New album track listing (updated)

[Meowi]

Trolls don't belong on the Ledge, they belong on 4chan

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by 10kRedSolids

Why would someone telling fans on a message board that they've heard Stevie's new record expect to get flack for it? It's absurd to suggest that someone with inside information should just keep their mouth shut instead of being generous enough to share whatever information they can with other fans. I think the majority on here who continually attack the messenger for offering bits and pieces of info are just being childish and are perhaps a bit jealous that there are some people out there who have heard the new music months before its release. As Pwyll said, if you don't believe him, move on - but there's no need to attack him.

I never once attacked this person. I only chimed in when he/she felt the need to personally insult everyone by calling them assholes.

[mikebise]

Originally Posted by APerfectLie

All I have to say is that it is rather peculiar that the only ones defending FM77 are those who rarely post here.

Really?

I think FM77 has a ring of truth to him. I'm using my Stevie Gemini Intuition here. He's never gone, "I know something you don't know!", not once. He seems laid back, gets a little frustrated when pushed too far, like everyone on the planet except for Gandhi.

The Vault/Mike Campbell songs are not ones he's familiar with. Maybe we don't know all of Stevie's songs in our incessant lyrics postings. Maybe they are truly unknown songs. And, no, I didn't know "Wide Sargasso Sea" was a rocker.

I'm not laying down my life for FM77. I just think his posts have a ring of honesty in them. And people can call him out on it, that's what comes with it. But to say:

"All I have to say is that it is rather peculiar that the only ones defending FM77 are those who rarely post here."

Well, that's not entirely true.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by mikebise

Really?

I think FM77 has a ring of truth to him. I'm using my Stevie Gemini Intuition here. He's never gone, "I know something you don't know!", not once. He seems laid back, gets a little frustrated when pushed too far, like everyone on the planet except for Gandhi.

The Vault/Mike Campbell songs are not ones he's familiar with. Maybe we don't know all of Stevie's songs in our incessant lyrics postings. Maybe they are truly unknown songs. And, no, I didn't know "Wide Sargasso Sea" was a rocker.

I can understand "intuition," but you can't deny the facts:

-FM77's descriptions have been, by and large, nondescript and/or already known via Twitter and recently published interviews.

-When pushed for specific information, FM77 claims to have no song titles and/or is restricted in his/her ability to provide details. Convenient excuses.

-If you were provided a loaner CD and you were even just a modest FM fan, wouldn't you have made a personal copy? And if asked for specific details, wouldn't you have referred to this copy to provide some clues? He/she should never, ever upload the contents of the CD, but a personal copy would have been perfectly appropriate.

-For someone who is supposedly in the "music business," don't you find FM77's posts to be a bit inarticulate musically speaking? Shouldn't his/her musical vocabulary extend just a little bit beyond "rocking" or "very good?" And don't you find it odd that someone who supposedly makes their living in the music business has no ability recall lyrics or other musical details even after repeated listenings? Here I thought people who did this for a living were actually somehow... musically inclined? On the off-chance that this is a music business insider, all I can say is that it is no wonder that the music industry is in the sh**ter right now- with that kind of limited intellectual capacity. I'm not trying to hate on dumb people necessarily; I just think dumb + delusions of grandeur = TROLL.

[mikebise]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Here I thought people who did this for a living were actually somehow... musically inclined? On the off-chance that this is a music business insider, all I can say is that it is no wonder that the music industry is in the sh**ter right now-

Totally with you there! I don't think music industry types even have basic musical knowledge these days, especially the performers.

I'm glad "Secret Love" is a breath of fresh air! I hope a LOT of new listeners get to hear that song!!!

[Josh2003]

Put me in the column of folks that believes him.

FM77, I am sorry that you've been treated the way you have. And that you've been "reported" for language that we've all used around here from time to time.

[FM77]

Originally Posted by mikebise

Really?

I think FM77 has a ring of truth to him. I'm using my Stevie Gemini Intuition here. He's never gone, "I know something you don't know!", not once. He seems laid back, gets a little frustrated when pushed too far, like everyone on the planet except for Gandhi.

The Vault/Mike Campbell songs are not ones he's familiar with. Maybe we don't know all of Stevie's songs in our incessant lyrics postings. Maybe they are truly unknown songs. And, no, I didn't know "Wide Sargasso Sea" was a rocker.

I'm not laying down my life for FM77. I just think his posts have a ring of honesty in them. And people can call him out on it, that's what comes with it. But to say:

"All I have to say is that it is rather peculiar that the only ones defending FM77 are those who rarely post here."

Well, that's not entirely true.

Thank you. I appreciate your sanity.

[Artemis]

I believe him, but, at the end of the day, if he is lying... then it's no big deal really. I just see it as all part of the fun of the new Stevie album. Like dangling a carrot just that little bit out of your reach

[FM77]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Please don't resort to vulgarity. You're gonna end up getting booted if you don't watch it.

Calling everyone "assholes" is just as mature as you coming in here telling us you've heard Stevie's new record and expecting not to get flack for it. That's great that you've heard the record, wonderful. Really, it is. But if you can't offer any information about it, then let's be honest... There's no real reason for you to mention you've heard the album. You just open yourself up for blasting. The proper & professional thing to do would've been not to mention it at all; whether you have heard it or you haven't.

Dude, I have said over and over there are songs that ARE NOT ON THE RECORD...people kept listing lyrics and titles and I get FLAMED for it because I tell them they aren't on the record. Isn't that information about the record?

When the record gets relseaed, check every song I said WAS NOT on the record (Lady from the Mtn, Blue Water etc...and show me where I was wrong or misleading.

[FM77]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I can understand "intuition," but you can't deny the facts:

-FM77's descriptions have been, by and large, nondescript and/or already known via Twitter and recently published interviews.

-When pushed for specific information, FM77 claims to have no song titles and/or is restricted in his/her ability to provide details. Convenient excuses.

-If you were provided a loaner CD and you were even just a modest FM fan, wouldn't you have made a personal copy? And if asked for specific details, wouldn't you have referred to this copy to provide some clues? He/she should never, ever upload the contents of the CD, but a personal copy would have been perfectly appropriate.

-For someone who is supposedly in the "music business," don't you find FM77's posts to be a bit inarticulate musically speaking? Shouldn't his/her musical vocabulary extend just a little bit beyond "rocking" or "very good?" And don't you find it odd that someone who supposedly makes their living in the music business has no ability recall lyrics or other musical details even after repeated listenings? Here I thought people who did this for a living were actually somehow... musically inclined? On the off-chance that this is a music business insider, all I can say is that it is no wonder that the music industry is in the sh**ter right now- with that kind of limited intellectual capacity. I'm not trying to hate on dumb people necessarily; I just think dumb + delusions of grandeur = TROLL.

Do you really think people in the music business are provided "loaner" CDs of new unreleased music? How naive are you? This music was played in a room with either her and or her people IN THE ROOM. There is no opportunity to pirate CDs and send them off on the internet or copies to burn for other people. Artists have a hard enough time selling records as it is---they sure aren't giving it away months before its released.

How would a musical genius like yourself answer the following question:

Are there any rockers on the record? (is that is yes/no question????) Did I read it wrong?

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by FM77

Do you really think people in the music business are provided "loaner" CDs of new unreleased music? How naive are you? This music was played in a room with either her and or her people IN THE ROOM. There is no opportunity to pirate CDs and send them off on the internet or copies to burn for other people. Artists have a hard enough time selling records as it is---they sure aren't giving it away months before its released.

Um... then why did you say that you only saw track numbers instead of track names? Did they distribute a piece of paper with track numbers on them? Did they have a powerpoint presentation with track numbers on them? This part of your fictional story does not jibe.

And I thought you listened to this thing several times. So you have so much free time that you kept going to this listening room? Repeatedly?

[DavidMn]

I reported FM77 because of the CONTEXT in which the word was used. Yes, we've used that word here from time to time, but FM77's use of it was clearly abusive and over the line in my opinion. That's why I reported that person and I stand by it. BTW notice that in that person's 2 recent posts, they didnt issue any kind of apology whatsoever?

[FM77]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Um... then why did you say that you only saw track numbers instead of track names? Did they distribute a piece of paper with track numbers on them? Did they have a powerpoint presentation with track numbers on them? This part of your fictional story does not jibe.

And I thought you listened to this thing several times. So you have so much free time that you kept going to this listening room? Repeatedly?

There was a jewel case with only track numbers sitting on the table. This contained the disk that was played for the group. I heard the disk on two seperate occasions--with different people listening. I said I heard the disk in its entirety 3-4 times. Some songs were played again, out of disk order. The disk was NEVER in my personal possession. I was INVITED to listen. Wouldn't you make the time to listen to a new record by Dave Stewart and Stevie Nicks????????

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by FM77

There was a jewel case with only track numbers sitting on the table. This contained the disk that was played for the group. I heard the disk on two seperate occasions--with different people listening. I said I heard the disk in its entirety 3-4 times. Some songs were played again, out of disk order. The disk was NEVER in my personal possession. I was INVITED to listen. Wouldn't you make the time to listen to a new record by Dave Stewart and Stevie Nicks????????

I think if i had the chance to listen to this album and the number of times I had heard it was only in the single digits I would remember precisely how many times I had heard it instead of an estimate of '3-4 times"I am also pushing 50 with a bad case of life long ADHD but I know for certain I would recall the songs and details about them vividly after hearing it only once.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by FM77

There was a jewel case with only track numbers sitting on the table. This contained the disk that was played for the group. I heard the disk on two seperate occasions--with different people listening. I said I heard the disk in its entirety 3-4 times. Some songs were played again, out of disk order. The disk was NEVER in my personal possession. I was INVITED to listen. Wouldn't you make the time to listen to a new record by Dave Stewart and Stevie Nicks????????

The web of lies becomes even more elaborate. A jewel case with only track numbers. Brilliant! So "several times" is now "two separate occasions." It's one thing to lie, but it's another thing to keep your story consistent. Nice try.