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On the greater topic: I think everyone both in and outside of the media, needs to be careful where they place the blame, since that only exhibits more symptoms of the greater problem. This guy had issues that transcend 'liberal versus conservative'. As a liberal myself, I do agree that political extremism or fanatasicm is at fault here; whether that fell to the right or left side of the spectrum really isn't important. Violence is not the solution, but unfortunately our human culture reminds us everyday that it is often the first resort. 
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01-11-2011, 12:06 AM
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Something I'd like to mention - just a "random thought" that occurs to me -
The story should be, "A nine-year-old girl was killed today in Arizona by a gunshot wound. Sources say that they have no clues available as to why the girl was shot. Also killed were Judge Roll from Arizona (etc.) There were also several serious injuries, including a congresswoman from Arizona." I'm not trying to minimize the tragedy of this person being shot - But she's not the only victim and - in my opinion - the "political" motivation is irrelevant, given what happened. It's a secondary thing. The story shouldn't have a little blurb at the end saying "oh by the way some nine-year-old girl was killed too." Just something to consider a bit.
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01-11-2011, 06:25 PM
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01-11-2011, 07:09 PM
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Sure, I totally understand that. I guess what I'm trying to convey is that I feel this guy has lost all claims to a "motive" due to his actions. Legally, he targeted the Congresswoman. Morally, he shot and killed several people, including a nine-year-old girl, a man who happens to work as a Judge, and a woman who happens to work as a Congresswoman. I feel that the other victims are getting "lost" in all the media attention, due to the (supposed) motivation of asssassinating a Congresswoman. But like I said, I feel that his claims to a motive carry no weight. He's a crazyperson who went to a specific location and for no real reason shot more than ten people, killing several of them. Beyond what I've already said, let me phrase it like this: He says his motive was to assassinate the Congresswoman. He could also say the sky is blue on a sunny day. Both of those statements, coming from him, carry no weight with me and therefore are irrelevant, in my opinion. Of course, innocent until proven guilty and all that. One other thing I'd like to mention: How many people, for example, were killed during the Kennedy Assassination? The answer, of course, is one. The reason why, of course, is that the motive of the killer or killers was to kill President Kennedy. This guy shot and killed six people and wounded several others ; his claims about his motive mean nothing to me.
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01-11-2011, 08:33 PM
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His internet presence from youtube and myspace has a political background. It isn't anything that really seems to make any logical sense though, however the congresswoman was specifically targeted. Are we not supposed to believe any killers when they say why they did what they did? The congresswoman is getting the most attention because in this country we reserve the term assassination/assassination attempt to very few people - and she is one of them. It was her event that the shooting took place. At this point, we can't say what he did was done for "no real reason." The congresswoman is also one of the victims who remains alive, but in the most critical condition.
And I don't think the other victims or their families even want publicity or attention. The last thing any grieving family member wants at a time like this is to be bombarded by the media. So it's good that their privacy has been respected. I'm not sure what media outlets you watch/listen/read, but in the past couple of days I've been satisfied by the amount of attention the others who have died have gotten....just some background information on them, and a small mention just to honor their life. But I don't want to know more, because the families just don't deserve the media on their backs at a time like this.
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01-11-2011, 09:31 PM
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The last thing I want to hear about are the details of a 9 year old girl that was shot. I do understand where you are coming from, but I'm glad I don't have to be bombarded with news of the most tragic thing that could happen, even though it did.
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01-11-2011, 09:57 PM
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Good points, all. I guess I had just felt a bit like the Congresswoman was inadvertently getting all the attention when it's at least equally as bad a tragedy for the other victims.
Truth be told the only news coverage of it that I've watched, for the most part, has been the cnn site, because that's "all that I could stand." Their focus (i.m.o.) has been almost completely on the Congresswoman. Anyway the good news is that she seems to be making it through the "critical period" when the brain swelling puts her in serious danger. So I think maybe they're optimistic that she's going to survive.
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01-11-2011, 11:10 PM
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