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Old 03-07-2011, 08:34 AM
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Thanks Mikebise! I'm really excited to hear any SYW alt/outtake material. Looking forward to it!!
It will be this afternoon after work. From what I remember, there are:

"Running Through The Garden" ~ Alt. mix
"Say You Will" ~ 2 alt. mixes
"Miranda" ~ Stevie vocals
"Illume" ~ Alt. mix

Maybe a few others...
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:15 AM
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I"ll get butchered for this but i cannot stand Illume and Say You Will is a weak, watered down AOR track.
I love the production on Illume and it is probably my favorite song from her on Say You Will. However, I don't really consider it a song. She just pieced lyrics from various things and it sounds like two different songs molded into one. I'm past that stuff. I want a song that makes sense. They did a really good job conveying that "Set Adrift" feeling on the song with the music. Too bad the lyrics aren't there to support it.
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:31 AM
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The other night, I was listening to my iPod in bed, and Silver Girl came on shuffle, I was so tired that I didn't hit skip, and instead listened to the song. And I fell in love with it. Apart from a few hideous lyrics, it's actually a pretty damn good song. With some amazing production.
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:46 AM
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The other night, I was listening to my iPod in bed, and Silver Girl came on shuffle, I was so tired that I didn't hit skip, and instead listened to the song. And I fell in love with it. Apart from a few hideous lyrics, it's actually a pretty damn good song. With some amazing production.
See I actually like the lyrics to Silver Girl. I think she wrote a song that actually captures Sheryl Crow. But the song is bland.
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:37 AM
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I don't like it at all. One of the worst songs on SYW in my opinion. The demo version is better but I still don't even like that. The melody just doesn't appeal to me and there's something about Stevie and her garden songs that rub me the wrong way .
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The story is set in Padua, Italy, in a distant but unspecified past. From his quarters, Giovanni, a young student of letters, looks at Beatrice, the beautiful daughter of Dr. Rappaccini, a scientist working in isolation. Beatrice is confined to the lush and locked gardens filled with poisonous plants by her father. Giovanni notices Beatrice's strangely intimate relationship with the plants as well as the withering of fresh flowers and the death of an insect when exposed to her skin or breath. Having fallen in love, Giovanni enters the garden and meets with Beatrice a number of times regardless of the warning of his mentor, Professor Baglioni, that Rappaccini is up to no good and he and his work should be avoided. Giovanni discovers that Beatrice, having been raised in the presence of poison, is poisonous herself. Beatrice urges Giovanni to look past her poisonous exterior and see her pure and innocent essence, creating great feelings of doubt in Giovanni. He begins to suffer the consequences of his encounters with the plants - and with Beatrice when he discovers that he himself has become poisonous; and after another meeting with Baglioni, Giovanni brings a powerful antidote to Beatrice so that they can be together, but the antidote kills Beatrice rather than destroy her poisonous nature.
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Old 03-07-2011, 02:14 PM
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Like someone said on the Smile at You thread.... I look at the demo and album version as two different songs.... I like them both... maybe the demo a little more because of the battling stevie vocals... and i always look at it as one of her addiction tracks. "so you run towards what you know is wrong"
and Artemis...love your Mew pic... my cat (that i had to put down last year) was named Pikachu!!
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Old 03-07-2011, 04:52 PM
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I love Running Through The Garden and actually think it should have been the lead off single to SYW. I also think Silver Girl is a good song. It takes something tho to hit you before one realizes it's brilliance in its own way. Like a lot of her songs, they may seem bland or monotone at first and then she's chanting or screaming or something at you or nothing at all but something lyrically hits you and you get why the music supports the effect she meant all along.
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Never been nuts about this song, even before SYW came out and it was just a demo. Musically, it rocks... lyrically, let's just say I'm not a big fan of Stevie's fascination with fairy tales. I definitely scratched my head when SYW came out as to why she'd drag that particularly dusty old demo out. I do have to say I think the guitar solo at the end is flawless .
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:25 PM
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Well, I share Stevie's love for Poe, Hawthorne, etc., so I like the lyrics. The demo is kinda muddy (and it's not just the sound quality) - I never liked the "dueling vocals" thing that people are so nuts about. The SYW version is cleaned up quite nicely, and I enjoy LB's presence on it.
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:12 PM
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The lyrics from the horrible audio tracks (quality) from the 80s versions are by far more potent than the SYW release. It seems this is an example of, "OH this is Fleerwood Mac and we are so experimental and 99 layers of noise added to the song makes me feel I'm missing what's she's trying to relay. The word "toxic" was added...and that word was used on every bubblegum record from that era. I missed the lyric..."don't trust her..."

Also this song in the original mix is reminiscent of songs sung in the "round" which I love...Destiny, Thrown Down, can't rember the others.

I think anyone that has been through addictions either personally or with a loved one...will clearly get the haunting warnings....and words. They ring true.

Wasn't she going with Joe Walsh and their combined addiction stuff was a quick and easy potential death for either or both.
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