Arizona Congresswoman asassinated - Page 2

iamnotafraid · #16 01-08-2011, 11:11 PM

It's got nothing to do with leftist or right wing,
it's just some nut.

nailatixela · #17 01-09-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Musicman408

Supposedly the gunman was a far extreme leftist.... I don't know.

Who said that? He seems more on the right end of extremism. Based on what we know about the suspected gunman's youtube channel and myspace page though, he doesn't fit the tea party mold either. We don't even know if this was politically motivated. The congresswoman is a blue dog dem. But I agree with iamnotafraid, he is a nut, and this sort of thing shouldn't be encouraged in any way by the left or right in the media.

bluefox4000 · #18 01-09-2011, 12:49 PM

I've been getting disillusioned With america for a long time now....Another nail in the coffin. This nation has fallen in my eyes. Palin's A despicable Woman. This guy probably just snapped, but still. Some of Palin's statements are nuts. She said something to the effect of if a problem arises, don't run away......RELOAD. what a blithering idiot

Mick

Peestie · #19 01-09-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsfan

Her surgeon just confirmed that a child was killed...died at the hospital.

I saw that on the front page of one of the UK newspaper websites. The whole thing is tragic but the death of a child is particularly horrifying. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...-symbolic-life

tilthefirefades · #20 01-09-2011, 11:20 PM

The strangest thing about all this, she is subscribed to him on Youtube, and he is subscribed to her. She only has 2 subscribers, and he was one of them...

The conspirator in me just has to ask, inside job?

vermicious knid · #21 01-10-2011, 01:09 AM

Weapon in rampage was banned under Clinton-era law

The high-capacity magazine of the semiautomatic pistol used in the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and more than a dozen other people on Saturday would have been illegal to manufacture and difficult to purchase under the Clinton-era assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004.
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Under the assault weapons ban, it was illegal to manufacture or sell new high-capacity magazines, defined as those that hold more than 10 rounds. The magazines used by Loughner had 31 rounds each, according to police.
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President Bush backed the ban, and an amendment to extend it passed in the Senate in 2004 but was never voted on by the House.

Who was in charge of the house of representatives? These two a-holes. Dennis Hastert and criminal Tom Delay

I heard an interview with someone who said that he was tackled while trying to reload the gun. If it hadn't been for these two bastards, this guy might have been tackled after getting only 10 bullets out.

DavidMn · #22 01-10-2011, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tilthefirefades

The strangest thing about all this, she is subscribed to him on Youtube, and he is subscribed to her. She only has 2 subscribers, and he was one of them...

The conspirator in me just has to ask, inside job?

Couldnt that be fake accounts created by people after the fact?

tilthefirefades · #23 01-10-2011, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn

Couldnt that be fake accounts created by people after the fact?

One would think so, but the videos were added before the shooting

Fleetwoodmark · #24 01-10-2011, 08:18 AM

This will not do America's reputation any favours abroad. I'm from Scotland and this is getting so much coverage. If we don't like our politicians we lobby them. We don't go out to the supermarket and shoot them in the head.

A sad day for democracy.

vivfox · #25 01-10-2011, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Fleetwoodmark

This will not do America's reputation any favours abroad. I'm from Scotland and this is getting so much coverage. If we don't like our politicians we lobby them. We don't go out to the supermarket and shoot them in the head.

A sad day for democracy.

America, IMO is still the best place in the world to live, despite the several thousand whack jobs roaming around.

mezzoforte · #26 01-10-2011, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fleetwoodmark

This will not do America's reputation any favours abroad. I'm from Scotland and this is getting so much coverage. If we don't like our politicians we lobby them. We don't go out to the supermarket and shoot them in the head.

A sad day for democracy.

It only takes one psychopath, and they exist everywhere in the world. Obviously, the majority of Americans don't go to the market and shoot people in the head either.
I guess I'm surprised that this would reflect on America--a deeply horrifying tragedy, but not, in my mind, particularly representative of our country.

Fleetwoodmark · #27 01-10-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mezzoforte

It only takes one psychopath, and they exist everywhere in the world. Obviously, the majority of Americans don't go to the market and shoot people in the head either.
I guess I'm surprised that this would reflect on America--a deeply horrifying tragedy, but not, in my mind, particularly representative of our country.

Yeah, don't get me wrong It wasn't a dig

I suppose it's the amount of times it's happened in America that makes the difference.

FMlex · #28 01-10-2011, 05:19 PM

Wouldn't be the liberal media if they didn't come out during this time of tragedy and blame the conservatives and Republicans. Absolutely sickening.

nailatixela · #29 01-10-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FMlex

Wouldn't be the liberal media if they didn't come out during this time of tragedy and blame the conservatives and Republicans. Absolutely sickening.

The Tea Party Nation group actually was the first to come out and emphasize the point that the blame needs to be put on the "liberal lunatics." I don't think it's appropriate to place much speculation or blame so early on. It's important to talk about why violence in our politics are wrong, that's for sure.

And there isn't such a thing as the liberal media outside of MSNBC. But I haven't seen the blame game going on there, either. Fox pushes everyone to the right. That includes their competition (ABC, CBS, CNN) and their viewers. Corporations own the news media, and corporations are conservative/republican by nature.

vermicious knid · #30 01-10-2011, 05:38 PM

Giffords shooter fired 31 rounds

That settles it. He was limited to the amount of bullets he could shoot without having to reload. Conceivably he could have bought a fifteen-year-old piece of equipment even if the 1994 law were still in effect, because it banned the sale of new magazines with greater than 10 rounds. But it seems very possible that if the law had been renewed in 2004, today there would not be 20 lives inalterably affected, and 20 families devastated.