This week has been the biggest embarrasment!

jeffs · #1 04-25-2003, 08:29 AM

I am speechless - I want to say so many things about what I think went wrong this week - I do not know where to begin. It is like this band lives in vaccuum. Even my 7 year old daughter asked me what is wrong with their voices and what is Stevie wearing and doing with her hands. They can't tell that Peacekeeper is a big bust and a horrible live song? Stevie doesn't have a VCR and can't see that her outfit looks like hell. Lindsey can't hear his voice? I've done nothing but talk about these people and this band every day, acting as their Central NJ PR officer since the Dance aired on VH1 and I have watched them erase a 30 year image in one week. Wow this sucks!!

nae · #2 04-25-2003, 08:43 AM

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Originally posted by jeffs
I am speechless - I want to say so many things about what I think went wrong this week - I do not know where to begin. It is like this band lives in vaccuum. Even my 7 year old daughter asked me what is wrong with their voices and what is Stevie wearing and doing with her hands. They can't tell that Peacekeeper is a big bust and a horrible live song? Stevie doesn't have a VCR and can't see that her outfit looks like hell. Lindsey can't hear his voice? I've done nothing but talk about these people and this band every day, acting as their Central NJ PR officer since the Dance aired on VH1 and I have watched them erase a 30 year image in one week. Wow this sucks!!

Oh my gosh, your 7year old said that? I figured we were all being a bit too hard on them, but if your daughter said that then I guess it must be true (kids don't lie) Huh.

Renee

sulamith · #3 04-25-2003, 08:57 AM

If read what I wrote in "now we Know" thread, you see I feel the same way.

What is going on with them?

It's like something is really wrong.

And it's not the sound mix.

And it's not the acoustics.

And it's not the cold.

And it's not the back-up singers, or the wind, ortheir nerves.

What is going on? I do feel last night was better, but I still have an ever-increasing ball dread in the pit of my stomach.

I really want it to go away. I am not about to stop beleiveing they can blow us away, but the wait is killing me.

-Sharon

Wayne2 · #4 04-25-2003, 10:29 AM

They're really starting to look their age. It's hard to believe this is the same group from The Dance.

It's a shame too, because the album has a lot of good material on it. (despite it being too long).

I really think Lindsey did a great job producing the album, but it seems a lot of it will go unnoticed because they keep performing these boring ass tracks live

bootylicous · #5 04-25-2003, 11:10 AM

At first I was really bummed that the Mac isn't coming to Canada again on this tour (Wayne maybe you'll agree with me), and I thought I'd just have to be happy with the album, but each time I see a TV performance I feel a little less like I'm going to be missing something great, and more like I'm missing out on a half-assed cash-grab by the band. I don't know what's wrong with them either, but something ain't right!

Evan (PS I hate Stevie's new dress too, LOL)

gypsysara · #6 04-25-2003, 11:10 AM

When my Dad told me my namesake was "sounding off" I knew they really werent sounding good. For my Dad to comment to me like that about the 'Mac...

Well I sure hope things come 'round but..

Wayne2 · #7 04-25-2003, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by bootylicous
At first I was really bummed that the Mac isn't coming to Canada again on this tour (Wayne maybe you'll agree with me), and I thought I'd just have to be happy with the album, but each time I see a TV performance I feel a little less like I'm going to be missing something great,

my thoughts exact

John Run · #8 04-25-2003, 11:24 AM

It is not a half assed cash grab. Yes, they are going to make money. However I remind you they spent in excess of 18 months recording a album of new material. A lot of new material. I laugh when they are being ridiculed for making an album too long. The more songs the better even if they are not all great. Most bands with their track record are living off greatest hits packages and reunion tours.

As for you Jeffs. You have NEVER posted a postive message about the band. You were quiet for a while when I exposed your LIE about NYC dj's bashing peacekeeper. Now you have started up again. Yeah, you don't like Peacekeeper. Fact is the song sits at #11 on the billboard AC chart this week and # 4 on the RR Adult Alternative Airplay charts. Fact is some people like it and it has given them more airplay than any song since Little Lies and that includes Silver Springs. Fine don't like Peacekeeper, but it seems obvious that you find little value in the truth and great enjoyment in creating an invisible army of others who support your the false venom you spout. I think you relish the negative and and cherish the thought of bringing others down to your dark place.

The performances this week have been okay. So many have built this band into some sort of giant demi-gog like entity. They play Rock and Roll. Sometimes they play great, sometimes okay once in a while they blow it. Enjoy it if you want to. The other choice is to ignore the current chapter in their career and listen to the parts that made you a fan.

sulamith · #9 04-25-2003, 11:27 AM

And that is my concern exactly, that people will pass on the tour and CD because of what they are seeing on TV. It's all about perception, ya'll.

I am saying negative things because I think they are washed up, they are far from it!

They just are not putting their best foot forward, and they are going to have to be DELUXE top-notch to pull this off.

I am frustrated because I know how great they are, and i want to see it.

-Sharon

sulamith · #10 04-25-2003, 11:29 AM

CRAP MAJOR TYPO ABOVE!!

I meant to say i am saying negative thing NOT because i think they are washed up!

Shoot

John Run · #11 04-25-2003, 11:34 AM

I know they have performed better, but I do think it is not horrendous. Also people are not turning away from them.

The tour is 85% of capacity. Any two city site has one date at 95% capacity at least. Their new album debuted at #3 selling 20,000 more copies than the Dance did in its first week.

Sharon- I knew what you meant say even with the typo.....

SmthngOfADreamr · #12 04-25-2003, 11:34 AM

I think a lot of us are being hypercritical becasue we know they can do better, not because we have built them up to any status that they are not. I have about 50 + videos in my collection that offer concrete evidence that they are better than what we have seen this past week. It's not even so much that they're bad, for me it's more that they come accross as not even trying to do their best.

bucklind17 · #13 04-25-2003, 11:50 AM

I'm hesitant in basing all my opinions on these few television appearances. Television can mess with performances, I know that some of my other favorite bands have choked on a live TV just because it's a weird and unnatural setting. I'm a huge fan of REM and their TV appearances were less than impressive in recent years, yet I saw them live and they kicked ass. The sad thing is that the public DOES base their opinions on what they see on television. I have a friend who is a Broadway actor, and... well, to put it nicely, his performance on national television over Thanksgiving was less than perfect. Despite the fact that he has proven himself on the stage, THAT performance is still brought up by some to prove some of his weaknesses. So it really is unfortunate that these FM appearances aren't living up to our expectations, because it is probably turning off people who don't follow the band that much. But hopefully they don't speak for how every live performance in a concert setting will be. I like to think of them more as live, concert people anyway and would think they are definitely more comfortable in front of a crowd than in front of a camera.

chiliD · #14 04-25-2003, 12:05 PM

The worse they sound on TV, the more people they'll turn off going to concerts, leaving seats open for ME to occupy.

Mad4stevie · #15 04-25-2003, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by SmthngOfADreamr
I think a lot of us are being hypercritical becasue we know they can do better, not because we have built them up to any status that they are not. I have about 50 + videos in my collection that offer concrete evidence that they are better than what we have seen this past week. It's not even so much that they're bad, for me it's more that they come accross as not even trying to do their best.

Exactly!! I watched some of my old videos of their performances and was stunned by how much better they sounded. Even during their coked out days - so I don't know what to make of that! This morning I pulled out my 1975 tour video and was completely astounded at how tight their harmonies were then. Of course, you can't expect them to be the same now, but you can expect that Lindsey and Stevie should at least be able to harmonize with each other, which has been difficult for them lately.