FWIW question...

[Bryan]

Sooner or later this 'shipper' business has GOT to end! There are many many people in her life and many more who have been and gone.Enough with the Lindsey assumptions,it could be about anyone,a man who is not remotely a public figure/musician/etc. Same goes for other songs

[StreetAngel86]

Originally Posted by Bryan

Sooner or later this 'shipper' business has GOT to end! There are many many people in her life and many more who have been and gone.Enough with the Lindsey assumptions,it could be about anyone,a man who is not remotely a public figure/musician/etc. Same goes for other songs

wait, are you implying with your comment that ALL of Stevie's songs are NOT about Lindsey?????? ... GTFO ....


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[Kena]

Originally Posted by Bryan

Sooner or later this 'shipper' business has GOT to end! There are many many people in her life and many more who have been and gone.Enough with the Lindsey assumptions,it could be about anyone,a man who is not remotely a public figure/musician/etc. Same goes for other songs

First off I must admit that I'm a recovering shipper so this may be me being in denial about my shipper addiction but I don't see how this is shipper business really... I mean, noone is saying they think this song means that she and he will be together one day and they are still hooking up. Folks are saying she may be referring to something she had with him in the past. I think that's fair speculation. Besides, even if they are over and done with, Stevie's Thrown Down was her dragging up some shipper dirt... yeah that was in 2003 or 2004 but if she can do it why can't we?

There is a reason why Rumours still sells and part of the draw is the personal drama that was going on with the band members. It was real stuff and most people relate to real stuff because we all got it. I remember the first few times I heard Second Hand News and I just kept wondering who Lindsey wanted to lay down in the tall grass and do his stuff with. Well who better to do "stuff" with than little miss Stevie? For some of us, that's the reason we got hooked on FM. The band members have all been open about the songs on that Album being about each other...which makes it hard to get out of ones mind that maybe future songs are about the band members...if that makes any sense at all?

Just fyi, I don't think this song is about Lindsey. You are right about there being many people in Stevie's life and many who have been and gone. I think there are many many many many men who have come (no pun - oh why not) and gone. It'd be a lot easier if Stevie would write a "tell all" book and give us that big ol' long list of her magic mens!

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Kena

It'd be a lot easier if Stevie would write a "tell all" book and give us that big ol' long list of her magic mens!

Yes, if she doesn't have time, we don't need the whole book. We just need a list (with maybe a time period for each man). We can work with that.

Michele

[CADreaming]

Honestly, if Stevie would shut the hell up about Lindsey then shipperness or the speculation thereof would die.

[michelej1]

So, no I don't think FWIW fits LB at all, but I hear hints of him in Italian Summer and You May Be the One and she has already said that she sang Everybody Loves You to Lindsey, while Dave could sing it to Annie.

Oh and the other line I think is about Lindsey on the album is the angry words going back and forth between them while on the islands (which I took to be Hawaii). She says she couldn't believe what he was saying. I think this was the SYW fight, but I don't think it was just about track sequencing.

Michele

[CADreaming]

^roflol!!!

[hestergail]

Originally Posted by Kena

First off I must admit that I'm a recovering shipper so this may be me being in denial about my shipper addiction but I don't see how this is shipper business really... I mean, noone is saying they think this song means that she and he will be together one day and they are still hooking up. Folks are saying she may be referring to something she had with him in the past. I think that's fair speculation. Besides, even if they are over and done with, Stevie's Thrown Down was her dragging up some shipper dirt... yeah that was in 2003 or 2004 but if she can do it why can't we?

There is a reason why Rumours still sells and part of the draw is the personal drama that was going on with the band members. It was real stuff and most people relate to real stuff because we all got it. I remember the first few times I heard Second Hand News and I just kept wondering who Lindsey wanted to lay down in the tall grass and do his stuff with. Well who better to do "stuff" with than little miss Stevie? For some of us, that's the reason we got hooked on FM. The band members have all been open about the songs on that Album being about each other...which makes it hard to get out of ones mind that maybe future songs are about the band members...if that makes any sense at all?

Just fyi, I don't think this song is about Lindsey. You are right about there being many people in Stevie's life and many who have been and gone. I think there are many many many many men who have come (no pun - oh why not) and gone. It'd be a lot easier if Stevie would write a "tell all" book and give us that big ol' long list of her magic mens!

I agree with this, I see this song as a modern day gypsy kinda thing. I don't think it's far fetched to say it's about her and Lindsey's starting out. I realize she's not exactly conforted by him but maybe in the begining... he was a source of comfort. It was essentially them against the world in those days. They just had each other.

[Artemis]

I've gotta go with the general consensus and agree that FWIW isn't about Lindsey.

You May Be The One, however... I'm definitely starting to think that song is about him.

[TinyDancer]

Originally Posted by Kena

First off I must admit that I'm a recovering shipper so this may be me being in denial about my shipper addiction but I don't see how this is shipper business really... I mean, noone is saying they think this song means that she and he will be together one day and they are still hooking up. Folks are saying she may be referring to something she had with him in the past. I think that's fair speculation. Besides, even if they are over and done with, Stevie's Thrown Down was her dragging up some shipper dirt... yeah that was in 2003 or 2004 but if she can do it why can't we?

There is a reason why Rumours still sells and part of the draw is the personal drama that was going on with the band members. It was real stuff and most people relate to real stuff because we all got it. I remember the first few times I heard Second Hand News and I just kept wondering who Lindsey wanted to lay down in the tall grass and do his stuff with. Well who better to do "stuff" with than little miss Stevie? For some of us, that's the reason we got hooked on FM. The band members have all been open about the songs on that Album being about each other...which makes it hard to get out of ones mind that maybe future songs are about the band members...if that makes any sense at all?

Just fyi, I don't think this song is about Lindsey. You are right about there being many people in Stevie's life and many who have been and gone. I think there are many many many many men who have come (no pun - oh why not) and gone. It'd be a lot easier if Stevie would write a "tell all" book and give us that big ol' long list of her magic mens!

I feel ya on the recovering shipper thing! Even if she hadn't said the comments about someone from 93-94 who stayed with her, I would still have to say the song is not about LB. The, "You saved my life" line does not give me a LB vibe AT ALL. I can't see her saying something like this about him.

That being said if she comes back in a year and says the song is about him I am not going to be mad. Ughhh old habits die hard

[saintvox]

I don't think it's about him.

It doesn't have the same sound as other songs she's done that are about him to me.

[michelej1]

Yes, there are so many things that point away from Lindsey in my eyes: I think if she was writing about the trip to Southern California she'd be saying that she is the one who scooped him up, threw him in the car and took him to Los Angeles, not the other way around.

Also, she talks about no one knowing they were together. Even though we have discussed the fact that SnL have never admitted being a couple while in Fritz, I don't think she'd be writing about having a secret affair with Lindsey during that time period. According to Javier, everyone knew.

It's the secrecy lyrics that make me think it's about Tom Petty. Michele

[mikephxaz]

I'm not a hopeless romantic about Stevie and Lindsay and I dont keep up with all the torrid details of their time together but my first listen to FWIW- maybe , just maybe, she was singing about their time in San Fran and his request to Mick that Stevie be included....if Lindsey had not "taken her along for the ride" with him...her life would have been different...maybe I am being a bit romantic..lol...I know about Stevie's quote about 93, 94 but......carlos or mike may be a better fit

[darklinensuit]

I don't have a clue to the secret person at this point, but Mike Campbell does sound pretty logical.

I'll get flamed for this, but I will say that, while I like the song, it sounds like it would fit on Street Angel pretty well - musically, lyrically, vocally. Sort of a cross between "Inspiration" and "Rose Garden".

- Jake

[CADreaming]

In For What It's Worth, Nicks sings about a "forbidden romance that saved my life". It's not about Mick Fleetwood, she says. Rather, it refers to someone who stood by her in 1995, before the release of Fleetwood Mac's live album The Dance and after her stint in rehab for Klonopin...

"So you walk out into the world and you are a different person. And we were going on a tour and I was terrified. Terrified. And this person just sort of hung with me through that tour and buffered me from the world. And he did save my life."

The reason I think the Lindsey card can be played is because I heard the same story mentioned by another Ledgie, about her rehab experience - that her Dad had called Lindsey to help because no one else was reaching her. Debbie (catdancer) said when she talked to Lindsey in the early '90's, he was very concerned about Stevie and wanted her to call him. Someone else mentioned how upset he was when he did the two FM shows in Dec. '90 and she didn't know some of his relatives backstage because she was so out of it.

Also, according to the time frame Stevie gave in the quote, the tour she is referring to is The Dance which was Stevie's first tour after her '95 rehab stay. I'm pretty sure Tom Petty, Mike Campbell or Carlos Rios weren't on that tour. Just judging from the rehearsal videos and Stevie and Lindsey's body language and interaction, they were not as stilted towards one another as you might expect for being newly reacquainted after a period of long animosity. They seemed very comfortable and he was being obviously protective of her. Fans here have said when they went backstage at a show, everyone else was gone but Stevie and Lindsey came in holding hands and sat down on a sofa and continued to hold hands, prompting the fans to assume they were back together. Stevie and Lindsey denied it, but it was apparent to the fans they were close again.

It could be forbidden because they were supposed to be with other people. Lindsey was breaking up with Cheri during this time period.

"For What It's Worth" has been called a "mirror" to "Landslide"... it does sound like she comes full-circle in the song.

At any rate, whoever it's about - I'm thankful to that person. And, I think it's one of the most beautiful and touching songs she's ever written.