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Old 04-23-2010, 03:11 AM
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I'd like to think yes, it could happen. But not if she keeps singing 'Stand Back' or 'Landslide' every time she's on tv! How much damned money does she get for performing those songs on tv so damned much, anyway! I'm mostly ignorant as to how BMI pays songwriters for televised performances for self-penned hits, but I think aired performance songwriting royalties are based upon on sales and accumulated airplay over the years, which explains why we get 'SB' so much.
She blew it a few years ago not singing 'Rock and Roll' on the Superbowl Pre-Game show, she sang 'SB'- The single for 'Rock and Roll' was just shipping to radio, and nobody but her biggest fans knew she'd covered it, so it wasn't like radio was gonna get any requests to 'play the Stevie Nicks' Led Zep cover" because no-one knew it was going to radio because she chose to sing 'Stand Back during a tv audience to millions of people... It was really, really stupid of her. Though she didn't really nail 'R&R' on her 'Crystal Visions' release, it still had at least some hit potential, had people known- It did nothing. 'Rock and Roll' was much better a couple of years later on Soundstage, but it was only included on the dvd, and not on the cd, so no potential hit, there. 'Crash' and yet another 'Landslide' got sent to radio.
She'd need some people willing to tell her the truth, that she doesn't promote new product to it's full advantage by relying on her back catalogue so much, the 'Say You Will' promotion on 'Today' also had Fleetwood Mac relying on their hits and only singing 2 new songs, and not the really goodnew songs from the album!
Cher's #1 selling song of the year in 'Billboard' had a huge headstart by being #1 in many Euro markets before the US release, and she was 52 and 53 at the time, not in her 60s. It's nearly impossible for any big star to get airplay after they're 39! (Janet Jackson a while back, and Mariah Carey, last year, suddenly became playlist poison!) I'd like to think Stevie could really have a smash, but she really needs strong killer songs and a great album to promote who she is and can be, not who she was.
The 'Ellen' performances were really tragic. Talk a little less about the past in the same way that we all know so much about, and really be the great songwriter-singer that she is, and yes, she could have a really big album with several hits. Continue pr0motion in the same way as 'TISL', 'SYW' and 'The Soundstage Sessions' and people will not get that she has new magic and future classics to offer.

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Old 04-23-2010, 11:19 AM
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Sorry, but you really must be living in Dreamland. You contradict yourself in your post somewhat, If Janet & Mariah are radio poison as you put it (and they are), then Stevie does not have a chance using that logic. Stevie best shot of having a comeback semi-hit were with TISL or SYW, and that sadly now is past her. If your realistic, you'd realize that the masses (not ledgie's) remember Stevie & FM for their past hits and nostalgia.. period. The fact that Stevie is still respected, creative & married to her work, allows her to have the opportunity to still record. It's a pipe dream to think Stevie, now a 60+ yr. old singer, is going to have this massive comeback on the charts. She banks now on touring & always has, even when the hits were there, but especially now. Time to wake up from dreamland, Stevie's chance of having a modest hit at this point would be a fluke.

If these new recording's end up being a new release, I expect a respectable chart debut, and total sales well under 500K (realistically probably more like 100k to 250k) which, in the new world of the music business is admirable for a classic artist of Stevie's generation. She is lucky, Stevie has the best chances out of all her peers (Heart, Pat Benatar, Linda Ronstadt, Debbie Harry (Blondie) to name a few) to have that opportunity here and now. Here's hoping Stevie becomes the Etta James of her generation and records & tours occasionally well into her 70's.

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Old 04-23-2010, 11:33 AM
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Stevie needs to do a rap.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:49 AM
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Here's how Mama can achieve a Number 1 single:

-Collaborate with a hot young act whose initials are not T.S. Lady Gaga, for example.

-Go the Cher route: Euro-disco! Whip out the vocoder, samples, auto-tune, etc. And give us that pulsating Eurotrash technobeat!

-Record a Dianne Warren power ballad for a blockbuster action adventure movie, and play it over the closing credits.

-Record the theme song for a hip premium cable TV series and post clips all over YouTube.

-Do all of the above AND appear on American Idol.
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Here's how Mama can achieve a Number 1 single:

-Collaborate with a hot young act whose initials are not T.S. Lady Gaga, for example.

-Go the Cher route: Euro-disco! Whip out the vocoder, samples, auto-tune, etc. And give us that pulsating Eurotrash technobeat!

-Record a Dianne Warren power ballad for a blockbuster action adventure movie, and play it over the closing credits.

-Record the theme song for a hip premium cable TV series and post clips all over YouTube.

-Do all of the above AND appear on American Idol.
...and have a kid.
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Old 04-23-2010, 02:53 PM
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Christopher, you're right. I was kind of 'in dreamland'- thinking that I'd "like" to say a hit can happen, perhaps contradicting myself, as you wrote. I don't think it really will happen for Stevie, " a #1 hit", especially the way she tends to promote new product by also promoting her catalogue.
There are rare exceptions to the '39' rule that Mariah is now facing, which years before also seemed to end Janet Jackson's long run of airplay (for mostly mediocre, at best, songs that became hits), once she hit 39. Yet, there was her Cherness in her 50s, with the top-selling single of the entire year. Other 50-somethings had albums that sold millions. Hit singles? I don't remember any besides 'Believe'-
With Stevie having classic rock radio stations as a possible outlet, which the above singers don't have, I'd like to think a great Stevie song could get some airplay and become a hit. The reality seems bleak, though. So, I tend to agree with you, actually.
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I like that Cher tune,but Stevie does not need a computer or vocoder to enhance her voice.but she could add the Euro-disco beat to the tune.
Look at Tina Turner back in 1984 ,she sold records like hot cakes with What's Love Got To Do With It .I dont know about rap,but country singer Tammy Wynnette had a hit with Justified & Ancient with KLF in 1991.I thought that was cool ,and I like it too.
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:01 PM
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I think Stevie could have a huge hit if she did the type of song that can be played at weddings and graduations and such...I think Stevie doing a song like "I Hope You Dance" would be very well received. I think the public looks to her for that type of "Landslide" ballad wisdom.
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Stevie did have a number 1 on the Billboard dance chart with the Planets of the Universe remix. But as for Billboard's mainstream Top 20, sadly enough, her last showing for a single was 'Rooms On Fire' 21 years ago.

Who knows - maybe if Tracy Young and company remix her next single as a dance track, Stevie will have a hit again (at least on the dance charts). However, I doubt this will really augment sales. Dance remixes get played in clubs, not radio for the average music buying public.
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I just want her to put out good album -- an album that will get high respect from various fields. If it has a hit on it, even better. But that doesn't matter as much, because the record industry is in such flux.

I would love to see Stevie put out an incredible album that doesn't yearn to cater to the masses, yet achieves an artisic high point, rather than album that strives to sell multi-millions yet falls short in artistry. She doesn't need a hit (whatever that means these days); she just must release a collection of great songs. She already has the legendary status; what she needs now is something to add to her legacy.
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I just want her to put out good album -- an album that will get high respect from various fields. If it has a hit on it, even better. But that doesn't matter as much, because the record industry is in such flux.

I would love to see Stevie put out an incredible album that doesn't yearn to cater to the masses, but achieves an artisic high point, rather than album that strives to sell multi-millions yet falls short in artistry. She doesn't need a hit (whatever that means these days); she just must release a collection of great songs. She already has the legendary status; what she needs is something to add to her legacy.
Beautifully stated Penguin! I couldn't agree more.
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TOP 50 CATALOGUE ALBUMS CHART - APRIL 26, 2010

12x Platinum "Rumours" in week 10 on the Catalogue Chart is up 4 spots to #5.


"Rumours" 2010 Catalogue Chart Run
#38 - Week of 2/22/10
#16 - Week of 3/1/10
#08 - Week of 3/8/10
#09 - Week of 3/15/10
#08 - Week of 3/22/10
#04 - Week of 3/29/10
#04 - Week of 4/05/10
#06 - Week of 4/12/10
#09 - Week of 4/19/10
#05 - Week 0f 4/26/10

Fleetwood Mac's 5x Platinum "The Very Best Of" moves up to #31 from #42 last week on the Catalogue chart. Total weeks on the Chart = 24.

At the moment anything they put out would do well... here
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I sent a tweet to DJ Tracy Young (POTU remix) asking her if she had any plans to remix any more Stevie Nicks songs and she responded! Not that it's good news but nice of her to respond:

@DJTracyYoung Any plans to remix any more Stevie Nicks songs?

@SapphireSister would love 2! Nothing as of now. about 5 hours ago via UberTwitter in reply to SapphireSister
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