I’m sooooo afraid….

[SapphireSister]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

You know I meant "you're on the other side of the mirror" as a term of endearment and an utterly high compliment, right?

I only took it as such darling and thank you for the high compliment .

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Anyway, to wrap up this overly long rambling: moral of the story is- regardless if Stevie hands us treasure or a turd with the new album, we'll all still be here... critiquing, hashing it out, same as always! Sad, ain't it?!?

Sad but true. She will always be the poet in my heart and goddess of my soul and my heart is racing right now because I'm going to be seeing her in a matter of hours!!!

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Anyway, to wrap up this overly long rambling: moral of the story is- regardless if Stevie hands us treasure or a turd with the new album, we'll all still be here... critiquing, hashing it out, same as always! Sad, ain't it?!?

Right. For the past five or so years, I felt that she would never record an album of new material again. So at least that's a plus that there IS an album.

And I agree with Jake's sentiment earlier -- I hope her lead single isn't an "Every Day." She won't top the charts regardless, but I want her to show she's better than that.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

I really feel that at this time in her life, after this many years of working - we should all be grateful for any music she chooses to give us. I'd rather have an album with some crappy songs I don't like, and a few that I'll love forever instead of no album at all, and I guess it really surprises me that any fan would

See? I'm completely on the other side of that fence. Like Def Leppard once sang: "It's better to burn out than to fade away!" Pro athletes know when it's time to hang up their jerseys. Grace Slick knew when it was time for her to stop singing. Greta Garbo left Hollywood at the top of her fame. There's something to be said for going out while you're still on top of your game. Not dragging it out, becoming a caricature of yourself. Like Sex And The City... the Series totally went out on top. I think the show totally helped open up dialogue about women being sexual and successful in the modern world. All of that was dashed with the 2 crappy subsequent movies, where the women became the very opposite of what they originally stood for: shallow, weak, reliant on men, traditional gender roles, societal values and mores, etc. Point is, I'd rather see Stevie stop altogether, than make an album contrary to what she is.

It's horrible to say and think this, but sometimes I almost wish Stevie had actually OD'd and died around the time of Rock A Little. Her legacy would have been secured... she wouldn't have released steadily declining quality material. She wouldn't have become irrelevant. She wouldn't be known for lackluster phoned in zombie performances. She would have been known for the beautiful woman who twirled into the world with her beautiful voice and bewitching persona, took us away from our mundane lives for a little while, then left after she'd made her impact.

All of that being said, perhaps it's a good thing Stevie took a decade in between albums. Maybe she just had to get the right inspiration. Maybe she was waiting for the perfect storm. Perhaps she was being quiet for the while, so the world would listen when she had something to say. Time will tell!

[olive]

[QUOTE=KarmaContestant;903680

In the end, I think every fan *secretly in their heart* really wants an album full of Sara, Gypsy and Edge of Seventeen sound-alikes.

not really ..they're been done .. I rather her explore something new and take a chance then re- write Rhiannon . if she loses creativity ..Why Bother! ... I would like to hear her do Classic Country / Blue Grass style music and work with Dolly (parton...she has over 3000 published songs i am sure she'd share a few!) ... as co writer and producer .. Stevie's voice has and is suited for it. It would be amazing

[sorcerer999]

"It's horrible to say and think this, but sometimes I almost wish Stevie had actually OD'd and died around the time of Rock A Little. Her legacy would have been secured... she wouldn't have released steadily declining quality material. She wouldn't have become irrelevant. "


Louie, I think you'll find most of us disagree with you here. In my opinion, even though some songs on TOSOTM were crappy, as well as the new songs on Timespace, the only time her material "declined" as it were was "Street Angel". Personally, I thought TISL was better than RAL, and just as good as BD and WH.

Also, I never thought she became irrelevant. On the contrary, with "The Dance", "Enchanted" and "TISL", she garnered new fans, got a grammy nod, and is cited by many artists of today as being a major influence. She is very well respected by industry folks, musicians and actors alike. My prog rock station here in Nashville played the heck out of Planets, Sorcerer, Running Thru The Garden, and (a year later) is still playing Crash from Soundstage.

Irrelevant? I don't think so. Of course, this is just my opinion. I'm glad she never OD'd.

[pattyfan]

Stevie doing a country CD with Dolly behind the helm....that would be soooooo killer. I can't even imagine that. When I listen to the demo of That's Alright (Designs of Love) and hear that country, reedy, voice, it breaks my heart. I want Stevie's voice, Stevie's songs, and as little production as possible. How about an acoustic CD? Stevie singing her old songs that she never recorded with one person playing an acoustic guitar and maybe some drums. I know, and I want a CD of Christine playing piano with maybe a bass guitar and some drums, but that will never happen either. Anyway, I'm sure there will be one or two songs that I'll like, but that's all I"m really expecting. I hope I'm wrong!

Kevin

[APerfectLie]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

See? I'm completely on the other side of that fence. Like Def Leppard once sang: "It's better to burn out than to fade away!" Pro athletes know when it's time to hang up their jerseys. Grace Slick knew when it was time for her to stop singing. Greta Garbo left Hollywood at the top of her fame. There's something to be said for going out while you're still on top of your game. Not dragging it out, becoming a caricature of yourself. Like Sex And The City... the Series totally went out on top. I think the show totally helped open up dialogue about women being sexual and successful in the modern world. All of that was dashed with the 2 crappy subsequent movies, where the women became the very opposite of what they originally stood for: shallow, weak, reliant on men, traditional gender roles, societal values and mores, etc. Point is, I'd rather see Stevie stop altogether, than make an album contrary to what she is.

It's horrible to say and think this, but sometimes I almost wish Stevie had actually OD'd and died around the time of Rock A Little. Her legacy would have been secured... she wouldn't have released steadily declining quality material. She wouldn't have become irrelevant. She wouldn't be known for lackluster phoned in zombie performances. She would have been known for the beautiful woman who twirled into the world with her beautiful voice and bewitching persona, took us away from our mundane lives for a little while, then left after she'd made her impact.

All of that being said, perhaps it's a good thing Stevie took a decade in between albums. Maybe she just had to get the right inspiration. Maybe she was waiting for the perfect storm. Perhaps she was being quiet for the while, so the world would listen when she had something to say. Time will tell!

You know, I would never ever ever wanted that to happen, because I do think we've gotten a lot of amazing stuff from her since then. However, I can't say I haven't thought about it. I often wonder if Marilyn Monroe would still be known today had she lived. What about Janis Joplin? I think had Stevie died, she would be even more iconic and legendary than she is now. It is very interesting to think about. However, I would rather have a less iconic and relevant Stevie with some amazing music I can still love, rather than none at all.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by sorcerer999

Also, I never thought she became irrelevant.

Oh, but she was! From about the time Behind The Mask was released, right up until The Dance reunion, Stevie was utterly irrelevant in the music scene. In the '90s, you didn't tell anyone you were a Stevie fan. The press wrote terrible things about her. She sold virtually no albums during that time. For the first time in her life, she released an album that didn't even go Gold. No younger artists cited her as inspiration. She didn't have any singles that did anything on the charts (with or without FM). Grunge and hip hop were taking over the airwaves. Fleetwood Mac were dinosaur pop-rock to the masses, about the most utterly uncool band imaginable. Stevie couldn't have been any further from cool/cutting edge/relevant/highly regarded during that time.

Something happened with The Dance, though. Suddenly all these younger celebrities were outing themselves as Fleetwood Mac and Stevie Nicks fans. Courtney Love and Winona Ryder were in the audience for the Dance taping. Other artists started releasing cover songs of Mac tunes. The Dance, and it's songs were being played on MTV and VH1 in heavy rotation for YEARS. Fashion designers started coming out in support of Stevie's style. She was interviewed by fashion magazines for the first time in her career. Stevie was FINALLY being taken seriously by music critics too, who had a career-long history of lampooning her.

It's my humble opinion Stevie dashed much of the wind which has been blowing in her sails the past dozen or so years. She could have done SO much more with all the positive sentiment which was finally heaped on her after nearly 40 years in the music biz.

[Zanobbi]

Originally Posted by pattyfan

Stevie doing a country CD with Dolly behind the helm....that would be soooooo killer.... How about an acoustic CD?...

Everytime I read something about Stevie doing a country CD, I feel sick,. Stevie & Dolly... It sounds like a bad, bad dream! The real nightmare! (This is not the world, this is not the world...)
But listen to her cover of "At last": I think she would be great doing that kind of stuff. And I agree with you: an acoustic CD and tour of unreleased demos would be great (remember Gypsy from AHI concert with just Lindsey and Waddy and Carlos (?) on acoustic guitars? )

[KarmaContestant]

Originally Posted by olive

not really ..they're been done .. I rather her explore something new and take a chance then re- write Rhiannon

On a matter of principal, I agree - but it seems that when Stevie does try something new, it's not well received. I'm guilty of this as well. Smile At You, Everybody Finds Out, Silver Girl, Jane, Street Angel, Rupert Hine, Sheryl Crow, - I'm not saying everybody hates this stuff but it's very common to see complaints about how Stevie songs just aren't as good as they used to be.

Originally Posted by sorcerer999

In my opinion, even though some songs on TOSOTM were crappy, as well as the new songs on Timespace, the only time her material "declined" as it were was "Street Angel". Personally, I thought TISL was better than RAL, and just as good as BD and WH.

Also, I never thought she became irrelevant. On the contrary, with "The Dance", "Enchanted" and "TISL", she garnered new fans, got a grammy nod, and is cited by many artists of today as being a major influence. She is very well respected by industry folks, musicians and actors alike. My prog rock station here in Nashville played the heck out of Planets, Sorcerer, Running Thru The Garden, and (a year later) is still playing Crash from Soundstage.

Irrelevant? I don't think so. Of course, this is just my opinion. I'm glad she never OD'd.

Very well said - although I find Street Angel to be a better album that TOSOTM. Stevie has never been irrelevant - just not as popular at times. It happens to everyone - sales decline, styles change - people overlook the present hoping for a return to glory days of the past, and all the while you're really just as good as you've always been.

And it never really matters what anyone else - especially critics - think of an artist. If the art speaks to you, it it always relevant.

[kokoro]

Originally Posted by Zanobbi

Everytime I read something about Stevie doing a country CD, I feel sick,. Stevie & Dolly... It sounds like a bad, bad dream! The real nightmare! (This is not the world, this is not the world...)
But listen to her cover of "At last": I think she would be great doing that kind of stuff. And I agree with you: an acoustic CD and tour of unreleased demos would be great (remember Gypsy from AHI concert with just Lindsey and Waddy and Carlos (?) on acoustic guitars? )

Aw, c'mon, country girl Stevie is one of the best Stevies. I love rocking Stevie, poppy Stevie, bluesy Stevie, etc., but I have a special place in my heart for country Stevie, and I would die happy if she did a full country album. Country's in her blood! I'm hopin' and I'm prayin' that there's at least one country song on the new album. But I certainly wouldn't object to a standards album (yes, please!) or an acoustic hits album (maybe with some guests, under the condition she doesn't let Puffy AmiYumi near her like Cyndi Lauper).

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

And it never really matters what anyone else - especially critics - think of an artist. If the art speaks to you, it it always relevant.

Most definitely. I never quite get this talk about what's relevant because it's on a person to person basis. Stevie may not be in the limelight like she used to be, but she's always relevant to her fans, and she remains a pop culture icon. By the same token, while I listen to Lady Gaga (who's most definitely in the limelight these days and is currently an icon) and enjoy her music to a certain extent, she's not really relevant to me.

[sorcerer999]

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

Stevie has never been irrelevant - just not as popular at times. It happens to everyone - sales decline, styles change - people overlook the present hoping for a return to glory days of the past, and all the while you're really just as good as you've always been.

I just recently re-watched her "Behind The Music" and Stevie herself says, "You can be the darling one year, and be nobody the next year, so you have to learn to accept and deal with that."