of I was her or her management I would not do the show if they didnt let me sing a new song.

Well now that I think about, even if she did Landslide and they at least MENTION her new album, sales would be helped so it wouldnt be worth not performing at all but still.

[tabruns]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

well of I was her or her management I would not do the show if they didnt let me sing a new song.

Well now that I think about, even if she did Landslide and they at least MENTION her new album, sales would be helped so it wouldnt be worth not performing at all but still.

I agree, I think she'd be WAY better off doing a song that's actually on In Your Dreams. I'm just saying that its possible that its the show's call, and in that case, I suppose her management would have to say that at least she's getting some visibility.

[mikephxaz]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Indeed. Looks like she's going to hopefully make #6, which for a 62 year old woman who hasn't recorded any new material in a decade, isn't anything to sneeze at! Trouble In Shangri La debuted at #5, so the fact In Your Dreams will debut at #6 shows she's hasn't diminished. Just think of it this way, besides Trouble In Shangri La, she hasn't had an album peak in the single digits since 1983. Rock A Little peaked at #12, Other Side Of The Mirror at #10, Street Angel at #45. We all think of Rock A Little and Other Side Of The Mirror as classics... yet In Your Dreams is set to chart twice as high as either of those albums. We should all be proud Stevie still has this much presence after all these years!

Thanks for the clarification...it puts it in perspective...good for Stevie!!

[darklinensuit]

Of course it's silly to play What-if games, but I can't help thinking that appearances on the Today show & elsewhere last week could have helped her tie or beat the TISL debut (in term of ranking, not sales, of course) if only her health had held up. Too bad.

- Jake

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by tabruns

I agree, I think she'd be WAY better off doing a song that's actually on In Your Dreams. I'm just saying that its possible that its the show's call, and in that case, I suppose her management would have to say that at least she's getting some visibility.

Secret Love is not going to get people to buy her album. Something uptempo like In Your Dreams or Ghosts or Gone. She needs to do something else from her solo career and quit promoting Fleetwood Mac. She single handly got Fleetwood Mac Rumours to chart again. Had she championed Leather and Lace or Edge of Seventeen like she has Rhiannon or Landslide, they would of been gold already.

[Dodfather]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Secret Love is not going to get people to buy her album. Something uptempo like In Your Dreams or Ghosts or Gone.

So you say. Some people may really like Secret Love and want to get the album. Just because you might not buy it after only hearing that track, do not presume to speak for others. How can you keep doing this, and what right do you have to do it time and time again?

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Secret Love is not going to get people to buy her album. Something uptempo like In Your Dreams or Ghosts or Gone. She needs to do something else from her solo career and quit promoting Fleetwood Mac. She single handly got Fleetwood Mac Rumours to chart again. Had she championed Leather and Lace or Edge of Seventeen like she has Rhiannon or Landslide, they would of been gold already.

How did she do this?

[goyourownway]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Secret Love is not going to get people to buy her album. Something uptempo like In Your Dreams or Ghosts or Gone. She needs to do something else from her solo career and quit promoting Fleetwood Mac. She single handly got Fleetwood Mac Rumours to chart again. Had she championed Leather and Lace or Edge of Seventeen like she has Rhiannon or Landslide, they would of been gold already.

Uh, I'm pretty sure a little show called "Glee" had something to do with this too. Seriously, unravel the gossimer from around your eyes so you can see with a little more clarity.

[LikeAWillow]

Originally Posted by goyourownway

Uh, I'm pretty sure a little show called "Glee" had something to do with this too. Seriously, unravel the gossimer from around your eyes so you can see with a little more clarity.

Who cultivated the relationship with Ryan Murphy that led to the creation of a Rumours based episode?

[TrueFaith77]

I think the point about the single is figuring out what would have the widest possible appeal and provide the widest exposure. I see the logic behind "In Your Dreams" as that kind of track moreso than "Secret Love"--which of course does not account for which song is better but does account for what audience might be alienated by choosing IYD over SL.

But also the simple fact is that older artists do not get the promotion nor the buzz that younger artists (have) generate(ed for them). Example: I defy anyone to name a finer work of pop(art) in the 00s than the Pet Shop Boys 2009 Yes album, but that got 0 radio play in ENGLAND much less the US. And they are a national treasure in England. And the album was pure radio-ready bliss from beginning to penultimate track (the final track was a MAGNFICENT but not a radio-type song).

I think I agree with those who have said that almost any track from IYD could play well on the radio (in that sense, this really is Stevie's Rumours)--and many invite innovative music video concepts (though not directed by Dave Stewart, lordhelpusall). However, that won't happen: I'm not sure if it's because the artist doesn't have youth appeal or because of the industry's arbitrary--self-congratulatory--promotional dictates (Plant-and-Krauss is not about art but is about pure commercial calcuation, while Stevie-and-Dave is, ultimately, genuinely, about art).