Album Speculation

[Meowi]

When did Dave star marketing for his album? What is the time between release and marketing?
I think that Dave's and Stevie's album will have similar marketing.

[UndoingTheLaces]

I for one am excited about Annabell Lee. I love the demo and if Dave keeps that little guitar chord at the end it will be the heart and soul of the music for that track. Three chords can make or break a song and I just love that little bit under Stevie singing "I lie down... by the side... of my darling".

I always thought that Stevie had a little bit of a goth style to her. The long black dresses, singing about witches and stars and visions and her poetic nature. I think doing Annabell Lee would be the perfect compliment to songs like Sisters of the Moon and Sorcerer.

[silvasprings]

Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces

I for one am excited about Annabell Lee. I love the demo and if Dave keeps that little guitar chord at the end it will be the heart and soul of the music for that track. Three chords can make or break a song and I just love that little bit under Stevie singing "I lie down... by the side... of my darling".

I always thought that Stevie had a little bit of a goth style to her. The long black dresses, singing about witches and stars and visions and her poetic nature. I think doing Annabell Lee would be the perfect compliment to songs like Sisters of the Moon and Sorcerer.

I feel exactly like you do, I know there is alot of dislike for Annabell Lee but i personally like it, the demo is very Stevie-ish and I'm sure with some studio magic it will be a great song.

I love the part where she sings "And the moon never beams... without bringing me dreams" it just works with Stevie's little romanticist world

[APerfectLie]

Originally Posted by DallasDude

While she is still under contract, I don't expect too much mass marketing from Warner Bros. They just don't promote older artists (regardless of popularity) like they did 10-20 years ago.

If they really do like the music or a specific song, I can see them using a snippet in a film, a movie trailer, or one of there many TV shows as a way to promote it. Also, fringe and older artists are often featured on the radio "stations" you hear in movie theaters now, so you may hear a song being played at your favorite multiplex. Chances of hearing her on pop radio are almost nil, but maybe on AAA or country (if indeed she has a country-tinged song on this CD.)

Because she does have a name and will be touring, I still expect her to pop-up on the TV chat shows, and to get print press as she travels from city to city. Overall CD sales will be 500,000 or less, even if she does have a hit.

I don't know about that, it only took TISL six weeks to hit 500,000. I think just of who she is, she will sell more than 500,000 in the first year, but sales will drop greatly after that.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by silvasprings

I feel exactly like you do, I know there is alot of dislike for Annabell Lee but i personally like it, the demo is very Stevie-ish and I'm sure with some studio magic it will be a great song.

I love the part where she sings "And the moon never beams... without bringing me dreams" it just works with Stevie's little romanticist world

I LOVE THAT PART TOO! that and the way she sings sun-ne-va shines ....till i see the bright eyes.. it sounds SO Stevie to me. I love it.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by APerfectLie

I don't know about that, it only took TISL six weeks to hit 500,000. I think just of who she is, she will sell more than 500,000 in the first year, but sales will drop greatly after that.

Check out Billboard Magazine. Even the most popular current artists aren't seeing numbers like these. Stevie will be lucky to even sell 100,000 copies.

[APerfectLie]

Originally Posted by vivfox

Check out Billboard Magazine. Even the most popular current artists aren't seeing numbers like these. Stevie will be lucky to even sell 100,000 copies.

Taylor Swift's new album sold over a million albums in its first week. Susan Boyle just sold over 305,000. And most artists are pulling off sales of over 100,000-200,000 a week. I think it is completely plausible to believe that Stevie will sell 500K in a year. I believe many current artists have a hard time selling albums because of their fan base. Their fans are a bunch of young adults and teens who love illegally downloading music. Their albums always seem to leak and also highly spread across the internet and downloaded by millions. Stevie's fan base is much smaller, so leaked versions aren't likely before its release, and after the release, there will not be an abundant number of torrents of her new album nor that many people looking to illegally download it. Also, with Limewire being shut down, illegal downloads have become even more difficult. So I have high confidence that our woman's new album will reach gold status within a year.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by APerfectLie

I don't know about that, it only took TISL six weeks to hit 500,000. I think just of who she is, she will sell more than 500,000 in the first year, but sales will drop greatly after that.

That was a decade ago. The record industry has changed more in the past 10 years than it probably has in 50. On top of that, Stevie's not kept herself in the media limelight by regularly releasing new material with or without the Mac this past decade. She's totally fumbled all the good will and forward movement The Dance laid on her table. Sadly, if Fleetwood Mac's most recent album couldn't even make Platinum 8 years ago, there's pretty much no chance Stevie's new album will even hit Gold today.

However, there is a possibility if the new album's good, it'll receive critical acclaim... and if I'm feeling drunkenly optimistic, possibly earn Stevie her first solo Grammy. Since The Dance, Stevie seems to slowly be gaining more and more critical respect. She was such a joke amongst critics for so long... even during the height of her career. But that all started to change with The Dance. And big stars have been coming out of the Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks closet ever since. And in recent years, the Recording Academy has been smiling on veteran artists... especially ones releasing milestone albums. 30 years since her first album/10 years since her last album makes for nice round numbers.

Honestly, Stevie's had Platinum selling albums in her past, #1 hits, etc. What would truly vindicate me as a Stevie fan would be for her to earn her first solo Grammy. Even though I don't think much of the Grammy's, it would signal once and for all that she's respected. And at this point in the game, that means much more to me than sales.

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

That was a decade ago. The record industry has changed more in the past 10 years than it probably has in 50. On top of that, Stevie's not kept herself in the media limelight by regularly releasing new material with or without the Mac this past decade. She's totally fumbled all the good will and forward movement The Dance laid on her table. Sadly, if Fleetwood Mac's most recent album couldn't even make Platinum 8 years ago, there's pretty much no chance Stevie's new album will even hit Gold today.

However, there is a possibility if the new album's good, it'll receive critical acclaim... and if I'm feeling drunkenly optimistic, possibly earn Stevie her first solo Grammy. Since The Dance, Stevie seems to slowly be gaining more and more critical respect. She was such a joke amongst critics for so long... even during the height of her career. But that all started to change with The Dance. And big stars have been coming out of the Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks closet ever since. And in recent years, the Recording Academy has been smiling on veteran artists... especially ones releasing milestone albums. 30 years since her first album/10 years since her last album makes for nice round numbers.

Honestly, Stevie's had Platinum selling albums in her past, #1 hits, etc. What would truly vindicate me as a Stevie fan would be for her to earn her first solo Grammy. Even though I don't think much of the Grammy's, it would signal once and for all that she's respected. And at this point in the game, that means much more to me than sales.

Totally agree about the squandered potential. She needed to get another couple of albums out not to have gotten lost in the public eye.

[Fleetwoodmark]

500,000 copies would be a result and would on the whole be seen as a success !

Lindsey's upcoming album on the other hand might see less significant sales.

[vivfox]

louielouie2000, I believe Stevie has already won several Grammy's. They just occured off screen. I could be wrong, but I may be right.

[Nikolaj]

^ I also thought she won a solo Grammy, but I was wrong. I admit that I had smoked a joint during the telecast, but I swear that I saw 'Stevie Nicks:Live At Red Rocks' flash across the screen as winner of 'Best Music Video- Long Form' when a large group of Grammy winners were listed, written across the tv screen all during one segment of the telecast- (Awards that had been given off air). Turns out U2 won that year, and not Stevie.
I still think it happened that way on the live telecast, stoned or not. But she didn't win.
Maybe the nominees also had been 'flashed' on the tv screen along with the winner, but I doubt it. And yes, the 'Red Rocks' video release was nominated for a Grammy!

[DallasDude]

I agree that critical acclaim and recognition would be most fitting at this stage in her long career. If indeed it is a standout CD, some of the music will most likely find it's way into the public sector, i.e., some radio airplay and used in other entertainment ways.

If the CD is a real killer, I'd love to see her tour playing mostly new tunes and seldom performed songs, with just 2-3 of the solo classics thrown-in the mix. Most likely the Mac will do another greatest hits tour, but I don't really see them doing another full CD of music. Maybe 2-3 new songs and that's it, or they may take some of the music from Buckingham/Nicks and update that into the Mac tour (since without Christine in the mix, the Mac now is essentially a redux BN anyways!)

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by greendaze5

I hope the artwork for the album will be as nice as that for 'TISL' - meaning I hope Stevie doesn't leave it all up to her 'talented' brother Christopher.

He made a boring mess of 'Street Angel' (not to mention the gawd-awful tourbooks of late) .

Note to Stevie: Hire PROFESSIONALS, not family!

Yes! "Chris...step away from the design...step far away..."

I do hope the artwork is stellar, with a simple elegance to it. As far the music goes, I hope the production makes the songs sound timeless in a style that won't sound dated a decade later.

[silvasprings]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I LOVE THAT PART TOO! that and the way she sings sun-ne-va shines ....till i see the bright eyes.. it sounds SO Stevie to me. I love it.

It's very awesomely Stevie!!! I'm just dying for this album to come out!!!