TIME Magazine: Taylor Swift by Stevie Nicks

[goldustsongbird]

Originally Posted by michelej1

True. But on the other hand, I wouldn't be all that happy to have Taylor Swift's input if Stevie was being profiled. Heck, I'm still mad about Sheryl Crow and the RRHOF. If Stevie was on the "Most Influential" list and Time asked someone to write about her, I'd want it to be someone equal to or above Stevie who commented. I wouldn't want it to be one of the newcomers.

So, I guess I can see their point in having a vet discuss why they think the newbie is deserving -- even if she may not be. It kind of gives the selection (undeserved) credibility. You don't want a lesser person to be the one speaking.

Michele

I don't like Taylor, but if someone wanted to write a tribute piece for Stevie, who am I to keep them down? It's an odd reversal of roles, for someone with actual talent (even if her hey-day has pasesed) to be sucking up to this whiny little Shirley Temple with a guitar.

I think that's why it's so weird to me: Suddenly they've become Stevie and Taylor, like they've joined forces. The supposed mentor relationship seems forced. I doubt Taylor was influenced by Stevie before they were paired up, and I doubt even more the fact that Stevie walks around singing her songs. Then again, she is a Mariah fan, so anything is possible.

[ButterCookie]

Originally Posted by goldustsongbird

I don't like Taylor, but if someone wanted to write a tribute piece for Stevie, who am I to keep them down? It's an odd reversal of roles, for someone with actual talent (even if her hey-day has pasesed) to be sucking up to this whiny little Shirley Temple with a guitar.

I think that's why it's so weird to me: Suddenly they've become Stevie and Taylor, like they've joined forces. The supposed mentor relationship seems forced. I doubt Taylor was influenced by Stevie before they were paired up, and I doubt even more the fact that Stevie walks around singing her songs. Then again, she is a Mariah fan, so anything is possible.

Oh sh*t. People are going to start shipping!!

[Edgeof27]

Originally Posted by vivfox

Taylor Swift
By Stevie Nicks Thursday, Apr. 29, 2010

When I first got the call from Taylor Swift about performing with her at this year's Grammy Awards, I really didn't want to do it. She's 20 years old, 5 ft. 11 in. and slender; I'm 40 years older and, to be frank, neither of the other two things! I was not about to stand next to this girl on national television. But her little face just lights up like a star, and I couldn't say no.

Taylor reminds me of myself in her determination and her childlike nature. It's an innocence that's so special and so rare. This girl writes the songs that make the whole world sing, like Neil Diamond or Elton John. She sings, she writes, she performs, she plays great guitar. Taylor can do ballads that could be considered pop or rock and then switch back into country. When I turned 20 years old, I had just made the serious decision to never be a dental assistant. Taylor just turned 20, and she's won four Grammys.

I still walk around singing her song "Today Was a Fairytale." All of us girls want that boy to pick us up and think that we look beautiful even though we're in jeans and clogs. We want it at 14, and we want it at 60. Taylor is writing for the universal woman and for the man who wants to know her. The female rock-'n'-roll-country-pop songwriter is back, and her name is Taylor Swift. And it's women like her who are going to save the music business.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...985536,00.html

okay,

it's over,

she can not sing,

but,

she will make it in country music,

sometimes thats all it takes,

next....

[bellagypsy79]

I just have one question to everyone...what is so awful about Taylor Swift? Why doesn't anyone like her? She's not a trouble maker, she doesn't do drugs etc. she's a good kid. Everytime Stevie does a duet with a FEMALE singer such as The Dixie Chicks, Sheryl Crow, or Taylor Swift people bash them like crazy. Some duets and performances aren't the best when they sing with Stevie but these are women who love to sing with her and Stevie is also a fan of their music and likes to sing with them. I will admit though, the only women Stevie sings very well with are her back up girls. And as for male artists, Stevie does duet better with them than she does with women. I will admit that. But it just seems like everytime Stevie sings with a female everyone hates it. I will admit though the performance back in 2001 when she sung with the Chicks, really wasn't that great. I am not a fan of that band though I do like some of their songs, but you could barely hear Stevie. They drowned her out. But the Taylor and Stevie performance really wasn't that great, and I think that's another reason Stevie didn't want to sing with Taylor was because she knew that Taylor couldn't pull off singing that song and for the other reasons she said. But I did enjoy reading that article she wrote and I believe every word of it. I just don't see what's so bad about Taylor. I like her music. It's fun to listen to. Young girls need a role model in their lives and Taylor is one of them. She's influenced young girls including my 8 year old niece Lily to pick up a guitar and want to play and sing. Stevie was OUR role model, now in this day and age, someone like Taylor can be the same. And not just Taylor but other young girls too. I know a lot of you may not agree but that's how I feel. Thanks for posting that article by the way.

[Edgeof27]

Originally Posted by bellagypsy79

I just have one question to everyone...what is so awful about Taylor Swift? Why doesn't anyone like her? She's not a trouble maker, she doesn't do drugs etc. she's a good kid. Everytime Stevie does a duet with a FEMALE singer such as The Dixie Chicks, Sheryl Crow, or Taylor Swift people bash them like crazy. Some duets and performances aren't the best when they sing with Stevie but these are women who love to sing with her and Stevie is also a fan of their music and likes to sing with them. I will admit though, the only women Stevie sings very well with are her back up girls. And as for male artists, Stevie does duet better with them than she does with women. I will admit that. But it just seems like everytime Stevie sings with a female everyone hates it. I will admit though the performance back in 2001 when she sung with the Chicks, really wasn't that great. I am not a fan of that band though I do like some of their songs, but you could barely hear Stevie. They drowned her out. But the Taylor and Stevie performance really wasn't that great, and I think that's another reason Stevie didn't want to sing with Taylor was because she knew that Taylor couldn't pull off singing that song and for the other reasons she said. But I did enjoy reading that article she wrote and I believe every word of it. I just don't see what's so bad about Taylor. I like her music. It's fun to listen to. Young girls need a role model in their lives and Taylor is one of them. She's influenced young girls including my 8 year old niece Lily to pick up a guitar and want to play and sing. Stevie was OUR role model, now in this day and age, someone like Taylor can be the same. And not just Taylor but other young girls too. I know a lot of you may not agree but that's how I feel. Thanks for posting that article by the way.

Did you see the Grammy's,

did you see how bad T.S. was,

sure she can sing .........country.......

you could too.....

sorry.....

[bellagypsy79]

Originally Posted by Edgeof27

Did you see the Grammy's,

did you see how bad T.S. was,

sure she can sing .........country.......

you could too.....

sorry.....

Yes I did. And as a matter of fact that's what I said in my post. I said that it wasn't great. I don't know what the "you could too" means though. Are you asking if I can sing country? What does singing country have anything to do with the "bad" Grammy performance? Sorry I don't understand what you were trying to say...

[chelluversu]

Originally Posted by bellagypsy79

Yes I did. And as a matter of fact that's what I said in my post. I said that it wasn't great. I don't know what the "you could too" means though. Are you asking if I can sing country? What does singing country have anything to do with the "bad" Grammy performance? Sorry I don't understand what you were trying to say...

I think Edge is bashing country as full of "taylor swift", meaning sucky, singers

[Zombie]

Originally Posted by LikeAWillow

When I was fourteen, you were teaching me that I should be the type of woman whom men look at and say "wouldn't you love to love her?" not the sort who helps feed madonna/whore complexes everywhere.

This times infinity, but with me at that age, it was Tori Amos. No madonna/whore for me, just Tori's Magdalene.

I was taught that wearing a slinky red thing does not mean a damn thing about me or anyone else as a person - it's just a dress (or a short skirt & high heels or a t-shirt & sneakers), and I learned never to be the cornflake girl, trying to tear other girls down for what they wear or say or do like I'm somehow better, because that's when things get gross.

I was taught that you will never gain weight from a doughnut hole, so don't waste your time mooning after boys that don't deserve it. I mean, if he wants the cheerleader, Taylor, then let him have the cheerleader. If you're not a cheerleader, what do you want with a boy that wants a cheerleader? After all, even if it feels like flu in the moment, it's probably just h'achoo, and there really are enough boys to go around, I promise.

I also learned that when something hurts, you've got to learn to recognize it for what it is, and then break its hold and let it go.

I count myself lucky that I got those lessons early in life instead of some damsel-in-distress bubblegum junk, because while I'm twice as old now as I was then, they are still lessons I use every day. And they are lessons I hope to pass on to my daughter when she's that age.

/rant

[michelej1]

I give Taylor props because she doesn't just sing badly, she also writes catchy tunes and plays an instrument. I don't think that's a bad start for a young woman, because there are some who just stand there and pose. I think the writing is something to be quite proud of for her age and it will only get better.

Michele

[tlssln]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

The music industry is f***ed.

LOL. Yeah, really.
Taylor Swift isn't going to have anywhere near the career Stevie has had.
The music industry has been in trouble for a long time and Taylor isn't going to save it, even if she IS from my home town.
Stevie should call Hillary Clinton and ask for a job at the State Department as a diplomat.

[GypsyBlueEyes]

It completely slipped my mind that we have a subscription to Time magazine until I looked down at it today and saw the name Stevie Nicks...so now, not only is that profile online...its also in my house *insert some sort of projectile vomit smiley here*

At first I just couldn't believe that Stevie would write all that about her..."she's writing for the universal woman"...whateverrrrr. She writes for lovesick teenagers...the thing is, the songs sound catchy so everyone jumps on them. Another gem was "I still walk around singing her song "Today Was a Fairytale"...I don't believe that for a second and if I knew for a fact she did, I'd feel sick that STEVIE NICKS was walking around singing something like that.

Here's the thing...other than those 2 quotes, if you go through it line by line, it doesn't really seem like there is that much there...it's all smoke and mirrors. At first sight, it reads like a glowing tribute to Taylor...but if you really look at it, there really isn't that much to it. There is nothing in it that suggests she's writing about one of the most influential people in the world. A lot of it references Stevie herself...almost everything else that she wrote is true and yet there is very little substance...its empty. At first I thought she'd kind of sold out...or that at the very least, she was back on drugs ...but then I developed this little theory and I feel much better. Our Stevie is a pretty clever girl! She's way too sweet to say or write anything negative about Taylor and she managed to walk that very fine line between telling the truth and making it positive. She really had an opportunity, if she wanted to, to gush over how talented Taylor is, what a great voice she has, how she writes songs that will transend time, etc (things that you would expect someone to say when they're talking about an artist they really admire)...but she didn't. I think that says a lot.

I know that a lot of people think Taylor will mature and get better as she gets older, and I can totally see why they feel that way...its an evolutionary process and the longer someone works at something the better they will get...but if, sitting here right now, someone asked me to predict the future, I would say she'll get older but she won't mature as a writer and her songs will still sound the same and no one will take a grown woman singing stuff like that seriously -->like I said, though...that's just my intuition about her future success

Oh, and I totally agree with everything Marissa said

[vivfox]

I thought it was Barry Manilow who writes the songs that make the whole world sing?

[GypsyBlueEyes]

Originally Posted by vivfox

I thought it was Barry Manilow who writes the songs that make the whole world sing?

Ahahaha...I thought it was Frank Sinatra