Let's Break It Down: IYD Songs About Lindsey

TrueFaith77 · #1 05-05-2011, 06:33 PM

Classifications:

Confirmed - Stevie has confirmed that this song is about Lindsey
Beyond Reasonable Doubt - You could take your case to court
Possibly - There are elements that make it seem like it could be about Lindsey but not sure
Probably Not - Can't find any evidence that it's about Lindsey or other confirmed facts point away from Lindsey
Definitely Not - Topic confirmed by Stevie and it's not about Lindsey

1. Secret Love - Definitely Not
2. For What It's Worth - Probably Not (pre-The Dance)) / Possibly ("Got to be a part of a great romance.") Amlyn suggests that the timeframe may be Enchanted!
3. In Your Dreams - Probably Not (pre-Say You Will) / Possibly (the holding hand imagery)
4. Wide Sargasso Sea - Possibly
5. New Orleans - Definitely Not
6. Moonlight (A Vampire's Dream) - Confirmed
7. Annabel Lee - Possibly: Stevie is Annabel Lee and Lindsey is Poe!!!
8. Soldier's Angel - Beyond Reasonable Doubt ("first love" and he's on the song)
9. Everybody Loves You - Confirmed
10. Ghosts Are Gone - Beyond Reasonable Doubt ("ghost through a fog" pace Angel, Sweet Girl -- per WildHearted)
11. You May Be The One - Beyond Reasonable Doubt
12. Italian Summer - Probably Not (he's married!) / Possibly (the guitar makes me wonder)
13. Cheaper Than Free - Probably Not

Total: 5-9 out of 14

Artemis · #2 05-05-2011, 06:39 PM

Apart from Moonlight and Everybody Loves You, I'm 100% convinced You May Be The One is about Lindsey; there's just too much pointing towards him in the lyrics for me to let that one go.

I wish Buckingham Nicks still updated, the speculation section never fails to link almost every song to Lindsey without fail. But that's why it's so brilliant.

WildHearted · #3 05-05-2011, 06:59 PM

I think you could make a really really strong case about Ghosts Are Gone.

I can't make sense of the choruses really, but all of the verses... yes. Not to mention the 'Like a ghost through the fog' line, coming back again from Angel and Sweet Girl..

PenguinHead · #4 05-05-2011, 07:04 PM

Why does it matter? I don't get.

mezzoforte · #5 05-05-2011, 07:11 PM

My guesses:

1. Secret Love - Definitely Not
2. For What It's Worth - Very possible
3. In Your Dreams- Probably Not--she claims it was someone around during TISL. (TP? WW?)
4. Wide Sargasso Sea - Probably not. I'm leaning towards an englishman--most likely Mick.
5. New Orleans - Definitely Not
6. Moonlight (A Vampire's Dream) - Confirmed
7. Annabel Lee - Probably not--she loved Poe before she met Lindsey, I think. Probably just a poem she fell in love/a doll, possibly Robin on "she was a child and I was a child"--that shared bond of youth.
8. Soldier's Angel - Probably not--I think it's really just for the soldiers.
9. Everybody Loves You - Confirmed
10. Ghosts Are Gone - Very possibly
11. You May Be The One - Almost definitely
12. Italian Summer - Probably not
13. Cheaper Than Free - Definitely not

michelej1 · #6 05-05-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

Classifications:

1. Secret Love - Definitely Not
2. For What It's Worth - Probably Not (pre-The Dance))
3. In Your Dreams - Probably Not (pre-Say You Will) / Possibly (the holding hand imagery)
4. Wide Sargasso Sea - Possibly
5. New Orleans - Definitely Not
6. Moonlight (A Vampire's Dream) - Confirmed
7. Annabel Lee - Possibly: Stevie is Annabel Lee and Lindsey is Poe!!!
8. Soldier's Angel - Beyond Reasonable Doubt ("first love" and he's on the song)
9. Everybody Loves You - Confirmed
10. Ghosts Are Gone - Beyond Reasonable Doubt ("ghost through a fog" pace Angel, Sweet Girl -- per WildHearted)
11. You May Be The One - Beyond Reasonable Doubt
12. Italian Summer - Probably Not (he's married!) / Possibly (the guitar makes me wonder)
13. Cheaper Than Free - Probably Not

Total: 5-9 out of 14

I agree with you about everything except Italian Summer. I wish there was a category for stronger than possibly, but weaker than Beyond a Reasonable Doubt.

I will go with, More Probable Than Not, which is the civil burden of proof

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Michele

michelej1 · #7 05-05-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted

I think you could make a really really strong case about Ghosts Are Gone.

I can't make sense of the choruses really, but all of the verses... yes. Not to mention the 'Like a ghost through the fog' line, coming back again from Angel and Sweet Girl..

I never thought that about GAG when we were listening to the stream, but then when she described it about finally closing the door on a relationship, I thought of it differently.

Michele

bombaysaffires · #8 05-05-2011, 07:24 PM

I tend to think Ghosts are Gone is about Joe for some reason. All her downgrading of that relationship lately, and her re-assessing dramatic relationships and all.

You May Be The One does make me wonder about Mick... the part about the islands... and words flying across the sea... he does live in Hawaii and they did have that spat over Silver Springs at one point... but again, who knows!

Wild Sargasso Sea is just her writing about fictional characters as she does.. it's just a song about what literally happens in the story of the book.

michelej1 · #9 05-05-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Why does it matter? I don't get.

It doesn't matter. But in the great scheme of things nothing in FM discussions matters. That's why Jonas Salk doesn't hang around this site much.

The fact is, to some people, being able to put a story to a song makes it resonate more. The feeling and emotion somehow enhance the audio experience. That's why Broadway tunes may sound hokey . . . until after you've seen them come alive in the context of the play.

If they know it's about a father who lost a child, it changes the way some people hear HAEWAFY. Strange but true.

If knowing things make some people more interested in the music, there's nothing that needs to be understood. That's just how people feel.

Michele

CADreaming · #10 05-05-2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

I never thought that about GAG when we were listening to the stream, but then when she described it about finally closing the door on a relationship, I thought of it differently.

Michele

How funny is it the acronym for that song is GAG, not that it has any bearing on the quality of the song itself....

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Originally Posted by michelej1

It doesn't matter. But in the great scheme of things nothing in FM discussions matters. That's why Jonas Salk doesn't hang around this site much.

That was priceless!!

Quote:

The fact is, to some people, being able to put a story to a song makes it resonate more. The feeling and emotion somehow enhance the audio experience. That's why Broadway tunes may sound hokey . . . until after you've seen them come alive in the context of the play.

If they know it's about a father who lost a child, it changes the way some people hear HAEWAFY. Strange but true.

If knowing things make some people more interested in the music, there's nothing that needs to be understood. That's just how people feel.

Michele

Excellent explanation, Michele.

michelej1 · #11 05-05-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

You May Be The One does make me wonder about Mick... the part about the islands... and words flying across the sea... he does live in Hawaii and they did have that spat over Silver Springs at one point... but again, who knows!

And Hawaii is one thing that made me think about Lindsey, because they were all in Hawaii while he was still in California and they had a fight. We were told that that the fight was about SYW, but this song made me think it was more personal and that SYW was just the tip of an iceberg.

Michele

bombaysaffires · #12 05-05-2011, 07:36 PM

[QUOTE=michelej1;978937]It doesn't matter. But in the great scheme of things nothing in FM discussions matters. That's why Jonas Salk doesn't hang around this site much.

Love this.

I have a pretty high-stress job and indulging in a little "mindless" speculation about FM members is a great way to de-stress. I sure as hell don't live my life around it..but it's a fun way to spend a few minutes and lighten things up.

WildHearted · #13 05-05-2011, 07:41 PM

"I used to think that you were an angel" and "Says I'm so afraid... " pretty much solidify, in my mind, the argument that YMBTO is LB. Not to mention the "You say it's taken years of regret and pain.."

So basically that whole stanza.

CastAwayDreamer · #14 05-05-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

It doesn't matter. But in the great scheme of things nothing in FM discussions matters. That's why Jonas Salk doesn't hang around this site much.

The fact is, to some people, being able to put a story to a song makes it resonate more. The feeling and emotion somehow enhance the audio experience. That's why Broadway tunes may sound hokey . . . until after you've seen them come alive in the context of the play.

If they know it's about a father who lost a child, it changes the way some people hear HAEWAFY. Strange but true.

If knowing things make some people more interested in the music, there's nothing that needs to be understood. That's just how people feel.

Michele

This, exactly.

daniellaaarisen · #15 05-05-2011, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mezzoforte

My guesses:

1. Secret Love - Definitely Not
2. For What It's Worth - Very possible
3. In Your Dreams- Probably Not--she claims it was someone around during TISL. (TP? WW?)
4. Wide Sargasso Sea - Probably not. I'm leaning towards an englishman--most likely Mick.
5. New Orleans - Definitely Not
6. Moonlight (A Vampire's Dream) - Confirmed
7. Annabel Lee - Probably not--she loved Poe before she met Lindsey, I think. Probably just a poem she fell in love/a doll, possibly Robin on "she was a child and I was a child"--that shared bond of youth.
8. Soldier's Angel - Probably not--I think it's really just for the soldiers.
9. Everybody Loves You - Confirmed
10. Ghosts Are Gone - Very possibly
11. You May Be The One - Almost definitely
12. Italian Summer - Probably not
13. Cheaper Than Free - Definitely not

Twins. I agree with you 110% on each song. "For What It's Worth" and "You May Be The One" are near-definite in my mind.