Florence Welch pays tribute to Stevie Nicks in the new rolling stone

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

When I first heard "Dog Days Are Over" it totally reminded me of old Jefferson Airplane. (which I never cared for) But, I respect that Florence and the Machine are trying to do something different in the music scene (well, sort of.).


Jamie

You are right! It really is Jefferson Airplane with a modern twist. I loved Jefferson Airplane. White Rabbit, Somebody to Love and Winds of Change remind me of Stevie. I always wished those were her songs.

[Bryan]

I like FW enough, but the fact that she's been riding the wave of the one album for 3 years is absolutely ridiculous.She hasn't proven herself yet imo.
Also,the fact that she's heard IYD already shows how 'in' with the industry she's become.
+Wtf was she doing at the Oscars? So out of place.Everyone of those industry brown-nosers can go s*ck a d*ck

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by Bryan

I like FW enough, but the fact that she's been riding the wave of the one album for 3 years is absolutely ridiculous.She hasn't proven herself yet imo.
Also,the fact that she's heard IYD already shows how 'in' with the industry she's become.
+Wtf was she doing at the Oscars? So out of place.Everyone of those industry brown-nosers can go s*ck a d*ck

LOL tell us how your really feel!

[Bryan]

If Stevie spent 3 years promoting Bella Donna? ha,she'd have been there 'til 1984 how silly that thought would be.
Says a LOT about nowadays vs. The 'good ol days',they a2tually had to WORK hard then

[mikephxaz]

Dog Days Are Over...is classic...of course anyone who has the sensibilities to write it would love Stevie

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by Bryan

If Stevie spent 3 years promoting Bella Donna? ha,she'd have been there 'til 1984 how silly that thought would be.
Says a LOT about nowadays vs. The 'good ol days',they a2tually had to WORK hard then

you know, your kind of right about that

from 1979 to 1989, she put out 8 albums with fleetwood mac or solo, she worked her ass off, she had to tour for that crap too.

[LikeAWillow]

Originally Posted by Bryan

If Stevie spent 3 years promoting Bella Donna? ha,she'd have been there 'til 1984 how silly that thought would be.
Says a LOT about nowadays vs. The 'good ol days',they a2tually had to WORK hard then

Totally unheard of for a band back then to take their time in crafting a record.

Oh. Wait. Fleetwood Mac.

[mezzoforte]

Originally Posted by Bryan

I like FW enough, but the fact that she's been riding the wave of the one album for 3 years is absolutely ridiculous.She hasn't proven herself yet imo.
Also,the fact that she's heard IYD already shows how 'in' with the industry she's become.
+Wtf was she doing at the Oscars? So out of place.Everyone of those industry brown-nosers can go s*ck a d*ck

First of all, no need to say that last bit about any artist. That's pretty crude, especially about a musician you claim to like well enough. I would hate to see what you have to say about the ones you really dislike...

And I'm not seeing how having heard IYD makes her some repulsive brown-noser. The fact that she was at the Oscars and in RS and able to comment on the musicians who have inspired her means that she's more of a presence in the music world than she was before. She's gotten attention for a number of reasons, but mainly for her talent. So yes, she's receiving more exposure. But why is that criminal? Should she be required to shun the music industry? Why would she want to? What purpose would that serve?
By all means, judge her if it becomes clear she's compromising her music and integrity for the industry. But until that happens, I really can't imagine what there is to complain about.

[Jondalar]

I just find it really funny that Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, Florence Welch.... haven't found new heroes like Sheryl Crow, Alanis Morrisette or Melissa Ethridge. I mean they are still using Stevie Nicks. She is still standing the test of time. I think it's major. She is being kept alive by these people and hopefully, when people hear this next album, she will even influence more people. I mean come on people. It's 2011. I can see how Stevie influenced Sheryl Crow because she is just a generation away, but we are talking a new crop of girls that should be building on Crow and Ethridge. It's sorta amazing.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by mezzoforte

First of all, no need to say that last bit about any artist. That's pretty crude, especially about a musician you claim to like well enough. I would hate to see what you have to say about the ones you really dislike...

And I'm not seeing how having heard IYD makes her some repulsive brown-noser. The fact that she was at the Oscars and in RS and able to comment on the musicians who have inspired her means that she's more of a presence in the music world than she was before. She's gotten attention for a number of reasons, but mainly for her talent. So yes, she's receiving more exposure. But why is that criminal? Should she be required to shun the music industry? Why would she want to? What purpose would that serve?
By all means, judge her if it becomes clear she's compromising her music and integrity for the industry. But until that happens, I really can't imagine what there is to complain about.

Lots actually. The new batch,especially the Brit girls are heavily marketed.The whole setup is paper thin.
Remember Amy Winehouse?. . .5 years since that infamous record.Truly chewed up and spat out.Will she finish that 3rd album? Will anyone care?
They're trying to put Ellie Goulding out there now in the States when she should really be in the studio.
They all know they're on borrowed time in the business so are milking it for all their ONE record's worth.By all means carry on ladies. . . .I won't be missing 'em.
In my honest opinion Florence has already blown it,so I feel perfectly entitled to express that.

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

I just find it really funny that Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, Florence Welch.... haven't found new heroes like Sheryl Crow, Alanis Morrisette or Melissa Ethridge. I mean they are still using Stevie Nicks. She is still standing the test of time. I think it's major. She is being kept alive by these people and hopefully, when people hear this next album, she will even influence more people. I mean come on people. It's 2011. I can see how Stevie influenced Sheryl Crow because she is just a generation away, but we are talking a new crop of girls that should be building on Crow and Ethridge. It's sorta amazing.

It just goes to prove how uniquely original and talented Stevie Nicks is. The new female rockers of the late 80's and 90's were extension's of the 60's & 70's female influence,: Grace Slick, Janis Joplin, Joni Mitchell, Tina Turner, Stevie Nicks, Patti Smith, The Runaways, Debbie Harry, Heart. Pat Benatar. All these ladies were completely unique and deeply talented, that everyone after has been borrowing bits and pieces. I'm not the least bit surprised that today's female artists are still looking back 2 or 3 generations still. I don't think that 10 to 15 year explosion of original female talent will ever be topped again. The references will continue and only grow deeper once Stevie has passed beyond this world. And female rockers/singers will continue to explore Stevie's flawed but undeniable huge impact & influence in varying degrees for decades to come.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by Bryan

Lots actually. The new batch,especially the Brit girls are heavily marketed.The whole setup is paper thin.
Remember Amy Winehouse?. . .5 years since that infamous record.Truly chewed up and spat out.Will she finish that 3rd album? Will anyone care?
They're trying to put Ellie Goulding out there now in the States when she should really be in the studio.
They all know they're on borrowed time in the business so are milking it for all their ONE record's worth.By all means carry on ladies. . . .I won't be missing 'em.
In my honest opinion Florence has already blown it,so I feel perfectly entitled to express that.

You know you are right again. Adele is now the next great import from Britain and I have heard that her album is not that special. I like her voice, but we have heard her songs before. She is being setup for grammies right now.

[tbaker3]

I think the brit artist are different because they still actually craft music. The reason they're not successful is because in the US we're so, "follow up right now." I swear Britney's next album is probably already written and planned out. I love the english bands. They work MUCH harder than our most popular artists.

And with Amy W... well after a song like Rehab, who DIDN'T see her going off the deep end. Adele is solid, and even if her time in the US is limited, I think she'll still thrive in her home market.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

You know you are right again. Adele is now the next great import from Britain and I have heard that her album is not that special. I like her voice, but we have heard her songs before. She is being setup for grammies right now.

Thank you. Yes indeed I forgot to mention her.
My goodness,that is truly outrageous.They've even plastered her on the cover of Rolling Stone I gather . . leaves me truly shocked at the stunts they'll pull to invent a lore around an artist

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

You know you are right again. Adele is now the next great import from Britain and I have heard that her album is not that special. I like her voice, but we have heard her songs before. She is being setup for grammies right now.

Adele is another example of influences that cannot be denied. She is refreshing in the current pop market, but thats not saying much. She borrows a little from Dusty, some Laura Nyro , and a bit of Carole King and some Stax Records. I wonder if her influences are organically intentional or she or her label/producers have done their homework to push her in that direction. Either way, Adele is definitely being groomed. Florence comes across as being a little more organically influenced than Adele, but others are right, Florence still has a lot to prove with her next outing. Time will tell.