the 2011 Oscars

DavidMn · #1 02-27-2011, 11:45 PM

So all the ranting and raving has started over King's Speech winning Best Director and Best picture over Social Network. I've heard already on one board that the academy should be abolished because they're all "Old farts" that wouldnt know a film on todays relevant soceity if it hit them in the face. I dont know I saw both movies and loved them both and I'm not outraged that one won over the other. Comments and thoughs on this years awards and reciepients?

CreepingDeath · #2 02-28-2011, 01:27 AM

I just wish Helena Bonham Carter would have finally won.

I definitely approve of the following winners though:

Christian Bale *drool*
Colin Firth *drool*
The King's Speech (Black Swan was brilliant too)

Dodfather · #3 02-28-2011, 05:16 AM

I'm about to make a sweeping generalisation and apologies if it offends... but there is no way that a British film about royalty that, if nominated, would ever not win at least one Oscar - regardless of quality. It was obvious.

While I happen to think The King's Speech is excellent, it's a repeat of The Queen all over again. I like Helen Mirren and there's no doubting her talent but that film is in my opinion flawed, to say the least. Last night's Oscars have just pandered to the particularly American/Academy obsession with British aristocracy. I know this does not apply to everyone but when it does it's predictably ridiculous and does not paint those involved in a flattering light at all.

Stew_Matthews · #4 02-28-2011, 07:04 AM

I can rarely understand the thinking behind the Oscar winners, but I was delighted that Christian Bale won, he was superb and the film was one of my favourites of the year. Colin Firth was great in the King's Speech but his performance in 'A Single Man' was way better in my opinion. I wish he'd won an Oscar for that role instead.

Dodfather · #5 02-28-2011, 08:59 AM

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I wish he'd won an Oscar for that role instead.

Ahhhh, the dreaded Oscar voting. It's so common for people not to win for the roles they "should" have but to then be rewarded, almost for being overlooked before. Two main examples I can think of right now are Denzel Washington who should have won for Malcolm X but finally got it for the very random Training Day and Nicole Kidman who should have won for Moulin Rouge! but then won for The Hours.

GypsySorcerer · #6 02-28-2011, 09:57 AM

The show, IMO, was a hot mes.

James Franco looked like a stoned zombie. He looked so bored. (But then again, so was I.) Anne Hathaway was trying way too hard, and she came across stilted. Part of this was because she was overcompensating for Franco's indifference.

Melissa Leo? OMG, what a train wreck, as was that whole segment. Kirk Douglas.

I sort of wish Helena Bonham Carter would have won. I actually thought her performance in TKS was quite warm and subtle.

Good for Bale and Firth. I have no problem with either of them winning.

Best Song - yikes. I cannot stand Randy Newman, though his speech was entertaining. The sad thing is his song was the best of the nominees, and that's not saying much. Gwyneth's performance was awful. But yaye for Trent Reznor!

I have no issue with TKS's win. I loved the film.

daniellaaarisen · #7 02-28-2011, 01:30 PM

Javier Bardem was absolutely robbed of the Best Actor Oscar. I've seen both The King's Speech and Biutiful and while Firth did an incredible job, Javier was acting on a whole new level.

That being said, The King's Speech deserved best film and best directing, rightfully so. But in terms of acting, you need to see Javier in Biutiful to understand what I'm talking about.

daniellaaarisen · #8 02-28-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew_Matthews

I can rarely understand the thinking behind the Oscar winners, but I was delighted that Christian Bale won, he was superb and the film was one of my favourites of the year. Colin Firth was great in the King's Speech but his performance in 'A Single Man' was way better in my opinion. I wish he'd won an Oscar for that role instead.

Completely agreed. A Single Man was simply beautifully made, and Colin Firth's extremely emotional take of the role still shined above the incredible cinematography and storyline. Again, another reason Javier got gypped... he did to Beautiful what Colin did to A Single Man.

daniellaaarisen · #9 02-28-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather

Ahhhh, the dreaded Oscar voting. It's so common for people not to win for the roles they "should" have but to then be rewarded, almost for being overlooked before. Two main examples I can think of right now are Denzel Washington who should have won for Malcolm X but finally got it for the very random Training Day and Nicole Kidman who should have won for Moulin Rouge! but then won for The Hours.

I gotta say, I think her performance was better in The Hours. That could be because that is one of my favorite films of all time, haha.

GypsySorcerer · #10 02-28-2011, 01:41 PM

^^ Kidman is my favorite "current" actress. I think she was slightly better in The Hours than in Moulin Rouge (though both are among my favorite films). I always go back and forth between Nicole in The Hours and Julianne Moore in Far From Heaven that year. Both are stunning.

HejiraNYC · #11 02-28-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather

I'm about to make a sweeping generalisation and apologies if it offends... but there is no way that a British film about royalty that, if nominated, would ever not win at least one Oscar - regardless of quality. It was obvious.

While I happen to think The King's Speech is excellent, it's a repeat of The Queen all over again. I like Helen Mirren and there's no doubting her talent but that film is in my opinion flawed, to say the least. Last night's Oscars have just pandered to the particularly American/Academy obsession with British aristocracy. I know this does not apply to everyone but when it does it's predictably ridiculous and does not paint those involved in a flattering light at all.

I do agree with you that there is a tendency for Americans to perceive the British as being somehow more refined and intellectually superior (I don't know how/why they came to this conclusion!

), especially when it comes to the aristocracy. But I think The King's Speech phenomenon has more to do with the American's love for old fashioned triumphing-against-the-odds stories moreso than it being just another voluble English movie.

Not for nothing, there was a skit on Saturday Night Live a couple of weeks ago, actually more of a mock movie trailer, which was a send-up of one of those typical Guy Ritchie-type gangster movies. The joke (and the only joke) was that the English accents were so cockney and thick (they didn't pronounce any consonants at all!) that it required English subtitles.

It was a stupid premise but it was pretty funny, if I do say so myself.

Dodfather · #12 02-28-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

I gotta say, I think her performance was better in The Hours. That could be because that is one of my favorite films of all time, haha.

Oh I do love The Hours and there's no denying Kidman does some great work in the film but I think both Streep and Moore are better in it.

I have a chapter all about Kidman's career in the phD which I'm in the middle of redrafting for publication actually and by far the easiest bit to write was the Moulin Rouge era.

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Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

^^ Kidman is my favorite "current" actress. I think she was slightly better in The Hours than in Moulin Rouge (though both are among my favorite films). I always go back and forth between Nicole in The Hours and Julianne Moore in Far From Heaven that year. Both are stunning.

My favourite Kidman role is To Die For (1995). For anyone who hasn;t seen it, it is amazing! She wasn;t hugely successfl at this point but as an actress I think it really is her best work, followed by Moulin Rouge! and The Others.

By the way Dani, for some reason I think you especially might like To Die For. Dunno why, just a vibe I get I suppose...

Oh and yes, Far From Heaven is an excellent film!

mezzoforte · #13 02-28-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

I gotta say, I think her performance was better in The Hours. That could be because that is one of my favorite films of all time, haha.

Agreed--loved it. Have you read the book?
I've always thought the director wanted to give Streep some Oscar bait in that role. Her big breakdown in the kitchen was another character's in the book.

GypsySorcerer · #14 02-28-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather

Oh I do love The Hours and there's no denying Kidman does some great work in the film but I think both Streep and Moore are better in it.

I have a chapter all about Kidman's career in the phD which I'm in the middle of redrafting for publication actually and by far the easiest bit to write was the Moulin Rouge era.

My favourite Kidman role is To Die For (1995). For anyone who hasn;t seen it, it is amazing! She wasn;t hugely successfl at this point but as an actress I think it really is her best work, followed by Moulin Rouge! and The Others.

By the way Dani, for some reason I think you especially might like To Die For. Dunno why, just a vibe I get I suppose...

Oh and yes, Far From Heaven is an excellent film!

She is great in To Die For. Her best performance, I believe, is Dogville. She has had some misfires recently, but I think she is wonderful.

Dodfather · #15 02-28-2011, 01:54 PM

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She is great in To Die For. Her best performance, I believe, is Dogville. She has had some misfires recently, but I think she is wonderful.

Dogville does have a great performance but man, it's bleak. I own it but really don't have much desire to watch it often. I love a good dark film but it's a bit much even for me!

She has a history of misfires... by far her worst, worst film is Far And Away... euuchhh!! "My spooons, my spoooons..." Oh, what I wanted to do with her damn spoons! Haha. More recently I think The Stepford Wives and Bewitched are her worst. No, Nicole, no! I loved Australia though and Margot At The Weedding is a good, quirky little movie.