Julia NEEDS to be released - Page 2

tbaker3 · #16 03-31-2011, 10:47 AM

my personal fav of Julia.

vivfox · #17 03-31-2011, 11:00 AM

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my personal fav of Julia. \

That was a very enjoyable video for me, going down memory lane with all those photos and videos.

jcalzaretta · #18 03-31-2011, 12:19 PM

I totally agree that Julia should be released. One of my absolute favorites. I also think Forest of the Black Roses should be released as well.

KarmaContestant · #19 03-31-2011, 12:29 PM

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I also think Forest of the Black Roses should be released as well.

Agreed.

I've always seen this song being left as-is. Very short, and sweet - like an interlude between two other songs. Tori Amos does this a lot, with tracks like Wampum Prayer and Mr. Zebra.

mikebise · #20 03-31-2011, 12:37 PM

In a 1986 interview with Mary Turner, Stevie talked about the movie Julia, where she got the names for Lily and Julia for herself and Robin. "Julia" and "Rock A Little" use those names, and "Impossible Task" is basically the story of the movie Julia.

ontheEdgeof17 · #21 03-31-2011, 12:39 PM

The last time I wanted a demo to see the light, "Smile At You" was recorded. I will never wish my precious "Julia" to that kind of torture. It's beautiful the way it is. We have the ultimate version...why ruin it?

UndoingTheLaces · #22 03-31-2011, 12:40 PM

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my personal fav of Julia.

Does anyone know if this is the Belladonna version or the Wild Heart version? I'm quite sure this is the infamous "Take 5". And yeah, it's my favorite one too. To me this is the definitive version. I think it captures a time, the era and a time in Stevie's life. I don't think I'd want to hear a modern version of it unless Stevie wanted to dust it off and do it in concert. It's not a raw demo like Secret Love or Planets, it's a full song. Would be nice as a bonus track on a remaster though.

HejiraNYC · #23 03-31-2011, 12:45 PM

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In a 1986 interview with Mary Turner, Stevie talked about the movie Julia, where she got the names for Lily and Julia for herself and Robin. "Julia" and "Rock A Little" use those names, and "Impossible Task" is basically the story of the movie Julia.

But in the song "Julia," Julia=Stevie.

It's another one of those kinda bitter songs (aimed at Fleetwood Mac, I believe) that Stevie cloaks under a layer of buoyant melodies and harmonies. I have grown to appreciate this subversive aspect of her songwriting. Indeed, under the gossamer wings is a sheathed stiletto.

Annabell Lee · #24 03-31-2011, 01:12 PM

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my personal fav of Julia.

Great complication video ! Thanks so much for sharing that, it made Julia even better than it already is !

It's my fav. Julia also. That was a great timeline of Stevie. I'd forgotten about some of those shots. Thanks again !

Fannymac · #25 03-31-2011, 02:26 PM

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Somebody on here said that Julia was so close to being on Bella Donna that album art had been done showing it on the track list. Apparently, Jimmy Iovine hated the song and insisted that it be pulled. It was recorded again for The Wild Heart and again he vetoed it.

I like it a lot - I think my preferred version is the one labeled "slower outtake" that I think is from The Wild Heart. Unfortunately, I think Julia's time has come and gone. If they ever do a remastered/expanded edition of Bella Donna, maybe they'll include it.

That was me.....there was an actual mock-up of the artwork at Modern with it listed while I was interning.
And, yes, if a remastered version of BELLA DONNA is ever released, this track, "I Need To Know" and "Golden Braid" need to be on it!!!

editormarf · #26 03-31-2011, 02:39 PM

Does anyone know where I can find the lyrics to this song? I checked NicksFix--not there.. Thanks!

drzubritsky · #27 03-31-2011, 02:48 PM

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That was me.....there was an actual mock-up of the artwork at Modern with it listed while I was interning.
And, yes, if a remastered version of BELLA DONNA is ever released, this track, "I Need To Know" and "Golden Braid" need to be on it!!!

It is kind of odd that "I Need To Know" has never been issued on CD, given what a staple it was in her live show for years. I like the version from the HBO special the best (I transferred the audio of that from laserdisc).

With regard to "Gold & Braid", it sure would be nice to get a fully realized studio version from the Bella Donna sessions. The various outtakes I have heard from master reels bootlegs all come up short in one way or another. In some cases the vocal is fine but too low in the mix, some takes are obviously a scratch vocal, or in other cases the instrumental backing is sketchy. I'm sure the pieces are there to create a nice studio version of "Gold & Braid" from the BD sessions but I doubt it will ever happen.

Another "nice to have" would be to take the best outtake of "Julia" and finish it out with appropriate instrumentation and final mix. It sounds like it got very close to a finished product but was abandoned before being polished up. Again, highly unlikely this would ever happen. The same concept could be applied to any number of "close but not quite finished" studio-recorded songs.

markolas · #28 03-31-2011, 03:13 PM

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"Julia" is one of those great epic rockers in the vein of "Bella Donna" and "Wild Heart," but I do understand why Jimmy pushed to have it nixed from the album(s). It's just one of those songs that don't really stand well on its own. It's not a song that you would hear on the radio. The subject matter is very specific (about Stevie, of course) and it does not have universal themes. In a nutshell, it's a big sloppy love letter written by Stevie to Stevie. I suppose if albums back in the day were as long as they are today, "Julia" would have made the cut. But as it is, I think Bella Donna in its current form is perfection. Adding "Julia" would have definitely altered the mood they were trying to create with the sequencing.

I agree that Bella Donna is perfect the way it is, and although I like Julia a lot, I wouldn't alter the current track order. I also don't think Stevie should re-record it. What I'd like to see is for it to be cleaned up and properly mixed and added as a bonus track to a remastered edition of Bella Donna (there are enough leftover songs from that project to make a whole other album - and they're good songs!).

mikebise · #29 03-31-2011, 03:16 PM

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That was me.....there was an actual mock-up of the artwork at Modern with it listed while I was interning.
And, yes, if a remastered version of BELLA DONNA is ever released, this track, "I Need To Know" and "Golden Braid" need to be on it!!!

Did "Julia" get replaced by another song, or were there 11 on Bella Donna?

mikebise · #30 03-31-2011, 03:19 PM

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Does anyone know where I can find the lyrics to this song? I checked NicksFix--not there.. Thanks!

All Stevie lyrics are at buckinghamnicks.net ~ John used to have "Julia" lyrics on the NicksFix, until 1997 when he was officially recognized!

"Julia"
Written by Stevie Nicks.

I will ride through the snow
in an old-fashioned carriage,
Drawn by a small, golden horse...
She runs like the wind...yeah...

When I run through your door,
I am freed from my slavery...
And the fire will be burning
long before you return to me...

For in my house,
no teasing spirits...
No false laughter...
No one has to tell me
to be there...no one...
I'll be there...
And I would suffer for the love,
I would suffer for the love...
I would cry to be moved...

I do two things these days,
and these nights,
Julia is no fool...
People ask me,
they ask me,
they say, "So, Julie,
just what is it that
you do now?"
She does two things...
Two things...
Well, in the light of sunset,
she does the stars
and she does you...

I love the stars...
I give to you
what I love...
Who is the child
who disregards
all your rules...?
I would suffer for the love,
and I would cry
to be moved...

I do two things these days...
And these nights,
Julia is no fool...
People ask me,
they ask me,
they say, "So, Julie,
just what is it that
you do now...?"
Well, she does two things,
two things...
Well, in the light of sunset,
she does the stars...
and she does you...

No fool...
She does two things...
Two things...
Well, in the light of sunset,
she does the stars
and...she loves you...

She loves the stars...
She loves her stars...

(Suffer for the love...)
(Cry...cry...)

She loves the stars,
and she loves you...