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Old 08-20-2010, 01:52 AM
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I've been meaning to bring this up.

A "Wall of Shame"? Really? I mean..... REALLY?! I mean it's one thing to care enough about "internet people" to outwardly express "hatred" of them and it's another to publicize your lack of a life as much as possible....
I agree. if its true theres a "wall of shame" that is about the most pathetic thing Ive ever heard of in 5 years here.
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Old 08-20-2010, 01:56 AM
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WOW!! There's never a dull day on the Ledge, is there?!!

I have to say, I would be so beyond pissed if someone wrote something like that, included my name in it, and publicized it without my permission...and believe me, they'd know it. That's just not right

Regardless, I hope everyone going to the remaining shows have a fabulous time. Stevie sure seems to be doing us proud

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Old 08-20-2010, 04:20 AM
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Whoopsie! It appears we are now having shenanigans, doesn't it? Sweet!

I'm glad so many of you are going to get together before the show to wang chung tonight and all of that good stuff, because that certainly sounds like Good Times, but those of you that are attending and getting angry at the rest of us that were raising valid points about the oddness of that press release really need to sit back and take a deep breath here.

No one was attacking Arlene. We were examining a press release that Viv posted and pointing out some of the problems we were having with it. If any attacking was going on, then it was just us "attacking" a bad press release. Not a specific person.

Unless we count me mentioning that reading it was physically painful on account of it was so badly written as "attacking" the writer, I mean. Because, in that case, then I totally was. And I would do it again, too, because that shizz offends my tender professional sensibilities in a multitude of ways.

But things didn't start getting personally nasty until some of y'all attendees had a kneejerk "ZOMG TEH HATERZEZ BE ALL HATIN!1!!!111one!eleventyone!!1" reaction. I don't condone personally nasty (unless it's me doing it, of course. Because that's different - I do it all for the lulz), but accusing people of teh hatin' for having valid opinions that just happen to disagree with yours is poor form, chaps. Poor form indeed.

Anyway, y'all say that the press release was written without your knowledge and it's misrepresenting you - well, fair enough. That totally sucks, and I am sorry someone did that to you. But none of us did that to you. As it so happens, none of us had anything other than the press release to go on regarding this event, and you have to admit that based on how it's written alone, it just doesn't sound good. At all. But you need to be pissed off at the person that wrote that without your permission and made y'all look bad, NOT at the people merely pointing out that it's making y'all look bad.

Because that press release IS making you look bad. And at this point, I have to say that spazzing out on us is not helping you look any better.
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:56 AM
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And now a separate post from the above, to address specific people, so if anyone decides I'm hatin,' then we'll all be absolutely certain who I'm hatin' on.

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Hey Girlfriend- Thanks so much for the sweet words, as I can't agree more... I'm SO glad that I had someone call me to tell me about this on the Ledge, so I could come on here and answer questions. Not one of us were asked for a "consent" to "OK' this letter being put out anywhere, and none of us had any idea that this sort of thing would even be put out to the public, as all it was - was a fb page started by a friend of ours. Not sure what they were trying to achieve, nor why they chose whatever they chose, and yes, this is totally "against" anything that the people she mentioned in the letter, were about! All we are after is a great get together with a lot of people coming from all over the place to finally meet each other, and it seems this person, or people took this and put a "Glorified" slant to it, which NONE of us are about! We're just basically out to have a blast and meet other fans! No "VIP" no Glorified anything - No "needing a pass" to come, just plain old, good fashioned fan get-together - period! You summed it up beautifully, and I thank you SO much for the sweet post~
I can totally dig that. I think you need to have a talk with whoever wrote that thing, because, like it or not, it is a BAD thing. I would intensely dislike having my full name associated with something that's been painted in such a light, particularly in relation to a fandom that I hold so dear - because once stuff is on the Internet, it's there forever. What's more, any PR person worth his/her salt keeps an eye out for what is being said about his/her clients, and the idea of any of Stevie's people reading that thing is really depressing.

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Arlene, it's pathetic people are attacking you like this. Anyways, love you and Sara - see you next Friday! xoxox
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WE didn't write the press release. The individual who wrote it did it without any of our knowledge, and had NO RIGHT to do it. Arlene would never exploit Pat's death, or anything for that matter. You're sadly misinformed, and obviously don't know Arlene if you'd even consider that she would do that. So, stop making yourself look like an ignorant moron and shut up.
y u mad

Whether or not someone would actually exploit a friend's death in real life is not really the issue here. The issue is that the press release is written in such a way as to suggest that someone is doing just that. You can't expect everyone that reads that thing to magically be aware of the true intent behind anything mentioned therein. All a reader has to go on is what it says.

Y'know, kinda like all I have to go on about you is what you say - and judging from that, you like to fly off the handle, call names when no name-calling is necessary, kinda fail at reading comprehension, deny bacon's status as the world's most perfect food, think Stryper is the best band to ever grace the airwaves, and probably also hate freedom.

I mean, I could be wrong about all that. In fact, I sincerely hope I'm wrong (especially the part about Stryper, because omg), but sadly, I can only go based off of what you say and how you say it, as I do not yet have the power to read minds.

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Arlene, the ones predictably attacking you are the ones I already happily have on "IGNORE".

I wish y'all all the best and have so much fun!!!!! Rock a little!!!!!
Damn. I hate being predictable, especially when it makes other people happy.

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Arlene, im not on the wall of shame am i?
I hope I am! I always wanted to have my picture on a wall somewhere. It would make me feel validated as a person, which is very important to my self-esteem and other important brain things.
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Old 08-20-2010, 05:00 AM
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can i get on the wall of shaming just by LOLing at this thread? because i did.
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Old 08-20-2010, 05:05 AM
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WE didn't write the press release. The individual who wrote it did it without any of our knowledge, and had NO RIGHT to do it. Arlene would never exploit Pat's death, or anything for that matter. You're sadly misinformed, and obviously don't know Arlene if you'd even consider that she would do that. So, stop making yourself look like an ignorant moron and shut up.
"i disagree with the so-called haters' behavior so much, i am going to call them names."

i only wish you had spelled "moron" wrong. that would have made my night.


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Old 08-20-2010, 05:24 AM
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I've been meaning to bring this up.

A "Wall of Shame"? Really? I mean..... REALLY?! I mean it's one thing to care enough about "internet people" to outwardly express "hatred" of them and it's another to publicize your lack of a life as much as possible....

since when?
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Old 08-20-2010, 06:42 AM
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I agree. if its true theres a "wall of shame" that is about the most pathetic thing Ive ever heard of in 5 years here.
if this is indeed true i have to say it's very childish~ what are we in middle school?~ my son is 11 & acts more mature than this~
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Old 08-20-2010, 06:56 AM
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Nobody famous. Just your average everyday hottie. Did you think so too?
In a thug, macho, urban kinda way. Way too young for my tastes though.
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Old 08-20-2010, 08:12 AM
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I've known several of the people on here longer than you realize, thanks. SHE didn't run the 'Wall of Shame', I know who did though... the person who ran it isn't even on here as far as I know. The reason that group is invitation only is so that morons like you and Dani don't join. Some people on here DO post for attention, and lie about it too. If Arlene was (and she isn't) posting for attention at least she'd never LIE about it. Once again, to those of us who actually know what's going on, you look like an ignorant moron. also, learn how to spell ridicule.

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I might be a moron, but I am not ignorant when it comes to the personalities on this board. Your join date was a month ago... mine was a decade ago. There are but a handful of people who still post here who have a join date older than mine. I know just what certain people do for attention, I've watched it for a LONG time. I know all about Arlene's "By Invitation Only" Facebook club. I know about the "Wall Of Shame," where she posts people's pictures who have differing opinions from her, and y'all riducle them as a group. Very, very high school for a woman of her age. Arlene only comes here when she wants attention and to drop a nuclear bomb. Her "sweetness" is purely an act. The sooner you realize that, the better.

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Old 08-20-2010, 08:14 AM
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can i get on the wall of shaming just by LOLing at this thread? because i did.
The 'wall of shame' has actually been down for a while. haha
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Old 08-20-2010, 08:53 AM
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That didn't take long. It did get ugly. Such senses of entitlement and all.
No-one attacked any one person specifically originally or even knew there was a Ledge member involved. Viv pointed it out to us.
I don't know any of the Ledge members, but I don't like to read of anyone calling the clearly intelligent Danielle a liar and worse, or the male Zombie 'Girlfriend'.
The personal attacks began when friends of 'Arlene'- who none of us even knew was involved til Viv alluded to a Ledgie, and she replied- got all self-righteous.
They couldn't handle the valid points brought up that the seeking of media coverage is just tacky. No one ever said not to get together. That's great. A moderator quite clearly pointed that out, and it got ignored, that the tasteless part is the 'press release'.
It's revealing when people old enough to be parents or grandparents of an enthusiastic young fan insult her to try to hang on to their right to get glorification.
If anyone, Arlene or otherwise, says 'I knew nothing about it'- well, you know now.
Call it off, if you're so mortified. Have your good time without the self-serving invitation for media coverage.
You know, a press release, even a bad one, is revokable. So, why not take the high road? All that would be needed is to issue a brief statement that due to confused circumstances, the press release had incorrect information and the request for media to attend is withdrawn. Period.
Get together for yourselves and have a great time without trying to get media attention by using the name of Stevie Nicks without her permission and consider yourselves fortunate you did not get a standard 'cease and desist' letter from the performer's attorneys. It has happened. Believe it or not.

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Who wrote this press release? Viv, how did you get it?

Melanie Dale-Kerns, Agent Joshua-Paul Angell?


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I don't know any of the Ledge members, but I don't like to read of anyone calling the male Zombie 'Girlfriend'.
Wait! Zombie is a dude? AAAAArgh! I'm so confused!
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Old 08-20-2010, 10:51 AM
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bacon would make ice cream better. truth!
There is bacon ice cream out there. I find it at the local farmer's market.
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