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Rumour0323 · #**136** 05-05-2011, 10:44 PM

Thrown Down...anyone? anyone?

She wrote it for SYW, she confirms it was written about the time during The Dance.

"He fell for her again, she watched it happen."

Lindsey: Who are you talking to?

Stevie: I'm talking to you!

Or the interview before the dance when a reporter asked if they were "back together" and Lindsey said something to the effect of,not yet, or you never know. To which she replied the now infamous "Over my dead body."

Followed by: "He is my First Love, my forever love, but we can never be together."

Followed by: "Joe Walsh is the love of my life." Which I believe she recanted a few days ago, so hang on kids.

Lindsey just told a radio DJ that he and Stevie have "turned a corner, and are closer that they have been in 30 years."

So hang on to your hats kids, it's going to be a bumpy ride!

CastAwayDreamer · #**137** 05-05-2011, 10:52 PM

And now you're getting me all hopeful, Rumour0323.

"He is my love. My first love, and my love for all time."

Sigh.

Amlyn · #**138** 05-05-2011, 10:53 PM

Maybe it's time to start a Shipper 101 class. Many many things we all have to share.

Crystal_Elle · #**139** 05-05-2011, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Amlyn

Maybe it's time to start a Shipper 101 class. Many many things we all have to share.

Sign me up.. I'm out of the shipper closet. So I guess I should own it. haha

CreepingDeath · #**140** 05-05-2011, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by crylove77

I haven't been on here in years and didn't post much when I was here, but I've been around the boards for years, and with this new album coming out decided to kind of get back in the swing of things. So I guess I'm gonna just jump right into the deep end on this thread.

So......

I think without a doubt this song is about LB. And I'll tell you why. Now, I'm sure some of the "old timers" around here have heard this story, but it's been pretty "underground" for some years now. This story came in parts from Chris Nicks and Glen Parrish. I'm not saying anything in the story is fact, only that it came from reliable sources at reliable times. So here it is, as I was told.

First off, Stevie was not just on Klonopin, she was taking a a lot of other pills, drinking heavily, smoking a lot of weed, etc. Basically just self medicating all the time. This was also around the time Stevie was carrying around those realistic looking baby dolls acting like they were real. There's pics of her in airports walking with those "babies". Anyway, she was just in a really bad place mentally, as she has said. Glen said once she locked herself in her room for 3 days and he literally had to knock down the door to get in and she hadn't showered or eaten in days, just a mess. Lori and Jess were a wreck during this time, they just didn't know how to help her and she wouldn't listen to anyone. Apparently, Lori called LB first and asked him to come try to talk to her, that they just didn't know what to do anymore. At first LB said no, that he just couldn't go down that road with her again, it was too much. He had "caught her when she was falling" so many times at that point, and he just couldn't understand what was happening to her. So he said no to Lori. Then Jess called and just broke down on the phone begging for his help. So LB flew to Phoenix and Glen picked him up at the airport. They went back to the house and when he saw Stevie she was holding/rocking that doll, had not been taking care of herself, etc., and LB broke down. Stevie got angry when she saw him and basically started blaming him for everything. Glen said LB begged her to come with him to get help and she refused. She was screaming at him, hitting him, blaming him for everything and Glen said LB just stood there and took it (as he usually does when it comes to Stevie, according to Chris). Chris and Glen have both said that LB is a "saint" at times with her. So the whole thing went on for 2 days, LB begging her to get help, she refusing. Finally, she said she would go if LB would stay with her through the initial detox. At first LB said no, he couldn't watch her go through that, but finally said he would stay with her when he realized she would go no other way. So LB arranged and paid for a private plane with a doctor, nurse and his own shrink to fly down to Phoenix and fly back with them to CA to some extremely exclusive rehab. Apparently, LB paid an exorbitant amount of money for the privilege of staying with her, basically a bribe. Jess was so torn up he didn't visit at all, couldn't bear to see her that way. Chris said they all thought she was going to die. This is when her hair turned grey and she had terrible leg and stomach cramps and couldn't sleep. Lindsey did things for her that she would not allow the nurses to do, help her bathe, use the bathroom, things like that. She wanted and tried to leave the detox multiple times, but LB literally held her down to stop her from leaving. She also had severe shakes, almost like seizures, and he held her during those too. After the bad detox was over and the rehab started, he was involved with everything and came to multiple therapy sessions with her. Chris and Glen have both said that LB was the sole reason she got better, that his love and support made her able to cope with it all. And she came to depend on him a great deal after that. (What you did was, You saved my life, I won't forget it)

Love Is is tied into all this as well. At the end of the rehab, Stevie wanted to start fresh with him in a romantic relationship but LB was hesitant. Not only had they been down that road numerous times and it had never worked long term, but he had serious problems of his own at that time. He was seeing a shrink himself and had developed a serious alcohol dependency. This was around the time he got that DUI. He was also still on again/off again with Cheri (You said, even if I left my girlfriend, picked up my stuff, loaded up my car, came down to your house, with good intentions). But during Stevie's detox and rehab, he put his own problems on hold to take care of her. So she wanted him, he said no. Not never, just not "now". He wanted to get his own head on straight before they went down that road again. She was devastated, but understood. And as is popular opinion, the relationship did resume just prior to The Dance.

Making "Twisted" was kind of a test to see if she still had it and that whole story about how The Dance came to be, LB asking Mick to play drums and it morphed, etc.? That's partly true, but the whole Dance thing was LB's brainchild for Stevie, he didn't want to see her go out that way, with everyone remembering how she was in the early 90's. Of course, it helped his career too, but the whole idea was for Stevie.

So, there it is, as I heard it. If you think it's too much private info and should be removed, go for it. I mean no harm, but I get so irritated sometimes when people act like LB is some kind of beast that could never do anything good for her besides help with her music.

It's great to see you around here again.

I've heard similar accounts from posters that are no longer around. BN.net used to be filled with them. Damn Facebook for splitting everyone apart.

PM sometime, girl.

Rumour0323 · #**141** 05-05-2011, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CastAwayDreamer

And now you're getting me all hopeful, Rumour0323.

"He is my love. My first love, and my love for all time."

Sigh.

LOL but she's so damn unreliable.

Tell me this. He sells the mansion that he and the wife hand picked the bricks, and designed the damn doorknobs for. A property he has owned for 30 years. Stevie buys a five bedroom house, then decides she can't live there because it's "really a house for a family". And this was what 3 years ago.

COME ON!!!! Co-inky-dink? I don't think so!!!

Also the really good stuff, is in the ad libs at the end of the songs on her solo tours. You can always tell if she is pissed at Lindsey or not by how the baby, baby, babys go.

mezzoforte · #**142** 05-05-2011, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by crylove77

Interesting idea. But it would have to be a covert operation,

half the **** I've heard, I would never feel comfortable posting. Too personal, IMO.

I'd have to call you a tease if I weren't so grateful for the earlier story you already shared

Covert operations can be handled pretty nicely through PMs...*hint*

CastAwayDreamer · #**143** 05-05-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumour0323

LOL but she's so damn unreliable.

Tell me this. He sells the mansion that he and the wife hand picked the bricks, and designed the damn doorknobs for. A property he has owned for 30 years. Stevie buys a five bedroom house, then decides she can't live there because it's "really a house for a family". And this was what 3 years ago.

COME ON!!!! Co-inky-dink? I don't think so!!!

Also the really good stuff, is in the ad libs at the end of the songs on her solo tours. You can always tell if she is pissed at Lindsey or not by how the baby, baby, babys go.

Why can't I find anything I'm searching for tonight?

Remember how she said there were rooms for all the children in her life. She was so excited about it, you could tell. And then I think he ticked her off about something and suddenly she didn't want to live there anymore.

STILL I am a fool? Yeah...

CreepingDeath · #**144** 05-05-2011, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by crylove77

Oh my God, it's Kimberly! I haven't talked to you in ages! How you been?

FB was definitely the death sentence for a lot of great forums.

I miss the BN board like crazy sometimes.

I'm OK. Not great, but hey, at least I have a new Stevie CD to pick apart.

I'm serious, though We should talk via PM. I think we both have info that's better left not out in the open.

CreepingDeath · #**145** 05-05-2011, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by crylove77

Sounds good. It's getting late on the East Coast, that's stuff's too "heavy" to get into late night.

I'll check in with you this weekend.

It's a date.

bombaysaffires · #**146** 05-05-2011, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CreepingDeath

I'm OK. Not great, but hey, at least I have a new Stevie CD to pick apart.

I'm serious, though We should talk via PM. I think we both have info that's better left not out in the open.

well now that's just not faaaaaiiiiiirrrrr... wah

Rumour0323 · #**147** 05-05-2011, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CastAwayDreamer

Why can't I find anything I'm searching for tonight?

Remember how she said there were rooms for all the children in her life. She was so excited about it, you could tell. And then I think he ticked her off about something and suddenly she didn't want to live there anymore.

STILL I am a fool? Yeah...

Yes she did say that.

But now she's turned it into a recording studio so good for her. A recording studio and a
circa 1920's Parisian party hangout. But now I read the other day she said she and Lindsey just might go off to Wales and do a BN record. What is with this chick and the moors? She's is Kathy in Wuthering Heights, I swear it. ( I think she got a little to caught up in the Royal Wedding this weekend.)

CastAwayDreamer · #**148** 05-05-2011, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumour0323

Yes she did say that.

But now she's turned it into a recording studio so good for her. A recording studio and a
circa 1920's Parisian party hangout. But now I read the other day she said she and Lindsey just might go off to Wales and do a BN record. What is with this chick and the moors? She's is Kathy in Wuthering Heights, I swear it. ( I think she got a little to caught up in the Royal Wedding this weekend.)

LOL! I know, right? Wales. Just....wow. He was an Englishman, ya know.

Amlyn · #**149** 05-05-2011, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by crylove77

Interesting idea. But it would have to be a covert operation,

half the **** I've heard, I would never feel comfortable posting. Too personal, IMO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CreepingDeath

I'm OK. Not great, but hey, at least I have a new Stevie CD to pick apart.

I'm serious, though We should talk via PM. I think we both have info that's better left not out in the open.

Of course now you've really piqued my interest. I've read A LOT of what is out there, but it seems as that is only scratching the surface.

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Originally Posted by mezzoforte

Covert operations can be handled pretty nicely through PMs...*hint*

Works for me. Although you and i can meet in the city sometime again and really have that conversation that we almost started last night.

mezzoforte · #**150** 05-05-2011, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Amlyn

Of course now you've really piqued my interest. I've read A LOT of what is out there, but it seems as that is only scratching the surface.

Works for me. Although you and i can meet in the city sometime again and really have that conversation that we almost started last night.

Haha yes! Anytime, girl.