Bella Donna & Wild Heart= End of Story!

SufferYourLove · #1 02-25-2011, 12:03 PM

Bella Donna & Wild Heart are Stevie and Jimmy Iovine's masterpieces. Everything after that in her solo career is rubbish. Of course she had some good songs after these two albums but they do not compare or come close to anything on BD & WH. Jimmy Iovine took those songs and turned them into magic. He is her best producer ever. Nothing beats her voice on BD & WH. So pure that it made my heart melt. I hate to be harsh but I wish she never slept with him and started a relationship with him maybe then we would have more albums produced by him and albums worth listening to. The way Jimmy blended everything together was true art. He works with tons of artist and does magnificent things with their work. I have been a fan of Stevie for a long time. I was there when BD was released! I was so excited to listen to it. When I put it on I was just in awe. Same with Wild Heart. Then came Rock A Little came.. not bad but starting to go downhill. Terrible music, terrible lyrics, terrible voice. I don't even want to talk about The Otherside Of the Mirror or Street Angel

louielouie2000 · #2 02-25-2011, 12:47 PM

I guess it all comes down to taste... because give me Street Angel any day over Wild Heart. What an overly sappy monument to Stevie's bloated ego. Street Angel by comparison is a Godsend. It's straight forward rock and roll.

KarmaContestant · #3 02-25-2011, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Street Angel by comparison is a Godsend. It's straight forward rock and roll.

I like Wild Heart a lot, but Street Angel is a great album. I think what really stands out is the timelessness of the instrumentation, with no period-fads or dated musical trends.

SufferYourLove · #4 02-25-2011, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

I guess it all comes down to taste... because give me Street Angel any day over Wild Heart. What an overly sappy monument to Stevie's bloated ego. Street Angel by comparison is a Godsend. It's straight forward rock and roll.

Really? That really shocks me. In all honesty what about Wild Heart don't you like?? What about Street Angel is better?

Out of the 10 songs on Wild Heart there is only one song that is okay and that is I Will Run To You. The rest is a masterpiece. I love I Will Run To You but that was written by Tom Petty so that is just a waste of a song.

Out of the 13 songs on Street Angel there is only one good song Blue Denim and two okay songs Rose Garden and Kick It.

The reason I don't think Rose Garden is a good song is for the whole corniness of it and this part just is bad.. Well, I've got all these things...All these things but a small gold band...On my finger...on my left hand Yuck.

As for Kick It this whole verse is bad imo Well I'm waited for in Egypt...It's just something I must do..Yes I can see you're waited for...all over you..All day and all night...all over the world..
It's your world

Love Is Like A River can be a guilty pleasure at times but that is another song that is just too much for me. Good music, some embarrassing lyrics.

louielouie2000 · #5 02-25-2011, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

Street Angel is a great album. I think what really stands out is the timelessness of the instrumentation, with no period-fads or dated musical trends.

YES!! I knew there had to be another Ledgie who felt that way!

I just feel all of Stevie's fans automatically dismiss the album because Stevie badmouths it because it wasn't a hot seller. The reasons you mentioned are exactly why I love the album. The production style is clean, sharply creased, and no-nonsense. Stevie isn't hiding behind a lot of whizbangery the way she often had on her solo works. It's good, straight forward rock and roll... and I *LOVE* it

.

SufferYourLove · #6 02-25-2011, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

YES!! I knew there had to be another Ledgie who felt that way!

I just feel all of Stevie's fans automatically dismiss the album because Stevie badmouths it because it wasn't a hot seller. The reasons you mentioned are exactly why I love the album. The production style is clean, sharply creased, and no-nonsense. Stevie isn't hiding behind a lot of whizbangery the way she often had on her solo works. It's good, straight forward rock and roll... and I *LOVE* it

.

I will say that I hear a lot of criticism over Stevie's voice on Street Angel but I must say I don' t think her voice is bad.. It's just the writing, and the bad song choices on her part.

She needs to get Jimmy back and get him to produce good music like BD & WH. Get her writing back in order and rock it!!! I so miss the Stevie I fell in love with!

I know a lot of people say that if she recorded some of the demo's like China Doll, Julia, etc it would be ruined with her voice today and I have to disagree. Those songs are where the emotion and lyrics are at! We need those song done!!

To be brave save the stranger

KarmaContestant · #7 02-25-2011, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SufferYourLove

I will say that I hear a lot of criticism over Stevie's voice on Street Angel but I must say I don' t think her voice is bad.. It's just the writing, and the bad song choices on her part.

Stevie's vocals on Street Angel are very good. As far as writing, there are a couple songs I'd consider subpar, but then that happens with almost every one of her albums, minus Bella Donna. I don't care for Unconditional Love, although the earlier demo versions aren't so bad...but the fnal product is a little too glossy (same with Thousand Days). But...really, other than that I quite like the writing - epecially the old tracks that were left over from Rock A Little.

I do wish Love Is Like A River had a certain something, not sure what it is that's missing exactly, but it never sounds complete. Still, it's a favorite of mine.

SapphireSister · #8 02-25-2011, 01:37 PM

In the last year or so I've started to consider Wild Heart to be her best album but I go back and forth between that, BD, and TISL. She was definitely the hottest she's ever been during that time. That being said I will never forgive Jimmy Iovine for not including All the Beautiful Worlds on TWH album instead of Gate and Garden. And apparently it was for personal reasons between he and Stevie. Biggest mistake EVER and I strongly resent him for it. That would have made the album a masterpiece.

Sanne2 · #9 02-25-2011, 01:37 PM

I prefer Rock A Little over Wild Heart

KarmaContestant · #10 02-25-2011, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SapphireSister

That being said I will never forgive Jimmy Iovine for not including All the Beautiful Worlds on TWH album instead of Gate and Garden. And apparently it was for personal reasons between he and Stevie. Biggest mistake EVER and I strongly resent him for it. That would have made the album a masterpiece.

Agreed - I don't know why Stevie couldn't just release tracks like that as b-sides, instead of the typical album tracks that she used more often than not.

SapphireSister · #11 02-25-2011, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanne2

I prefer Rock A Little over Wild Heart

I think RAL is probably my favorite album to listen to but coming from a singer/song-writer point of view I would say TWH wins over RAL.

Artemis · #12 02-25-2011, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SufferYourLove

Out of the 10 songs on Wild Heart there is only one song that is okay and that is I Will Run To You. The rest is a masterpiece.

Gate and Garden disagrees with that statement.

Also, I consider TISL and RAL to be totally amazing Stevie albums, TISL is easily on par with BD and WH, at least for me; different strokes for different folks.

I like a few songs on OSOTM and SA; namely, Rooms on Fire, Ghosts, Long Way To Go, Whole Lotta Trouble, Blue Denim, Greta, Kick it and Listen To The Rain. The rest... no. Garbage.

RAL is a very love/hate album. I didn't like it (other than Talk to Me and No Spoken Word) for the longest time, but, lately, I've discovered a new found love for it. The crazy vocals, the unescapable eighties vibe of the whole thing!

Overall, I think Wild Heart is her best solo album to date, with Bella Donna and TISL a close second, but, I don't believe the rest of her stuff is necessarily worthless; there are some brilliant gems hidden amongst the garbage.

SapphireSister · #13 02-25-2011, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artemis

Overall, I think Wild Heart is her best solo album to date, with Bella Donna and TISL a close second, but, I don't believe the rest of her stuff is necessarily worthless; there are some brilliant gems hidden amongst the garbage.

I love you my Karma Cousin!

I agree with all of this except the garbage part.