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Old 04-21-2011, 12:00 PM
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It's stealing ..and I am surprised how many of her ""FANS" are willing to do this , knowing how she feels about it. i don't understand the whole gimme attitude
Well ty for clarifying I just assumed it was legal as long as we purchased the album. I guess in retrospect it was naive of me to think so. But I believe us die hard junkies are just itching to hear ASAP
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:02 PM
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It's stealing ..and I am surprised how many of her ""FANS" are willing to do this , knowing how she feels about it. i don't understand the whole gimme attitude
Yeah... I wonder how she feels about me purchasing four copies already beside the fact that I can hardly make both ends meet.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:08 PM
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Yeah... I wonder how she feels about me purchasing four copies already beside the fact that I can hardly make both ends meet.
I'm sure accountant loves the fact you bought 4.

Why do you need 4 copies?
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:10 PM
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I'm sure accountant loves the fact you bought 4.

Why do you need 4 copies?
One for me, one for my mom, and one for each of my best friends. Shower the people you love with Stevie goodies I say.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:14 PM
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One for me, one for my mom, and one for each of my best friends. Shower the people you love with Stevie goodies I say.
I admire this. So for people that buy mult copies like u and others why would Stevie care about an early peak? To me it is sort of like a BOGO Free deal.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:30 PM
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I will end up with muliple copies as well, have for all of the albums. Even though I'd had the promo of TISL for at least a month before it was released, I still went out first thing to pick the album up. I don't buy them just to have a bunch of copies though there is always a reason why I have so many.
Speaking only for TISL, I ended up with two promo copies and two commercially released versions. One I bought the day of release, the other was the selection of the month for Columbia House Record Club and I let them send it as well, that one has never been opened only because I have no reason to open it. I have an unopened copy of Street Angel as well (for that album I have 2 commercial copies, 1 promo copy and 1 import version).
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:31 PM
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It's stealing ..and I am surprised how many of her ""FANS" are willing to do this , knowing how she feels about it. i don't understand the whole gimme attitude
Because those fans have shelled out the $17-34 for the preorder and WB continually withdraws the money from their account on a whim before they shipped the product. Not to mention WB steals 40% of the revenue where Stevie only gets about 10% per album sold. Illegal pirating is not going anywhere, and despite the fact that record sales are down, tickets and merch are way up. The music industry as a whole is growing, but WB has iced Stevie's glass and filled it with their Kool-Aid. They have convinced her that the music industry is FAILING and filled her with fear, when actually the music industry is doing well, it is the fat cat record labels that are failing. With the current technology, artistd no longer need labels and it is time Stevie listened to the rain.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:34 PM
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It's stealing ..and I am surprised how many of her ""FANS" are willing to do this , knowing how she feels about it. i don't understand the whole gimme attitude
There is NOTHING wrong with a try-before-you-buy.Especially when you've pre-ordered.
I download illegally and always buy the albums I like on CD.I have eclectic taste and there is no way I'm buying hundreds of albums in one go.Only the best ones get purchased.And the artists I like.I'd never support the a$$hole artists that don't deserve it.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:36 PM
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I admire this. So for people that buy mult copies like u and others why would Stevie care about an early peak? To me it is sort of like a BOGO Free deal.
We all know that Stevie is disappointed by the album sales. I believe that if things were different, she wouldn't put out a new album every 10 years. Realizing that you are not the mega-giga-superstar you once were must hurt. I love her, and I love her music, so if I can help her feel better, like she did many times for me, I will. This is also the first time my mom showed some interest in Stevies music, and over the years I got so much beautiful music from my friends that it's just natural I bought a copy for them too.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:38 PM
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Because those fans have shelled out the $17-34 for the preorder and WB continually withdraws the money from their account on a whim before they shipped the product. Not to mention WB steals 40% of the revenue where Stevie only gets about 10% per album sold. Illegal pirating is not going anywhere, and despite the fact that record sales are down, tickets and merch are way up. The music industry as a whole is growing, but WB has iced Stevie's glass and filled it with their Kool-Aid. They have convinced her that the music industry is FAILING and filled her with fear, when actually the music industry is doing well, it is the fat cat record labels that are failing. With the current technology, artistd no longer need labels and it is time Stevie listened to the rain.
well that put's it all in to prospective , I won't feel guilty downloading the copy I found and listening to it .
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:42 PM
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well that put's it all in to prospective , I won't feel guilty downloading the copy I found and listening to it .
What copy?

And also I've been lurking in this Stevie forum for a while now, but been too lazy to actually log in, so I guess this also a hi.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:46 PM
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We all know that Stevie is disappointed by the album sales. I believe that if things were different, she wouldn't put out a new album every 10 years. Realizing that you are not the mega-giga-superstar you once were must hurt. I love her, and I love her music, so if I can help her feel better, like she did many times for me, I will. This is also the first time my mom showed some interest in Stevies music, and over the years I got so much beautiful music from my friends that it's just natural I bought a copy for them too.
If Stevie would record albums more frequently, her sales would likely be greater than they are for the one-off album every 7-10 years. As it is now, people forget she exists in between albums. She does herself a disservice by letting the fans forget.

I'm not saying she'd have a string of multi-platinum albums; but just making the point that if she actually released new material with any sort of reliable frequency, her sales would be greater since each album release would boost the sales of prior releases. More releases=more opportunities for additional sales of prior releases.

Stevie has been getting terrible advice! Whoever told her to stop making music because no one would buy it is a terrible person. Clearly, none of her musical peers followed this advice so I'm not sure why she fell for it so readily.
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It's stealing ..and I am surprised how many of her ""FANS" are willing to do this , knowing how she feels about it. i don't understand the whole gimme attitude
I totally agree.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:50 PM
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There is NOTHING wrong with a try-before-you-buy.Especially when you've pre-ordered.
I download illegally and always buy the albums I like on CD.I have eclectic taste and there is no way I'm buying hundreds of albums in one go.Only the best ones get purchased.And the artists I like.I'd never support the a$$hole artists that don't deserve it.
You can "try before you buy" really easily by listening to snippets on iTunes. I do that all the time. It doesn't require illegal downloading.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:52 PM
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If Stevie would record albums more frequently, her sales would likely be greater than they are for the one-off album every 7-10 years. As it is now, people forget she exists in between albums. She does herself a disservice by letting the fans forget.

I'm not saying she'd have a string of multi-platinum albums; but just making the point that if she actually released new material with any sort of reliable frequency, her sales would be greater since each album release would boost the sales of prior releases. More releases=more opportunities for additional sales of prior releases.

Stevie has been getting terrible advice! Whoever told her to stop making music because no one would buy it is a terrible person. Clearly, none of her musical peers followed this advice so I'm not sure why she fell for it so readily.
I honestly think she's terrified of flops.Her ego can't handle not being a huge deal.She clung to that TISL glory for a long time.If this one isn't the huge success she's hoping for I wouldn't be surprised if she stops doing solo albums
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