Stevie @ MGM Foxwoods August 28th, 2010

[nicksphan]

Originally Posted by LukeA

I would love it if Stevie did a proper 2500-3500 seater theater tour. Problem is, there's just not enough money in it for her.

I'm curious if one of the reasons Jana was dropped is for monetary reasons...one less backup singer to pay. And like my friend also mentioned, she's already dropped the percussionist.

[RoseGarden]

Originally Posted by SapphireSister

Exactly! Her value is depreciating as we speak!

Can't say I agree with that statement. MGM Foxwood is usually for the "Elite". I HATE anything Foxwoods....ahhh! However, it is exciting to know Stevie will be here in CT again giving so many of us the opportunity to see her. I am just concerned about her set list being the same as eva (sigh)....She has so much more to offer! Well, we Stevie fans will just have to stay tuned.....

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by AliceLover

No way! She never plays there.

Im wanting a show in PHOENIX! Im sure theres a heart institute that could always use support!

[skuncles]

Casinos are kind of getting a bad rap. The fact is the casino venue is becoming more and more popular. Here in CT almost EVERY act that comes thru plays either Foxwoods or Mohegan. It used to be the Hartford Civic Center or the Meadows, but very few shows play there anymore. You get the big summer tours at the Meadows, and people like Springsteen at the Civic Center, but everyone else hits the casinos.
The arena at the Mohegan Sun was built to house the WNBA team (they still play there all the time) but they started booking concerts there and it became hugely successful. Foxwoods initially only had your typical casino acts, Wayne Newton, Bobby Vinton, Steve and Edie, but when Mohegan started selling out huge rock and country shows, Foxwoods saw a huge drop in concert business. Last year they opened the MGM Grand Theater and now they are getting bigger mainstream acts.
To play a casino these days is not like playing Vegas in the 70's or 80's.

[LukeA]

Yes, all of this is true.

I don't think most people have a problem with Stevie playing casinos- its just annoying & obviously telling when Stevie ONLY plays casinos (and the random zoo amphitheater/BFE sh*thole dumb enough to pay what she demands). Rather than attempt to mount (or even give the vague impression of mounting) a national tour, she plays the same venues/same markets for as much money as possible with as little effort/unpredictability expended.

Does she have the right to do this? Absolutely. I think its awesome that Stevie can still make untold amounts of money playing mainly to gambling addicts/bluehairs (not referring to fellow Ledgies ) year in and year out. But, admit that she's a nostalgia act. (this Dave Stewart thing will trend out to maybe one or two new songs, released on iTunes. book it.) She's done.

[RockALittle250]

Originally Posted by LukeA

Yes, all of this is true.

I don't think most people have a problem with Stevie playing casinos- its just annoying & obviously telling when Stevie ONLY plays casinos (and the random zoo amphitheater/BFE sh*thole dumb enough to pay what she demands). Rather than attempt to mount (or even give the vague impression of mounting) a national tour, she plays the same venues/same markets for as much money as possible with as little effort/unpredictability expended.

Does she have the right to do this? Absolutely. I think its awesome that Stevie can still make untold amounts of money playing mainly to gambling addicts/bluehairs (not referring to fellow Ledgies ) year in and year out. But, admit that she's a nostalgia act. (this Dave Stewart thing will trend out to maybe one or two new songs, released on iTunes. book it.) She's done.

In some ways i think you're right, and in others i don't. If Stevie were a nostalgia act, she would be unable to make the kind of money she does, because no one would stand for it. Now obviously, she is no Madonna when it comes to the kind of shows she puts on and the kind of press her tours get, but when you go see her, you get way more than a throwback concert at the diggery-doo.

And i think if she were done, people wouldn't continue to be in awe of her, like when she appeared at the Grammys. That got so much press because it showed the general public that Stevie Nicks still has what it takes to outshine someone as popular and relevent as Taylor Swift.

[APerfectLie]

Originally Posted by RockALittle250

In some ways i think you're right, and in others i don't. If Stevie were a nostalgia act, she would be unable to make the kind of money she does, because no one would stand for it. Now obviously, she is no Madonna when it comes to the kind of shows she puts on and the kind of press her tours get, but when you go see her, you get way more than a throwback concert at the diggery-doo.

And i think if she were done, people wouldn't continue to be in awe of her, like when she appeared at the Grammys. That got so much press because it showed the general public that Stevie Nicks still has what it takes to outshine someone as popular and relevent as Taylor Swift.

So very true.

[MacMan]

Originally Posted by RockALittle250

If Stevie were a nostalgia act, she would be unable to make the kind of money she does, because no one would stand for it.

In some ways Stevie makes the kind of money because it's about nostalgia... When you tour year in year out without releasing new music you are touring on nostalgia. She hasn't released a solo in 9 years and nothing new since 2003 - 7 years! That's a long time. She outshines someone like Taylor Swift in ways because of respect, because of her longevity, her history. Plus, Taylor Swift kind of sucked that night - which was to Stevie's benefit.

[Maria78]

OMG! That's my birthday! Seeing Stevie would be the best birthday present ever!

[Aussie W/Heart]

I couldn't think of a greater birthday present, lucky you I only hope she makes her way to Australia again

[skuncles]

Well yeah, the fact is Stevie IS a nostaliga act. It is NOT 1981 anymore. Stevie is not ripping up the charts and being played on radio. Pretty much everyone who was huge in the 70's and 80's are doing the casino circuit. There are exceptions, but for the most part that's true.
To say that Stevie is playing for the "blue hairs and gamblers" is again a throwback to the Vegas idea of what it is to play the casinos. The vast majority of the shows I've seen over the past three or so years have been at the casino and you don't really see a lot of people who just happened to stumble in since they were there. Yeah it's an older crowd at the Stevie/Mac shows, but their core fans are in their 50's-60's.
My point is Stevie will not be doing a huge arena/shed tour anytime soon. As long as she doesn't have a new album out (and more importantly a HIT album) it won't happen.
Someone mentioned her playing state fairs, to me that is more of drop than playing casinos. The worst though would be playing the Wolf Den at the Mohegan. For those that don't know, that's the free shows that are right in the middle of the casino among the slot machines. It's limited seating, but anyone walking by can stop and watch. I saw 38 Special last year that way. If Stevie starts doing the free shows, it's over.

[wayner]

have just spoken with the box office there, and there will be a concert aug 28th

tickets not yet on sale and no sales date announced

will just have to call every day - will advise soon as i hear anything

if anyone hears of anything further, please share with the rest of us

[skcin]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Aren't there a ton of them on either side of the Falls? I think that could be kind of neat- seeing the falls and going to the show. I haven't been to Niagra Falls in, like, 30 years, but I remember that it was kinda breathtaking.

There's a casino on each side of the border. The U.S. casino is a bit further from the Falls themselves (you can see the mist from there, but not the Falls) and their venue is awful - I saw Heart & Pat Benatar there. They were all amazing, but the venue is nothing more than a wedding reception hall with dining room chairs. It's painfully bad. Flat floor too, no slope down. So you literally can't see anything unless you're first 2 or 3 rows.

No idea about the canadian venue, which is right ON the Falls. And the falls are cool, but when you grow up here & see them every year, the novelty wears off. They're still incredible, but not a draw for me.

Originally Posted by Musicman408

She needs to stop playing casinos!!!

Why, cuz you're not old enough to go?

Originally Posted by skuncles

Casinos are kind of getting a bad rap. The fact is the casino venue is becoming more and more popular. Here in CT almost EVERY act that comes thru plays either Foxwoods or Mohegan. It used to be the Hartford Civic Center or the Meadows, but very few shows play there anymore. You get the big summer tours at the Meadows, and people like Springsteen at the Civic Center, but everyone else hits the casinos. The arena at the Mohegan Sun was built to house the WNBA team (they still play there all the time) but they started booking concerts there and it became hugely successful. Foxwoods initially only had your typical casino acts, Wayne Newton, Bobby Vinton, Steve and Edie, but when Mohegan started selling out huge rock and country shows, Foxwoods saw a huge drop in concert business. Last year they opened the MGM Grand Theater and now they are getting bigger mainstream acts.
To play a casino these days is not like playing Vegas in the 70's or 80's.

So true.

Originally Posted by skuncles

Well yeah, the fact is Stevie IS a nostaliga act. It is NOT 1981 anymore. Stevie is not ripping up the charts and being played on radio. Pretty much everyone who was huge in the 70's and 80's are doing the casino circuit. There are exceptions, but for the most part that's true....

Agreed.

Originally Posted by RockALittle250

And i think if she were done, people wouldn't continue to be in awe of her, like when she appeared at the Grammys. That got so much press because it showed the general public that Stevie Nicks still has what it takes to outshine someone as popular and relevent as Taylor Swift.

Outshine? Of course. Outsell? No way.

[SapphireSister]

Originally Posted by skcin

Outshine? Of course. Outsell? No way.

It's about quality, not quantity honey! lol (no offense to all the 13 yr. old Taylor fans out there).

[wayner]

Tickets go on sale may 14 9:00 AM $ 85.00 $ 100.00 $ 135.00

is anyone familiar w foxwoods seating ? where are the better sections ( other that front row, which i assume is being held for big rollers )

will also keep eyes open for possible AMEX pre-sale through ticketmaster !