Set List Aug 4

[Nikolaj]

Actually, Skuncles, I agree with what you wrote in your reply. Your points were accurate and informed, mostly by stating obvious and well known facts, to backpedal and deflect attention from your original, first message I replied to. I didn't agree or see your logic of how she had to 'fund the new album'. It doesn't matter; of course, whether I agree with everything you, or anyone, may write. It's good to have differing perspectives.
It would be a dull forum if everyone always saw things the same way. Yet, your (failed) attempt to profoundly bitch-slap me for disagreeing with you, by trying to educate me of "how the music business works" was revealing, to say the least.
Of course, you are completely correct that live performances are where the big money is and has been for a very long time for SN, and not her recording career. Common knowledge, and I'd never stated otherwise. It's why she's been on tour since 1997 with less than 4 years when she didn't perform at all.
Sniping aside, I agree with you more than not! And you likely know that she has had plenty of $ from the past 13 years of touring not to need to do these fews shows to pay for the new album.
So, nice to hear from ya, live and let live, all the best. I need to go back and copy and paste it in all it's glory:
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Skuncles wrote: His comments are in regular type, mine are italicized in parenthesis.
It's called standing up for myself, by the way, and I'm entitled. I hope some of you may fall down laughing, I tried to see the humor in it. How funny I had to answer such drivel.
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It's not laughable by any stretch of the imagination! Many artists book shows simply to bring in the extra $$. Think about it Stevie has no reason to do these shows, she's not promoting anything. True she's donating her salary from the first show and that's fantastic, but this isn't a charity tour.
[Yes, that is true; and nobody said it was a charity tour)
When these shows were booked she was working on an album with no plans to do anything. No one said she's on skid row either.
(My 'Skid Row Stevie' comment was ummm, a joke!)
But this kind of thing happens ALL THE TIME. And in most cases when only a handful of shows are being done and there's nothing to promote, it's being done simply because there's money to be made.
(Duh! Who said it doesn't happen all the time, singers work for money, true.)
Also in most of these cases it has nothing to do with the artist, but rather the manager.
(Or the mother. That Barbara Nicks won't let Stevie rest. Never has and never will!)
You do a handful of high paying gigs usually at small casino venues which pay more than arenas and you make a quick million or so. That's how that music business works, and to think otherwise IS laughable!
(Yes, I'm laughable. Any informed Ledgie, courtesy of the brilliant L, knows that SN's price is $200,000 per show. Maybe, the casinos paid her more, in the past. Now it seems, they are about the only ones who can afford to pay her guarantee!)
(Ye Scunkles, who knows how "that music business works." I can tell you are a charter member of the inner circle by the 'making gigs' lingo you throw around with such aplomb.)
You don't really think Stevie's manager said "We have some shows you could do, show the fans how much you love them, only do five shows though and only in basically two areas of the country because we know you love those fans the most."?
(No, I don't really think that, correct. You know so much!)
No, it was more like we can get these high paying gigs, are you in?
(How exciting for you to have been there!)
Finally where do you think artists like Stevie ("classic rock" acts) make their money these days? Sure isn't from album sales!!!!!!!!
(Got enough exclamation points there, bud? Are you happy, angry, excited, or just redundant? I never said her 'money'- of which you are so concerned- came more from cds than from touring)
It's from doing concerts!
(Honest? Really! Gosh!)
If you aren't selling albums, you aren't making money from royalties, but you can do some high paying shows and you're good until the next thing comes along. Where do you suppose Stevie's millions came from?
(Touring and publishing, mainly, and not always in that order, and there's the boorish money thing again you have such a h*rd-on about!)
She hasn't had a hit album in almost 1o years, she hasn't had a hit single in over 20 years
(Ooh, there's that insider knowledge, yet again! Still, one estimate had her earn $8 million from the Dixie Chicks cover of 'Landslide'- thought you'd need to know!).
And why not do a few shows to make an album.
(Um, because, the album is well underway and should she have needed $ for it, she's had tour revenue since '97 and didn't need these five dates to pay for a thing!)
She's not Lady Gaga
(Oh, now you've cut me to the bone and set me right, boy, I thought she WAS Lady Gaga! Oh no! No wonder she looked so different all of a sudden! Oh wait, she's "not" Lady Gaga, thanks for letting me know!)
where the record label is giving her an advance to make the album knowing they'll make it back in sales.
(Maybe there's an advance, maybe not. Maybe there's a budget where all costs are paid for by the Producer for reimbursement by the label. Maybe the agents and managers cover some expenses for a larger piece of it. Who cares!)
Stevie is probably paying for a lot of this herself.
(Why are you so focused on someone else's damned money?!)
The shows will only help.
(Yes, money helps pay for things. Never thought of that. What Stevie pays for or doesn't pay for is none of my business, but it's a free country, go ahead and concern yourself with somebody else's money and think these 5 shows will allow her to release her new cd. You simply are too brilliant of a mind to ever be incorrect. How dare I suggest otherwise?)