Jonathon teaches others to LIE and CHEAT!!

OK-LANDSLIDE · #1 05-28-2003, 05:09 AM

CHECK OUT THIS SITE I FOUND ON INTERNET ABOUT J. TODD. WHAT A JERK AND HE JUST KEEPS ON TAKING AND TEACHES OTHERS HOW TO DO IT.

http://www.namm.com/education/2003/descriptions.html

Article about Todd is found about half way down on this page!!! This guy is unreal. Who hired him Warner Brothers or the Band?

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How to Command Free Press and Gain New Customers Rapidly for the Retail Music Merchant
Jonathan Todd
California A
Jonathan Todd, President of SabreMark Inc., shows retailers how to effectively command attention and sales through free press and promotional techniques designed for retail music stores. Attendees leave with a written press plan covering their particular store/chain size and needs. Jonathan will evaluate and critique sample plans from attendees right from the “podium” suggest changes, give new ideas and help participants finalize their new promotional plan. Attendees can also interface with Jonathan Todd and his staff during the following two days. Ask Jonathan directly for a consulting appointment at the Show.

I believe this seminar was done in mid January!! Oh well he has to live with himself not us. OK-LANDSLIDE

seeknpeace · #2 05-28-2003, 10:59 AM

He has his fingers into several ventures. This man did this for the money, he stroked Mick I am sure, but, he is seems to be a con man...Mick, Mick, Mick....when will you stop this crap?

gypsysara · #3 05-28-2003, 11:18 AM

Oooohhh... can I please line up for a "consulting appointment"?? Maybe then he can realize Im "sexually oriented" which would give his crummy BBS grounds to TRULY "ban" me. LOL!

Gypsy-Rhiannon · #4 05-28-2003, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by gypsysara
Oooohhh... can I please line up for a "consulting appointment"?? Maybe then he can realize Im "sexually oriented" which would give his crummy BBS grounds to TRULY "ban" me. LOL!

LMAO

flyfirefly · #5 05-31-2003, 01:35 AM

I still don't think the band knows what's going on. Fleetwood Mac tends to love their fans---right? I'm sure they're hearing the good things, as any business would report.

It might be a while before FM really knows what all went down.

Gypsy-Rhiannon · #6 05-31-2003, 03:54 AM

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Originally posted by flyfirefly
I still don't think the band knows what's going on. Fleetwood Mac tends to love their fans---right? I'm sure they're hearing the good things, as any business would report.

It might be a while before FM really knows what all went down.

I can imagine Todd telling whoever he reports to that everything is hunky dory and that it is just a small handful of fans making trouble

Pip

flyfirefly · #7 05-31-2003, 09:27 AM

Exactly!

I mean...beyond the internet, where do any of us stand? We've heard about the Dixie Chicks thing, so have they heard about us--or rather, the Fleetwood Mac Fan Club er...controversy?

[insert sarcasm here]

Oh, and especially you, Pip. Our #1 troublemaker

[/end sarcasm]

Gypsy-Rhiannon · #8 05-31-2003, 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by flyfirefly
Exactly!

I mean...beyond the internet, where do any of us stand? We've heard about the Dixie Chicks thing, so have they heard about us--or rather, the Fleetwood Mac Fan Club er...controversy?

[insert sarcasm here]

Oh, and especially you, Pip. Our #1 troublemaker

[/end sarcasm]

Well #1 is better than #2!

Pip

seeknpeace · #9 05-31-2003, 09:55 AM

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I mean...beyond the internet, where do any of us stand? We've heard about the Dixie Chicks thing, so have they heard about us--or rather, the Fleetwood Mac Fan Club er...controversy?

Just hold on and watch....you might be surprised what is coming.

flyfirefly · #10 05-31-2003, 10:11 AM

Well, that would be great! I'd love to see some publicity.

I just hope whatever happens makes the Fleetwood Mac Fan Club look as bad as it possibly can, and leaves the band alone.

...because the whole point of hiring someone to do a job is so they can do it and do it well, right? So, if multi-millionaire celebrities can be in bankruptcy at the height of their popularity because their management is putting money elsewhere, it seems this issue of Fan Club negativity could be totally escaping their eyes.

seeknpeace · #11 05-31-2003, 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by flyfirefly
Well, that would be great! I'd love to see some publicity.

I just hope whatever happens makes the Fleetwood Mac Fan Club look as bad as it possibly can, and leaves the band alone.

...because the whole point of hiring someone to do a job is so they can do it and do it well, right? So, if multi-millionaire celebrities can be in bankruptcy at the height of their popularity because their management is putting money elsewhere, it seems this issue of Fan Club negativity could be totally escaping their eyes.

while I understand what you are saying and it would not make me happy for the band to be brought into this, and my petition does not include them, you have to remember that if you go into Macys and the sales clerk is rude to you and slaps you, not only do you sue her, you sue Macys as well, as they put her out there as their rep. That is the same thing that falls to FM. The best thing that they could do is fire their mgment for keeping them in the dark and come clean at this point if they are in the dark. And, trust me, their management ALL know what is going on. That is an absolute.

flyfirefly · #12 05-31-2003, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by seeknpeace
And, trust me, their management ALL know what is going on. That is an absolute.

Elaborate, please? Just so I know what you're talking about, because I honestly don't.

seeknpeace · #13 05-31-2003, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by flyfirefly
Elaborate, please? Just so I know what you're talking about, because I honestly don't.

Each manager was sent everything that they needed to know about all that has gone down. And, by more than one fan. They all know. IF they are keeping it from the band to protect them, or etc, they are setting themselves up for it all to bite them in the ass. There is absolutely no excuse at the stage.

flyfirefly · #14 05-31-2003, 10:25 AM

Well I'm not going to sit here and detail the reasons why the management may also not have any idea---it just seems to me, being at the low end of the totem pole of the Recording Industry that there are many people who something like this might've gone through, or not gone through, or got mixed up with.

So where is 60 Minutes and it's investigative reporting? Let's get some professionals in the field!

seeknpeace · #15 05-31-2003, 12:00 PM

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Well I'm not going to sit here and detail the reasons why the management may also not have any idea---it just seems to me, being at the low end of the totem pole of the Recording Industry that there are many people who something like this might've gone through, or not gone through, or got mixed up with.

No, trust me...Management knows. That is for certain.