Oprah Comment (Two Years Later . . .)

[michelej1]

Hey Dee,

Did you notice that when Oprah was doing the introductory voiceover for Stevie she said of Lindsey that the two "fell in love" two years after they met, when Stevie was 17?

Did Oprah's staff get their facts wrong?

Michele

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Hey Dee,

Did you notice that when Oprah was doing the introductory voiceover for Stevie she said of Lindsey that the two "fell in love" two years after they met, when Stevie was 17?

Did Oprah's staff get their facts wrong?

Michele

ROFLOL! Of course, I noticed! And... I don't think so!

Those wacky kids...

[WildHearted]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Hey Dee,

Did you notice that when Oprah was doing the introductory voiceover for Stevie she said of Lindsey that the two "fell in love" two years after they met, when Stevie was 17?

Did Oprah's staff get their facts wrong?

Michele

Stevie herself said in an interview not too long ago, "This is the man that I met and fell in love with when I was 17."

However, to me it sounded like Oprah was saying that Stevie met Lindsey when she was 17, and two years later they fell in love. Which actually still contradicts a few of the things they've said in the past about them not getting together until they left Fritz to go on their own... which tbh I've never really believed completely.

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

Stevie herself said in an interview not too long ago, "This is the man that I met and fell in love with when I was 17."

However, to me it sounded like Oprah was saying that Stevie met Lindsey when she was 17, and two years later they fell in love. Which actually still contradicts a few of the things they've said in the past about them not getting together until they left Fritz to go on their own... which tbh I've never really believed completely.

Well, there's no way that's true if she's living with him a la "Gypsy" (yes, I'm bringing that up again!) in a house in Los Gatos in 1969...

But, it does seem they've backed up the time frame a little more in recent years. I think Javier even said he didn't know why they kept saying they weren't together until Fritz broke up.

[michelej1]

Javier said they used to share a room during Fritz and were always backing each other up in band discussions (which is something they never did again ever).

But Stevie said that it was because they had to tell the Fritz guys that they were ditching them that they suddenly became romantic with each other -- for comfort.

It was always funny to me, because Stevie said Lindsey was offered a recording contract and the record company knew he wouldn't take it without her, so the record company only wanted the 2 of them and not the other guys and they had to break up with Fritz and I was thinking, "well, if she was only a friend, why wouldn't he accept a recording contract without her? Why didn't he say, 'I refuse to do it, without Javier!'"

Yes, she may have recently changed the time line, but I don't know if that's the truth finally coming out, or if it's just senility.

Michele

[WildHearted]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Javier said they used to share a room during Fritz and were always backing each other up in band discussions (which is something they never did again ever).

But Stevie said that it was because they had to tell the Fritz guys that they were ditching them that they suddenly became romantic with each other -- for comfort.

It was always funny to me, because Stevie said Lindsey was offered a recording contract and the record company knew he wouldn't take it without her, so the record company only wanted the 2 of them and not the other guys and they had to break up with Fritz and I was thinking, "well, if she was only a friend, why wouldn't he accept a recording contract without her? Why didn't he say, 'I refuse to do it, without Javier!'"

Yes, she may have recently changed the time line, but I don't know if that's the truth finally coming out, or if it's just senility.

Michele

I also recall Stevie saying that the reason they got romantic was because "It was just so cool" that they had gotten singled out and broken up the band....

And yeah, the comment about Lindsey not leaving Fritz without her totally doesn't make sense either. I thought the same thing.

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Javier said they used to share a room during Fritz and were always backing each other up in band discussions (which is something they never did again ever).

But Stevie said that it was because they had to tell the Fritz guys that they were ditching them that they suddenly became romantic with each other -- for comfort.

It was always funny to me, because Stevie said Lindsey was offered a recording contract and the record company knew he wouldn't take it without her, so the record company only wanted the 2 of them and not the other guys and they had to break up with Fritz and I was thinking, "well, if she was only a friend, why wouldn't he accept a recording contract without her? Why didn't he say, 'I refuse to do it, without Javier!'"

Yes, she may have recently changed the time line, but I don't know if that's the truth finally coming out, or if it's just senility.

Michele

Yeah, I hear ya...but why were they a-hem "shacking up"? I don't think she's lying about that because she was specific enough to say for that entire tour where their house was... unless it was just her house and he happened to be over there just hanging out, working on music with her, plotting ways they could undermine Javier's destiny and take over the music world as Buckingham Nicks...

Idk, it just makes more sense to me that they had a relationship or were in a relationship during the Fritz years at least. But, hell they can't even get the break up year right either! So...

[Tango]

I'll say this about the Oprah thing-- I personally thought it was a pretty lousy thing to say anything about "the boys of the band" and "hookers" on national TV on a show like Oprah's while the 2 women of the band were living the lives of sequestered nuns.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Tango

I'll say this about the Oprah thing-- I personally thought it was a pretty lousy thing to say anything about "the boys of the band" and "hookers" on national TV on a show like Oprah's while the 2 women of the band were living the lives of sequestered nuns.

Oh, she's insane, but on the other hand, the men might have been more embarassed if Stevie had said that THEY were cloistered, kept under heavy guard and never slept with a hooker or groupie. How are you going to look Mick Jagger in the eye, if you don't have that street cred?

Sorry for the double standard.

The funny thing is Stevie implied that she and Christine were together in a guarded room -- reading Louisa May Alcott, I imagine.

Other than Sausalito, I highly doubt that Stevie and Christine were keeping each other company in the evenings.

Michele

[Tango]

I guess time makes you bolder. Maybe that's how things started with the Fleetwood Mac "Rumours" generation. Later, at least one of the sisters was involved with Dennis Wilson (who had picked up a venereal disease from one of the Manson sisters); when you sleep with someone, you sleep with their history. I'm sure they all used protection. Even the hookers. ALL of them. Rock & Roll, baby. Kind of creepy: all of them.

[Kena]

I should probably double check the timeline of things before I post this ...but where Stevie and Linds "technically" single during the Fritz days? When did they break up with their others? Stevie said she went out with David Young for 5 years starting when? I remember reading somewhere that Lindsey was dating some girl that he was very serious about and that everyone assumed he would marry...then Stevie came along. I think Stevies timeline is off a bit because they were cheaterheads.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Kena

I think Stevies timeline is off a bit because they were cheaterheads.

That makes sense, but by the time Stevie told the story, it was over 5 years later when they started becoming famous. She and Lindsey were both with other people, but they were never married to those people and I don't think they ever even got to the point of living with the other people (at least Stevie says Lindsey never lived with anyone but his parents).

Are you still worried about protecting someone's feelings all that time later, especially when you were never even married to them and you were in your late teens and very early twenties, a time when monogamy isn't prized. I can see not wanting to hurt your old boyfriend or girlfriend right after you break up, but not 5 years later.

I don't think they've told the exact truth, but I really can't figure out what they're lying about. Unless they murdered someone back then and are covering their tracks!

Michele

[Spoinny]

Originally Posted by michelej1

That makes sense, but by the time Stevie told the story, it was over 5 years later when they started becoming famous. She and Lindsey were both with other people, but they were never married to those people and I don't think they ever even got to the point of living with the other people (at least Stevie says Lindsey never lived with anyone but his parents).

Are you still worried about protecting someone's feelings all that time later, especially when you were never even married to them and you were in your late teens and very early twenties, a time when monogamy isn't prized. I can see not wanting to hurt your old boyfriend or girlfriend right after you break up, but not 5 years later.

I don't think they've told the exact truth, but I really can't figure out what they're lying about. Unless they murdered someone back then and are covering their tracks!

Michele

Me and my friend have always joked over the past few years how Stevie's stories seem to change or get altered everytime she tells them! I wonder if it's a memory thing or a selective memory thing?

[jellyman10]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I don't think they've told the exact truth, but I really can't figure out what they're lying about. Unless they murdered someone back then and are covering their tracks!

I've always had a hunch that Stevie deceived her parents about what (who) she was doing and that she and LB agreed to shuffle dates around to match whatever she told them. And then, as time has gone on, her dad passed on, she gets older and the fibs get more tedious to keep up. So the truth starts to leak out but, as the saying goes, a really good liar needs a really good memory. So now, it's all a huge muddle, and even she can't remember what really happened when any more?

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by jellyman10

I've always had a hunch that Stevie deceived her parents about what (who) she was doing and that she and LB agreed to shuffle dates around to match whatever she told them. And then, as time has gone on, her dad passed on, she gets older and the fibs get more tedious to keep up. So the truth starts to leak out but, as the saying goes, a really good liar needs a really good memory. So now, it's all a huge muddle, and even she can't remember what really happened when any more?

Yeah, that's logical. There are some things my dad still didn't know decades after the fact. I took them to his grave!

Wouldn't have had any student debt at all, if I'd used the money he'd given me on TUITION instead of travel.

Michele