Anticlamactic?

[blinker12]

Again, not trying to be depressing - I'm just surprised we're not seeing more, well, stuff. I don't think age is the issue. Stevie has been 35+ since Wild Heart (!), and she has always gotten big pre-release pushes from the label on her albums since then.

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

Maybe they want the album to be a grower instead of being a big hit, then slowly falling away?

That's a good thought. It would be nice if this album reversed the trajectory of Stevie's last few albums, which opened with a bang and then faded.

Perhaps I am still stuck in the 1990s mentality of big first weeks, as others have suggested. Honestly, I don't follow any artist as closely as Mac/Stevie, so I haven't been tuned into how the publicity machine works since 2001-2003!

[DallasDude]

Like TV, radio has been fragmented into niche formats, and the "new" music stations now skew considerably lower in age than they once did. Gone are the days when DJ's controlled (or had a say) in the music programming. That is all done by corporate now, and often dispersed to all it's stations across the country.

[Josh2003]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

Maybe they want the album to be a grower instead of being a big hit, then slowly falling away?

I prefer growers to showers, anyway.

[skuncles]

Stevie isn't Lady Gaga. Gaga's album comes out the end of May and THAT is getting the press and promotion you'd expect for a relavent artist. I've said this many many times, it's not 1981 anymore. Outside of this board and her diehards no one knows nor cares that Stevie has an album coming out. People who bought "Bella Donna" or "The Wild Heart" back in the day (who weren't her core fans) did so because of the MTV and radio coverage, but as they got older they moved on to other things.
My older sister bought "Bella Donna" back in '81 (I eventually stole it from her) but when I mentioned the other day that Stevie's new album comes out next week she said "Why is she still making records? Her voice was shot years ago"
In another example, after I saw Heart last year, one of the comments I heard after the show was "Wow, they are really good considering they haven't done anything in like 30 years! Have they done anything since "What About Love"?"
So as a fan you kind of have to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. Stevie's doing this album for her and for us, she's not going to win over a new legion of fans at this point nor does she intend to.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by Christopher

IDK, I think they are being smart by keeping a tight lid on this album. We have 2 full songs, and the trailer The listening parties/album showcase's for TISL, produced most of the leaked advance promo copies, that ended up in the hands of fans and on the web & ebay early. And that cost Stevie dearly, cause that was at the height of file sharing & Napster. Stevie & WB probably easily lost over a hundred thousand copies that could have been sold, instead of downloaded. So now, with Stevie's base and celebrity considerably smaller than it was 10 years ago, they cannot afford to have this one leak and lose any more precious sales.
Also I suspect we'll see a review for IYD in the next RS.

It's these very things- her age, her lack of visibility, her lack of recent output- which should compel WB to exploit her new music through every outlet possible. You don't get people to buy your album by keeping it a secret; you need to push, push, push! I mean, would you readily buy an album by someone you are only casually familiar with after hearing just one song? With so much working against her, she needs to be aggressive about getting her music out there.

[wheart]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I agree... in the interest of trying to keep this album out of the hands of bootleggers, Stevie/WB seem to have sabotaged the success of IYD. Rolling Stone should have already published a review. There should be listening parties. There should be more tracks being released to radio. There should be more interviews. I mean, for crikeys sake, there have been zero print ads, zero internet ads, minimal social media interaction and just one television appearance (that didn't showcase any new material). The world at large still does not know about this album. But for all we know, this could just be par for the course for "legacy artists" these days. Given Dave Stewart's involvement and his creative, out-of-the-box approach to... just about everything, I was hoping the launch of IYD would be extraordinary. Instead it's the same ol', same ol'...

and the tour with Rod Stewart certaintly didn't help the cause. Instead of using the month prior to IYS's release to do an effective promotional campaign. she was on the road, singing songs she wrote 30 years ago.Sure, she was on stage every night but she was essentially playing to a Rod Stewart audience who could probably care less that she's releasing a new CD. The whole idea of this tour just felt wrong from the very beginning. Now that it's over, it's seems even more so. An ill timed, ill advised mistake

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by skuncles

Stevie isn't Lady Gaga. Gaga's album comes out the end of May and THAT is getting the press and promotion you'd expect for a relavent artist. I've said this many many times, it's not 1981 anymore. Outside of this board and her diehards no one knows nor cares that Stevie has an album coming out. People who bought "Bella Donna" or "The Wild Heart" back in the day (who weren't her core fans) did so because of the MTV and radio coverage, but as they got older they moved on to other things.
My older sister bought "Bella Donna" back in '81 (I eventually stole it from her) but when I mentioned the other day that Stevie's new album comes out next week she said "Why is she still making records? Her voice was shot years ago"
In another example, after I saw Heart last year, one of the comments I heard after the show was "Wow, they are really good considering they haven't done anything in like 30 years! Have they done anything since "What About Love"?"
So as a fan you kind of have to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. Stevie's doing this album for her and for us, she's not going to win over a new legion of fans at this point nor does she intend to.

But you're missing the point- nobody said that they expect IYD to sell like Bella Donna. They're just saying that the promotional efforts have been weak and tentative, especially given the fact that the release date is just one week away.

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by blinker12

Again, not trying to be depressing - I'm just surprised we're not seeing more, well, stuff. I don't think age is the issue. Stevie has been 35+ since Wild Heart (!), and she has always gotten big pre-release pushes from the label on her albums since then.

Back during Wild Heart when Stevie was one of the biggest female recording artists around, 35 years old wasn't considered a liability, that was decades before the teen to early twenty-something recording artist explosion that is now the new norm & where your considered over the hill once your in your 30's And Street Angel did not receive hardly any push from her label prior to its release. Nobody, including a few die hard fans even knew it existed, until she hit the road. That was the quietest unveiling of ANY Stevie record to date, including her best of releases. IYD has been getting far more push from the label & Stevie, probably not as good as we'd like, but it's still something. Why they never released the Secret Love video by now is a real head scratcher, plus it's arguable that they may have released the sizzle reel 2 weeks to early

Edit: nevermind. Seems like they are on the ball about the Secret Love video afterall http://www.spinner.com/2011/04/26/st...ideo-premiere/ perhap's it was WB's secret "pre-week" teaser all along.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by wheart

and the tour with Rod Stewart certaintly didn't help the cause. Instead of using the month prior to IYS's release to do an effective promotional campaign. she was on the road, singing songs she wrote 30 years ago.Sure, she was on stage every night but she was essentially playing to a Rod Stewart audience who could probably care less that she's releasing a new CD. The whole idea of this tour just felt wrong from the very beginning. Now that it's over, it's seems even more so. An ill timed, ill advised mistake

Well, a tour is one thing. But to tour before an album's release and not mention one word of it to the audience is just pathetic. At the very least, every concert stop should have been festooned with IYD paraphernalia and promo items, e.g., a postcard with a URL link to download "Secret Love." Instead, all I saw were a few rather ugly, overpriced T-shirts. The H&S tour must have played to at least 200,000 people; if even just 10% of Rod's audiences were interested in the new album, that's quite a substantial amount of album sales.

[Spoinny]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Well, a tour is one thing. But to tour before an album's release and not mention one word of it to the audience is just pathetic. At the very least, every concert stop should have been festooned with IYD paraphernalia and promo items, e.g., a postcard with a URL link to download "Secret Love." Instead, all I saw were a few rather ugly, overpriced T-shirts. The H&S tour must have played to at least 200,000 people; if even just 10% of Rod's audiences were interested in the new album, that's quite a substantial amount of album sales.

record companies don't invest in older artists, they don't feel the need to. They figure their core group of fans will buy the CD, so they don't need to push it too much.

[wheart]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Well, a tour is one thing. But to tour before an album's release and not mention one word of it to the audience is just pathetic. At the very least, every concert stop should have been festooned with IYD paraphernalia and promo items, e.g., a postcard with a URL link to download "Secret Love." Instead, all I saw were a few rather ugly, overpriced T-shirts. The H&S tour must have played to at least 200,000 people; if even just 10% of Rod's audiences were interested in the new album, that's quite a substantial amount of album sales.

yup...many, many missed opportunities.

[Tango]

Definition: weak, useless

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No, I don't think it will be anticlimactic to us, the fans. I believe Stevie's excited to get this album to us and knows the anticipation is probably making at least a few of us crazy. I don't know how they have managed to keep this album from leaking out so far. While I don't think the album will be Stevie's "Rumours," I accept this album as Stevie's gift to her fans. She did this album because she finally wanted to.

I don't think it will be futile, fruitless, inept, inferior, vain, worthless, etc. I have been hoping for a new Stevie album. If I may quote Lindsey Buckingham (instead of the Rock A Little song), "I am waiting. I am waiting . . . oh yeah, oh yeah!"

[blinker12]

Speak of the devil...
We just got the Secret Love video, maybe things are picking up!

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by blinker12

I'm finding this final week leading up to the release of In Your Dreams oddly anticlimactic. Apart from a couple reviews in rather obscure publications, there's been little to no press about the album. I'm surprised because I remember the final week before both TISL and Say You Will being action-packed with interviews, song previews, TV appearances etc.

I'm not trying to be negative, or say that this portends poor sales for In Your Dreams. But I am puzzled. Anyone else?

Maybe it's just the calm before the storm.

I feel exactly the same way. I think the Australian Review tempered the excitement, especially when the reviewer said the album will not garner many new fans.

[Musicman408]

I just somewhat mentioned this to my roommate, but realized the reason it's all been anticlimactic this week is because it's almost finals week, and it's the end of the semester, and I feel SOOO overwhelmed with it all!!