New album track listing (updated) - Page 22

sorcerer999 · #**316** 02-03-2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming

Also interesting is how "this is her best album ever" is all the buzz with industry peeps. It's like we're being um - "prepared" to believe this is her best album ever... not that it won't be, just an observation...

Not to compare the two (because it's like apples and oranges) but I remember Speilberg, Lucas and a host of Movie Industry insiders saying that "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" was the best Indy film yet...and look what happened there.

Sometimes I think these folks want to get us excited because they know they're working on a crappy product.

I really do hope that they're not all blowing smoke up our a**es...and that this is indeed her best album ever!

PenguinHead · #**317** 02-03-2011, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Musicman408

On a random note, I've been listening to some demos of "Dial the Number", and totally love the song. I have always loved it, but really am digging it right now. I feel like it could be beautifully done in today's Stevie!

I agree...that song stands out among a dozen or so other unreleased songs. There were several or so recordings of the song, so there was a lot of effort involved.

estranged4life · #**318** 02-03-2011, 10:38 PM

all the pages of this thread (Sorry) but is the completed track "My Love" from the TISL Sessions (Leaked on the bootleg "TISL Final Mixes" CDR and the "TISL Acetate" that surfaced in Germany years ago) one of the tracks rumored to be on the new release? (I saw the discussion of it on the first page)

Sounds along the lines of a "Campbell/Nicks" composition:

"My Heart"
http://www.mediafire.com/?r87nt8cu2ftz7tw

BombaySapphire3 · #**319** 02-03-2011, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sorcerer999

Not to compare the two (because it's like apples and oranges) but I remember Speilberg, Lucas and a host of Movie Industry insiders saying that "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" was the best Indy film yet...and look what happened there.

Sometimes I think these folks want to get us excited because they know they're working on a crappy product.

I really do hope that they're not all blowing smoke up our a**es...and that this is indeed her best album ever!

What Dave and Glen have managed to do with "Secret Love" is pretty compelling evidence that it won't be a crappy album IMO.None of the people that have heard the album even mentioned "Secret Love" as a stand out track so I still have great expectations for this one.

estranged4life · #**320** 02-03-2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mikebise

A few of the songs had slightly different mixes as well. Here is the track listing for the extended CD that several people got in 2000:

01. Trouble in Shangri-La
02. Candlebright
03. That Made Me Stronger
04. Sorcerer
05. Planets of the Universe
06. It's Only Love
07. Everyday (missing a few overdubs)
08. Bombay Sapphires (alternate version)
09. Love Changes
10. Too Far From Texas
11. I Miss You (different mix)
12. Fall From Grace
13. Thrown Down
14. My Heart
15. Touched By An Angel
16. Love Is

under various 'bootleg' names, the usual one is "TISL Final Mixes", but it is the same one you listed here...One of the problems with the FM/SN bootlegs (Moreso the studio demos/outtakes than live recordings), sometimes stuff gets rehashed/renamed for unknown reasons to make it appear as something new.

estranged4life · #**321** 02-03-2011, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sorcerer999

Really? I think it's the exact opposite for me. I always LOATHED the demo of "Secret Love"...but I can't get enough of the new finished version!

the demo circulated, I prefer the finished product too.

As for the long circulating 'original' demo, I just compared it to the version found on Master Reel #53 and they're the exact same version.

Master Reel #53
"Living Room Demos"-1/4 in. Reel
01. Watch Chain
02. Storms (Instrumental)
03. Storms (w/Mick, Stevie and Tom)
04. Love You Enough
05. Secret Love
06. Storms (w/Mick, Stevie, Tom and Welch)

pattyfan · #**322** 02-05-2011, 05:21 PM

God, I'm so pathetic, but I thought you all might get a laugh of of this. I dreamed last night that I was in an elevator with Stevie, and she was telling me all the songs that are going to be on the new disc. In the dream, she told me that Goldfish and Ladybug was going to be on it, but that Watchdevil wasn't. Isn't that weird?

Unfortunately that's all I remember.

Kevin

Jondalar · #**323** 02-06-2011, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

What Dave and Glen have managed to do with "Secret Love" is pretty compelling evidence that it won't be a crappy album IMO.None of the people that have heard the album even mentioned "Secret Love" as a stand out track so I still have great expectations for this one.

You are right. No one even mentioned Secret Love at all. Artist have the final say on what track is released first anymore. Stevie chose this single to release first. I wonder if it's because it is old and something that she is the only songwriter on. It does make you wonder you about the album though. I like this song, but if this is truly the best on the album, then the album can't be that great. I actually like Cheaper then Free a little better than this though because of the vocal and lyrics. Still, Secret Love is a good release, just not one that says Buy Me.

BombaySapphire3 · #**324** 02-06-2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar

You are right. No one even mentioned Secret Love at all. Artist have the final say on what track is released first anymore. Stevie chose this single to release first. I wonder if it's because it is old and something that she is the only songwriter on. It does make you wonder you about the album though. I like this song, but if this is truly the best on the album, then the album can't be that great. I actually like Cheaper then Free a little better than this though because of the vocal and lyrics. Still, Secret Love is a good release, just not one that says Buy Me.

What I meant in my post is that since no one that has actually heard the album even mentioned "Secret Love" as a stand out track it leads me to believe that there are quite a few stronger tracks on the album.Like you mentioned in an earlier post if Secret Love is only a middling track on the album then "In Your Dream"really could rival Bella Donna.

FM77 · #**325** 02-06-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

What I meant in my post is that since no one that has actually heard the album even mentioned "Secret Love" as a stand out track it leads me to believe that there are quite a few stronger tracks on the album.Like you mentioned in an earlier post if Secret Love is only a middling track on the album then "In Your Dream"really could rival Bella Donna.

I would not put this record ahead of Bella Donna--but it is ahead of everything she put out after Wild Heart for sure. It is the first record however, that shows Stevie has grown as an artist in some way. Maybe Dave gets credit for that encouraging her to co-write like in the same room. I think the critics will/have recognized that and that's what they are excited about.

PenguinHead · #**326** 02-06-2011, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar

You are right. No one even mentioned Secret Love at all. Artist have the final say on what track is released first anymore. Stevie chose this single to release first. I wonder if it's because it is old and something that she is the only songwriter on. It does make you wonder you about the album though. I like this song, but if this is truly the best on the album, then the album can't be that great. I actually like Cheaper then Free a little better than this though because of the vocal and lyrics. Still, Secret Love is a good release, just not one that says Buy Me.

Huh? You missed the point entirely. So you are already prepared to dismiss an entire you haven't heard? All based on one song? It just happens to be the one they are leading with. You are thinking way too much about it. Reserve the critical presumtions, and just wait for the album to come out. Preferences are subjective and change over time. Songs don't have to say 'Buy me."

CADreaming · #**327** 02-06-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sorcerer999

Not to compare the two (because it's like apples and oranges) but I remember Speilberg, Lucas and a host of Movie Industry insiders saying that "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" was the best Indy film yet...and look what happened there.

Sometimes I think these folks want to get us excited because they know they're working on a crappy product.

I really do hope that they're not all blowing smoke up our a**es...and that this is indeed her best album ever!

Keeping my fingers crossed!!

Jondalar · #**328** 02-07-2011, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sorcerer999

Not to compare the two (because it's like apples and oranges) but I remember Speilberg, Lucas and a host of Movie Industry insiders saying that "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" was the best Indy film yet...and look what happened there.

Sometimes I think these folks want to get us excited because they know they're working on a crappy product.

I really do hope that they're not all blowing smoke up our a**es...and that this is indeed her best album ever!

That movie was way over the top but it was a good movie, especially compared the crap they put out today. They don't make great movies anymore. The movies that are nominated for oscars are good, but back in the day, they would not get nominated for anything.

Of course this is NOT her best album ever. There is no way in hell she will ever have another Bella Donna. That album was perfect gem. However, she can have a good album and at least show some growth as an artist or do something different. In my opinion, she stopped creatively at the Wild Heart. That was the last creative risk she has taken and her last successful album creatively. Her latter albums have failed. I'm hoping that this album will be the atmospheric, romance record that she has always wanted to make. The Other Side of Mirror was a failure and I'm sure that is what she wanted to do with that record. Street Angel was a complete flop too and I think that is what she wanted to do with that record. The material for this album does seem a lot stronger and the production is more lush and a lot sweeter. Here's to hoping....

Jondalar · #**329** 02-07-2011, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Huh? You missed the point entirely. So you are already prepared to dismiss an entire you haven't heard? All based on one song? It just happens to be the one they are leading with. You are thinking way too much about it. Reserve the critical presumtions, and just wait for the album to come out. Preferences are subjective and change over time. Songs don't have to say 'Buy me."

No I am not ready to dismiss the album entirely. I like Secret Love a lot but I also know that Stevie is a terrible decision maker. I played the song for my brother and he shrugged and saids it was ok, but its not a hit. I think Secret Love got released because it's AC and it was written totally by her and she liked that. The production on the song does not sound cheap. A lot of thought went it into and it keeps the song dramatic and interesting for such a simple song. I think the album is going to be a winner but I don't think people are going to rush out and buy it for that single. That's all I'm saying. I have only liked two of Stevie's solo album, Bella Donna and The Wild Heart. I really believe that this is album will the third.

blinker12 · #**330** 02-10-2011, 10:26 AM

Updated to reflect title of what has been referred to as the "Twilight" song: "Moonlight - A Vampire's Dream." Thanks to vivfox for posting the article.

We now have all but two of the 13 song titles.