Stevie's Extra Vocals on Tango

UndoingTheLaces · #1 03-18-2011, 03:57 AM

Does anyone have any info about Stevie's extra vocals on Little Lies, Big Love and Family Man? I know Mick said in his book that Stevie was mad that she was hardly on the album so they stuck around and added her extra parts but is there any other info or tidbits about this? Any demos that feature more of these extra verses? It sounds from the various mixes of Big Love that there was a bunch of extra vocals recorded but only certain bits were sampled and used. It would be awesome to hear a full demo with Stevie singing along with Lindsey.

**mylittledemon** · #2 03-18-2011, 04:12 AM

The Little Lies extended (Jellybean) mix has a bit more of Stevie in it.

I'm assuming Buckingham didn't use a lot of Stevie's parts because, well, they weren't very good.

Also, I have a feeling that her contributions were minimal... Lindsey said she was "hardly" there (I think only a few weeks out of the year it took to make the record)... God knows.

mikebise · #3 03-18-2011, 07:58 AM

Stevie's awesome extra vocals sound very 1986 ~ pre~Betty Ford. I don't think she recorded them in early 1987, as Mick seems to assert.

A few months ago, someone on here posted that LB had a fit and erased Stevie from everything except for "Little Lies". This poster said that the album sounded very different before he did that. Aside from those remixes, I have no idea what else she sang on.

UndoingTheLaces · #4 03-18-2011, 11:00 AM

Yeah, the extra vocals sounded great for remixes but I can't imagine the little bits on Little Lies and Family man would have mixed well into the original mixes without sounding tacked on. I always thought Tango was the least Fleetwood Mac sounding album because Stevie was hardly on it other than her few songs. But I have to say I love her extra vocals on Big Love. I didn't care for the album cut but the remix is one of my favorite songs from that era.

I was also surprised that they didn't use the extra vocals from the end of Seven Wonders because usually in the old extended remixes they often made use of vocals that went on beyond the album cut fadeout but on listening to the Seven Wonders 12" mix they end it on a much more dramatic note by stopping where they did, so I think they made a very wise decision there. I'm also amazed at how kick ass the Seven Wonders and Big Love remixes were compared to Little Lies. That one still blows me away. The original is so good and the remix really misses the mark.

Artemis · #5 03-18-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces

But I have to say I love her extra vocals on Big Love. I didn't care for the album cut but the remix is one of my favorite songs from that era

This! I just listened to the remix on youtube to refresh my memory, and she sounds really good on it, I wish they'd kept her vocals in the main version, it would have added so much to the song, in my opinion, made it sound a bit more like Fleetwood Mac

mikebise · #6 03-18-2011, 02:03 PM

Right before Tango came out, Ginny Kamano sent out a letter to Stevie's fans. In it, she said that LB was only going to have TWO of Stevie's songs on the album, and NONE of her vocals on the rest. Warner Brothers intervened and insisted Stevie have THREE songs of hers on the album, as well as her vocals being on at least one other song.

If WB hadn't gotten involved, there would have been even LESS Stevie on the record.

drzubritsky · #7 03-18-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces

... I always thought Tango was the least Fleetwood Mac sounding album because Stevie was hardly on it other than her few songs...

You're absolutely right on that front. Other than the lead vocals on her 3 songs, the only Stevie appearance that I can hear is her counter-melody line on "Little Lies" (which sounds somewhat tacked on). Even on her own songs, it sounds like she only has a lead vocal, with no harmonies with herself as she had done on previous albums (e.g. "Dreams", "That's Alright" where she adds a harmony line along with CM and LB to create a very full block harmony sound). That is why the choruses of "Seven Wonders" and "Wecome To The Room Sara" sound a bit thin compared to Stevie's songs on previous albums.

Artemis · #8 03-18-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mikebise

Right before Tango came out, Ginny Kamano sent out a letter to Stevie's fans. In it, she said that LB was only going to have TWO of Stevie's songs on the album, and NONE of her vocals on the rest. Warner Brothers intervened and insisted Stevie have THREE songs of hers on the album, as well as her vocals being on at least one other song.

If WB hadn't gotten involved, there would have been even LESS Stevie on the record.

This really makes me wonder which Stevie song was the added extra, and which two were the originals.

Excellent point about Stevie not having any harmonies with herself, or appearing in the backing of any of the others' songs too. Although, I could have sworn I can hear her in Everywhere.

AliceLover · #9 03-18-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mikebise

Right before Tango came out, Ginny Kamano sent out a letter to Stevie's fans. In it, she said that LB was only going to have TWO of Stevie's songs on the album, and NONE of her vocals on the rest. Warner Brothers intervened and insisted Stevie have THREE songs of hers on the album, as well as her vocals being on at least one other song.

If WB hadn't gotten involved, there would have been even LESS Stevie on the record.

Too bad, Christine shined on TITN.

wheart · #10 03-18-2011, 03:30 PM

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Too bad, Christine shined on TITN.

her finest moments IMO!! Isn't it Midnight? Everywhere? Perfection!!

**mylittledemon** · #11 03-18-2011, 03:47 PM

I really think Tango would've been one of their very best records (and it already is good) if Stevie had shined as much as Christine eh

UndoingTheLaces · #12 03-18-2011, 03:51 PM

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Although, I could have sworn I can hear her in Everywhere.

Well she's there in the Tango live DVD. LOL! I always figured they used all that grainy behind the scenes footage to hide the fact that Christine would cringe every time Stevie would go "I wanna be with you..." in the chorus.

tabruns · #13 03-18-2011, 04:11 PM

I think it was in Mick's book where he says they were in the recording studio listening to a playback of the album and Stevie was getting more and more upset. She complained that it was like she wasn't on the album at all. Mick asked specifically what she thought she should be on and Stevie replied "'Everywhere'....you should be able to hear me on 'Everywhere'". Christine then said that she had wanted Stevie on "Everywhere" but that they'd been working on the album for nearly a year before Stevie joined them so the fault was Stevie's. Stevie apologized for that, and then they supposedly added Stevie's vocals to "Everywhere" and according to Mick it "did sound more like Fleetwood Mac".

Thing is I can't really hear Stevie on "Everywhere". Maybe if I heard the original version that didn't have Stevie's vocals mixed in and then heard the one that ended up on Tango In The Night I might be able to say "oh yeah now I can hear her"....but just hearing the Tango "Everywhere" it doesn't sound to me like Stevie's voice is noticeable there. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

I think over-all Tango DOES sound very "Stevie light".....she's noticeable on "Little Lies" but that's about it. People think she's the female voice on "Big Love" but she's not....that's a computer-altered Lindsey vocal.

I agree that Tango could have been truly great if Stevie was more a part of the album and if she'd turned in better songs.

mikebise · #14 03-18-2011, 04:24 PM

She turned in:

"Seven Wonders"
"When I See You Again"
"Juliet"
"Whole Lotta Trouble"
"What Has Rock And Roll Ever Done For You?"
"Joan Of Arc"
"Welcome To the Room... Sara"

Pretty good songs to me!

UndoingTheLaces · #15 03-18-2011, 05:23 PM

I'm surprised "What Has Rock And Roll Ever Done For You?" hasn't turned up somewhere else. Like on a soundtrack or one of Stevie's solo albums or a b-side or something. That was a pretty wild song.