Enough Already - Page 2

gldstwmn · #16 04-07-2011, 12:17 PM

If she'd never performed Face The Promise I might never have heard Bob Seger's version which I love, love, love. Back in their heyday that song would have been a huge hit IMO.

Annabell Lee · #17 04-07-2011, 12:22 PM

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Me too.

But that other guy in Stevie's sizzle reel? The one standing by the stairs with the bloodshot eyes and tired expression? For some reason, I can't stop myself from pausing the clip and wondering what his story is.

Omg, i did the same thing ! He's got an interesting face, eyes, etc. He looks very " classical poet " to me. I am positive Stevie saw that also ! I'd like to know who he is !

KarmaContestant · #18 04-07-2011, 12:33 PM

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Omg, i did the same thing ! He's got an interesting face, eyes, etc. He looks very " classical poet " to me. I am positive Stevie saw that also ! I'd like to know who he is !

Yes - exactly!

Silver Springs · #19 04-07-2011, 01:03 PM

Plent of artists sing cover songs, because they can appreciate the greatness of said song. I don't know about anybody else, but I love to know about and be exposed to the kind of music that influences them. Lindsey, for example. His constant prattling about The Beach Boys have ignited a deep seated love for the band

I have everything they've recorded on vinyl now, thanks to him

equeen102289 · #20 04-07-2011, 01:22 PM

Why don't you just wait until you hear the new album before you start b*tching about who she's writing with? If the songs end up sounding great, I don't think it matters much who wrote them.

Yes, she has an amazing vault of material, but I'm honestly not too keen on hearing her current voice attempt "Christian," for instance. I like the fact that she's writing new songs, and if it took Dave Stewart to get them to a finished product, so be it.

markolas · #21 04-07-2011, 01:24 PM

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Does anyone agree with me or what????

Not really.

Stevie is primarily a lyric writer. She doesn't really play any instruments, nor does she have a great deal of musical knowledge (as she admitted recently, she only knows four chords or something like that). Frankly, she needs someone like Dave Stewart (or Sheryl Crow, or Lindsey Buckingham). An entire album of Stevie pounding on a keyboard and rambling is just not an appealing prospect to me.

Also, an awful lot of those demos/outtakes didn't make it onto her albums for a reason. Many others would be great, but only with some elbow grease (and perhaps even a co-writer!).

Stevie is the artist here, and she obviously loved working with Dave (and seriously, how can anyone not be a Eurythmics fan?) and loved what he did with her lyrics. When it comes down to it, these are her decisions to make. As far as her recording songs entirely written by others...they're evidently songs she loved and felt fit the theme of the album; again, that's her prerogative as an artist. She's had co-writers on every one of her solo albums, so I'm not sure why it's such an issue now. And to suggest that she's only doing it because she's...old and can't write her own songs anymore...is just really bizarre.

I agree about the cover songs in concert, partly because I'd rather hear some of her songs that she never does, and partly b/c I don't usually like her choices of covers. Circle Dance is a touching song, but too maudlin to sit through in concert. Also, I do not like Bob Seger or Led Zeppelin.

markolas · #22 04-07-2011, 01:27 PM

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And yes, she has tons of vault songs...but I know that I would be terribly disappointed if a new release consisted more than 50% of songs written 20 years ago. I would read it as a sign that she has given up on ever being creative again.

Agree with all of your post except for this part. While many of those vault songs didn't make her albums for very good reasons, a lot of them are very good, and I'd love to see them polished up, re-recorded, and put on an album. It would never occur to me to think that it was a sign of her having given up on writing new songs.

Annabell Lee · #23 04-07-2011, 02:00 PM

I don't see this as never being creative again either. I just think it was a fresh new way of doing things for her. If anything this WAS a creative alternative. She has said she never writes w/ anyone and she DID let Dave into her world for this. I am sure that was a brave thing for her to do. If the end product is as good as i suspect it will be, then it was the right way for her to make the album. I do wish she would throughly search the vaults and find some more of her little gems. I think we all would love that but, if this is what's comfortable for her then so be it.

Josh2003 · #24 04-07-2011, 02:11 PM

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Agree with all of your post except for this part. While many of those vault songs didn't make her albums for very good reasons, a lot of them are very good, and I'd love to see them polished up, re-recorded, and put on an album. It would never occur to me to think that it was a sign of her having given up on writing new songs.

I'm not saying I wouldn't like to hear her polish off and finally release some of her demos...in fact, I LOVE that she does that. But if it got to the point where the majority of her "new" albums are just redoing old demos, I would be a bit disappointed.

windbecame · #25 04-07-2011, 02:13 PM

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Why don't you just wait until you hear the new album before you start b*tching about who she's writing with? If the songs end up sounding great, I don't think it matters much who wrote them.

Yes, she has an amazing vault of material, but I'm honestly not too keen on hearing her current voice attempt "Christian," for instance. I like the fact that she's writing new songs, and if it took Dave Stewart to get them to a finished product, so be it.

Omg RIGHT?? when i think about her current voice singing Frustrated Love!!

that vocal with just the piano makes the song for me! but then again..i don't really like hardly ANY of her later demos VOCALS?

she just seems to not really put passion into the raw demos anymore...it's like she's just sayin "here's where i will sing when we record" it's one of the reasons i was initially afraid of "Thrown Down" and "Not Make Believe"have been kinda scared of "Anabel Lee" ..does that make any sense??

markolas · #26 04-07-2011, 02:14 PM

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I'm not saying I wouldn't like to hear her polish off and finally release some of her demos...in fact, I LOVE that she does that. But if it got to the point where the majority of her "new" albums are just redoing old demos, I would be a bit disappointed.

I don't see her ever doing that. I'd love for her to do one album of those redone old songs, but I doubt she'll even do that much. So, one or two (or even three or four) old songs per solo album seems like peanuts to me.

KarmaContestant · #27 04-07-2011, 02:29 PM

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I don't see her ever doing that. I'd love for her to do one album of those redone old songs, but I doubt she'll even do that much. So, one or two (or even three or four) old songs per solo album seems like peanuts to me.

That would be great - and entire album of vault songs - stuff she knows the fans have heard. Some people might be devastated at the changes made to their favorite demos.

What would also be great is an anthology of sorts, where Stevie goes through her demo collection and draws a line in the sand...just because, and says "I am not ever going to use these demos." and then releases a two or three CD set of demos, in their original form - along with outtakes or almost-but-not-quite finished versions of songs such as the RAL version of Lady From The Mountina, or the sax outtake of Thousand Days.

Annabell Lee · #28 04-07-2011, 02:38 PM

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That would be great - and entire album of vault songs - stuff she knows the fans have heard. Some people might be devastated at the changes made to their favorite demos.

What would also be great is an anthology of sorts, where Stevie goes through her demo collection and draws a line in the sand...just because, and says "I am not ever going to use these demos." and then releases a two or three CD set of demos, in their original form - along with outtakes or almost-but-not-quite finished versions of songs such as the RAL version of Lady From The Mountina, or the sax outtake of Thousand Days.

" Dream on you silly dreamer " LOL GREAT idea but it's a long shot that this will happen. But, you never know !

markolas · #29 04-07-2011, 02:45 PM

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That would be great - and entire album of vault songs - stuff she knows the fans have heard. Some people might be devastated at the changes made to their favorite demos.

I know some hate it when she deviates too much from the demo, but I really look at demos as just rough sketches - I would be very interested in hearing what she'd do with some of them in fully-recorded form, and yes, even with the voice she has now.

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What would also be great is an anthology of sorts, where Stevie goes through her demo collection and draws a line in the sand...just because, and says "I am not ever going to use these demos." and then releases a two or three CD set of demos, in their original form - along with outtakes or almost-but-not-quite finished versions of songs such as the RAL version of Lady From The Mountina, or the sax outtake of Thousand Days.

I like that idea, too, but I wonder if that boat wasn't missed with Enchanted. I still don't understand why Gold or Whenever I Call You Friend were included. I love that she put It's Late, Sweet Girl, and the piano version of Rhiannon on there, but I would love to have high-quality versions of China Doll and Forest of the Black Roses on there instead of the John Stewart & Kenny Loggins duets.

KarmaContestant · #30 04-07-2011, 02:51 PM

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" Dream on you silly dreamer " LOL GREAT idea but it's a long shot that this will happen. But, you never know !

I know, right?

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I like that idea, too, but I wonder if that boat wasn't missed with Enchanted. I still don't understand why Gold or Whenever I Call You Friend were included. I love that she put It's Late, Sweet Girl, and the piano version of Rhiannon on there, but I would love to have high-quality versions of China Doll and Forest of the Black Roses on there instead of the John Stewart & Kenny Loggins duets.

Agreed! She at least could have replaced them with the B-sides Mirror Mirror and Real Tears, if not other demos.