‘The Other Side of the Mirror’- likes and dislikes (what are yours?)

[starshine]

Originally Posted by petep9000

Is it possible to post without using so many ellipses? I would seriously read your posts because they seem to have a lot of thought, but the constant dot dot dot makes them exhausting to read.

So SORRY I didn't know I was offending anyone before. NO one has said anything about it anymore. I'll stop it than.

[DashingDan]

Originally Posted by starshine

So SORRY I didn't know I was offending anyone before. NO one has said anything about it anymore. I'll stop it than.

I don't think you're offending anyone. It's just very difficult to read. Please, post away!

[starshine]

Originally Posted by DashingDan

& for pete 9000/I don't think you're offending anyone. It's just very difficult to read. Please, post away!

Well I've been typing this way for yrs now and this is the first I've ever heard it before. I didn't think anyone read my comments anyway. They always seem to be over looked. At least IMO. I'm sorry. Everyone has different ways of expressing themselves I only did the (...) to mean that theres 'always' more to say its a never ending 'statement. I've stopped doing it but out of 'habit' it could happen again. So if it does and I don't catch myself before hand I'm very sorry. I didn't think it was hard to read. I don't like alot of the flash pictures that people have had over the yrs but never said anything. There maybe alot I don't like but I'm not out to offend anyone. It is what it is. Plus my name is Sue not David. Its at the end of my posts in case you need to know my name.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by starshine

Well I've been typing this way for yrs now and this is the first I've ever heard it before.

I didn't think anyone read my comments anyway.

They always seem to be over looked. I don't like alot of the flash pictures that people have had over the yrs but never said anything.

I always read what you write. I was only bothered when you used to always write, "missed oppurtunities."

What are flash pictures? Do you mean gif's?

One more thing-and I say this to be helpful, not critical-everytime you write the word than, it should be then, and everytime you write then, it should be than. I've noticed this in your writing for a long time now.

I like to learn from my mistakes. I am always teachable, if you or anyone else thinks I need help in the writing dept. I recently helped another Ledgie decipher the difference between the words affect and effect.

[mitzo]

Vivfox who is that in the Calvin Klein skivvies and why hasn't he taken just one more step out of the water. Huh?

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by mitzo

Vivfox who is that in the Calvin Klein skivvies and why hasn't he taken just one more step out of the water. Huh?

His name is Keston Karter and this is his Myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/kestonkarter

[jannieC]

Originally Posted by vivfox

I recently helped another Ledgie decipher the difference between the words affect and effect.

This is my weakness. I usually just say "impact" instead. I have always struggled with this one and it's gotten worse because I now usually see the word "affect" with the stress being on the first syllable or a noun (i.e. "flat affect").

I'd like to think I'm fairly well spoken. A friend of mine recently corrected me grammatically and I was so appalled. Apparently, if you begin a sentence with, "If it..." you should use the word "WERE" instead of "WAS." Example, "If it were up to me, I would be a millionaire." I had no idea! There's no telling how times I have said "If it was up to me..."

Starshine, the ellipses were hard to read for me too and I really appreciate your effort in writing differently. You have some wonderful things to say. I don't know why it was hard to read, but it was.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by petep9000

Is it possible to post without using so many ellipses? I would seriously read your posts because they seem to have a lot of thought, but the constant dot dot dot makes them exhausting to read.

I've adressed that issue with her in past posts. She makes interesting points and has great perspective and knowledge . Unfortunately her "style" of presentation/train of thought is insanely unreadable and unwelcoming.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by tilthefirefades

Opinions can definitely change. I thought that RAL was the worst thing ever, and I had listened to it many times all the way through. Just recently however, it has become one of my favorites! On the same token, I used to love WH, but slowly over this past year I have started to detest it

Isn't it funny how that happens? I was confused and had some disdain for Rock a Little when it first came out. When The Other Side of the Mirror came out, I felt relief that she was a bit back to center. I thought the songs were better written.

It's interesting to see how some people lothe The Other Side of the Mirror album, while others like it. Oddly, that speaks well of her artistry: that she can be so polorizing as to have such a disparate impact. That is what great artists seek; what they don't want is indifference.

I guess I'm more forgiving in how I view her albums/songs now. I favor/value different ones at different times. Somewhat similar to people -- even though they may flawed and hard to deal with, I find something to appreciate in them.

[baboles]

I just pulled this album out tonight while I was exercising. I looked at the cover and noticed how beautiful it really was. Probably my second favorite album cover from her.

I decided to play it while working out and despite the lack of enthusiasm in Stevie's voice, the album really does have some magical moments.

"Rooms On Fire" is simply beautiful with it's heartfelt and enchanting lyrics.It gives off such a wonderful atmosphere.

Favorite Line: This entire verse..."She had trusted many/And then there would be someone who would enter into her presence/That she could sense for miles/She dreamed of her wanton luxury/And she laughed and she cried...and she tried to taunt him/And he hated to be separated/From that picture...No..."

"Long Way To Go" is a pretty solid rocker.

Favorite Line: "High in my life...obsessive was my love."

"Two Kinds of Love" can get a little annoying at times. I have to be in the mood for it.

Favorite Line: "Well I talked to my famous friend last night/My third day up...well, his second nighter."

"Ooh My Love" is pure magic! Such beautiful imagery!

Favorite Line: "Hey, hey, baby...No one can take you away from me...no...no one..."

"Ghosts" is well...well...I always skip it. zzzzzzzz

"Whole Lotta Trouble" tries to be a solid rock tune, but in fails miserably. That whole changing your mind every minute/second/minute/second/second/minute really gets old.

"Fire Burning" has its moments. I hate the cheesy opening when she randomly sings "Burning..." but enjoy it when she gets to "So cry for me...take a little time...and then stop/It's just something that you cannot see...so stop!" and I also enjoy "I will...you know/So I take it to the limit."

"Cry Wolf" is another one I always skip.

"Alice" is a favorite of mine! The only thing I don't like is the very beginning when you hear her go "Oooooooooooh". Everything else is magic!

Favorite Line: THE ENTIRE SONG!

"Juliet" is ok for the most part. The "wild" version she did for the Tango sessions was MUCH better!

Favorite Line: This entire verse..."Turn to the blue crystal mirror...well as always it is truthful/Oh, well you see it in the reflection of the real blue lamp/Well tie the connection...get some ribbons and some bows...get back out on the road/
But when they were good...they were really good...really good stranger."

"Doing the Best That I Can" is dark, lovely, mysterious, and another highlight for me. The piano version on youtube is way better though. I love all the lyrics for this one.

"I Still Miss Someone" is another one I skip.

[Dodfather]

Originally Posted by AliceLover

Lots of people b*tch that she doesn't tour Europe. It is because OSOTM was the only album that did anything in Europe.

Sorry, I have to take up this point. Yes, this is the only album of hers that sold substantially in Europe but that doesn't mean she shouldn't tour here any more. Perhaps if she put a bit of work into places other than the US or Australasia her sales figures would improve. Older fans would maybe not buy the new album unless they were going to see her live - which the would definitely do because they know her older stuff. She simply has not kept her profile or momentum up anywhere other than the US (which in itself hasn't been done to any great degree).

It would be interesting to compare the sales of her solo records in Australia and New Zealand, where she consistently tours, to all of Europe where she never bothers any more. I bet that the European sales figures would be far more substantial. Of course this could be because Europe is just larger (!) but even so, they would be better, and yet she still refuses to tour anywhere in Europe at all?! Come on Stevie - reward your fans with some live dates. Before people jump up and down, I'm not just meaning the UK.

As for The Other Side Of The Mirror, I really like the album if I'm in the right mood. Favourites include Rooms On Fire, Long Way To Go, Alice, Juliet. Quite like Fire Burning and Cry Wolf too. Whole Lotta Trouble is good but odd - it doesn't sound like anything else on the record with that brass section etc.

Not so keen on Two Kinds Of Love (BAD single choice) which is a shame because I love Bruce Hornsby but in my opinion it just doesn't work. Why oh why did she work with Kenny G?! No Stevie, no! By far the worst song on there though is I Still Miss Someone (Blue Eyes). I think it could well be the worst song she has ever officially released (yes, worse than Jane!) which is a real shame because we know Stevie can sing country and I love it when she does, but she just hasn't done it as well as she did on Bella Donna. The 80s production on this Cash tune though, just no.

[starshine]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

I've adressed that issue with her in past posts. She makes interesting points and has great perspective and knowledge . Unfortunately her "style" of presentation/train of thought is insanely unreadable and unwelcoming.

I'm very very very sorry that my so called 'style' of writing has bothered so many people here. Maybe my posts aren't needed anymore. Maybe I'll just read more than post.

[TerraRhiannon]

Originally Posted by starshine

I'm very very very sorry that my so called 'style' of writing has bothered so many people here. Maybe my posts aren't needed anymore. Maybe I'll just read more than post.

I read your posts! Don't worry, it didn't really bother me that much. I thought it was funny you used that many dots, but it's all good

[CreepingDeath]

Originally Posted by TerraRhiannon

I read your posts! Don't worry, it didn't really bother me that much. I thought it was funny you used that many dots, but it's all good

It doesn't really bother me, either.

[johnnystorms]

Originally Posted by Dodfather

Sorry, I have to take up this point. Yes, this is the only album of hers that sold substantially in Europe but that doesn't mean she shouldn't tour here any more. Perhaps if she put a bit of work into places other than the US or Australasia her sales figures would improve. Older fans would maybe not buy the new album unless they were going to see her live - which the would definitely do because they know her older stuff. She simply has not kept her profile or momentum up anywhere other than the US (which in itself hasn't been done to any great degree).

It would be interesting to compare the sales of her solo records in Australia and New Zealand, where she consistently tours, to all of Europe where she never bothers any more. I bet that the European sales figures would be far more substantial. Of course this could be because Europe is just larger (!) but even so, they would be better, and yet she still refuses to tour anywhere in Europe at all?! Come on Stevie - reward your fans with some live dates. Before people jump up and down, I'm not just meaning the UK.

As for The Other Side Of The Mirror, I really like the album if I'm in the right mood. Favourites include Rooms On Fire, Long Way To Go, Alice, Juliet. Quite like Fire Burning and Cry Wolf too. Whole Lotta Trouble is good but odd - it doesn't sound like anything else on the record with that brass section etc.

Not so keen on Two Kinds Of Love (BAD single choice) which is a shame because I love Bruce Hornsby but in my opinion it just doesn't work. Why oh why did she work with Kenny G?! No Stevie, no! By far the worst song on there though is I Still Miss Someone (Blue Eyes). I think it could well be the worst song she has ever officially released (yes, worse than Jane!) which is a real shame because we know Stevie can sing country and I love it when she does, but she just hasn't done it as well as she did on Bella Donna. The 80s production on this Cash tune though, just no.

i hate to introduce a political comment to the Ledge, but maybe she doesn;t tour Europe because of the tax rate. if nothing else, Stevie's management knows how to watch her money!