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Old 04-19-2010, 04:22 PM
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I have a Mirage outtakes comp with the following: Love in Store, That’s Alright, Blue Monday, Hold Me, Gypsy #1, Eyes of the World, If You Were my Love #1, Wish You Were Here, Smile at You, Straight Back, Can’t go Back (instrumental), Oh Diane (instrumental), Book of Love (instrumental), Gypsy #2, If You Were My Love #2

Mike anything on here seem like it might be of interest?
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:16 PM
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Lindsay, I always check out Stevie's songs on any comp!

SA95, I will download that "Gypsy" later ~ thanks for posting it!
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:26 PM
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Jeff! I am BLARING your fantastic enhancing of "She Still Loves Him"!!!!!

OMFG!!!!!!! The intro without the hiss... Stevie's strong, clear emotional voice... the crisp instruments... and Stevie's incredibly sad final vocals as she reminds us, even those who wouldn't like to know: she still loves him.

I have chills ~ I'm SO Excited!!!!!!!!

GREAT WORK!!!!!
Thanks very much for the compliment.. lol! I'm so glad you like it!! Enhancing files can be a very subjective thing (equalizing in particular) from one's ears to another (just like mastering and re-mastering I suppose), so that's awesome it sounds good to you!

Do you have a decent lossless copy of "What Has Rock 'N Roll Ever Done To You?" I have a pretty good mp3 copy that I have tried to enhance before... but obviously a lossless one would be much better, due to the fact you have all the source information to work with (super high ends and way low ends).

It also depends on how the mix of the demo is... different mp3s of most of the demos circulating have different stereo images (Beautiful Ghost is an example that drives me nuts... love the song, but the stereo image is bizarre). So if you get a good demo with a strong centrally mixed vocal... those are the best to work with!
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Old 04-19-2010, 07:28 PM
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Here is my first attempt at cleaning the file up a bit... it's still far from perfect, but it sounds a little fuller to my ears with a little less hiss (hopefully without losing too much of the crispness in the vocals):

http://www.multiupload.com/B6GUZDOGX8

Let me know what you think... I can always tinker with it some more!
Wow, great job. Very nice - clear and crisp.
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Old 04-19-2010, 07:42 PM
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I have no lossless copies of "What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done For You?" or "Thousand Days". I've gotten some great upgrades lately. I made a file on my iTunes to organize them all.

Yes, I've gotten a fantastic "Beautiful Ghost", but I don't know what technical things you require so as not to duplicate the work you've already done to the song.

Rock A Little-era songs I have very, very good versions of, near or at the level of "She Still Loves Him", comprise of:

Rose Garden
Mirror, Mirror
Night Gallery
Ooh Baby
Prettiest Girl in The World
Rock A Bye Baby
I Sing For The Things
Something Exquisite
It's Not A Dream
Thousand Days
Whole Lotta Trouble
What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done For You?
No Spoken Word

Maybe these sound crappy to everyone else because they are not Masters, but they sound just wonderful to me! Especially after 16 years of infinitely poorer sound quality versions. I don't know what technical magic could be used, but I bet they could be tweaked to be even better, just like "She Still Loves Him" (even if I don't understand how it's done).

When uploading will be quicker for me, I plan to start a Rock A Little Upgrades thread.
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Old 04-19-2010, 07:50 PM
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TO JEFFD8382:

GREAT JOB WITH THIS....i can hear someone....probably stevie....snapping their fingers!!..."She Still Loves Him" is absolutely one of stevie's most beautiful recordings...frankly i dont think anything comes close to this...maybe because it never was released so it was never "overplayed" by me or the radio had it made it there....i have NO IDEA why she never recorded this....i can see an awesome video to this....did stevie write this? this sounds like bella donna era..or before...any inside info on this? i did hear at 1 point that mark knofler..dire straits had something to do w/this song..i heard something very similar instrumentally was recorded by him....i kno all his music and i have no idea what song even compares to this that he has done...any input...again...thanks for doing this....LOVE IT!!
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Old 04-19-2010, 07:57 PM
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I have no lossless copies of "What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done For You?" or "Thousand Days". I've gotten some great upgrades lately. I made a file on my iTunes to organize them all.

Yes, I've gotten a fantastic "Beautiful Ghost", but I don't know what technical things you require so as not to duplicate the work you've already done to the song.

Rock A Little-era songs I have very, very good versions of, near or at the level of "She Still Loves Him", comprise of:

Rose Garden
Mirror, Mirror
Night Gallery
Ooh Baby
Prettiest Girl in The World
Rock A Bye Baby
I Sing For The Things
Something Exquisite
It's Not A Dream
Thousand Days
Whole Lotta Trouble
What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done For You?
No Spoken Word

Maybe these sound crappy to everyone else because they are not Masters, but they sound just wonderful to me! Especially after 16 years of infinitely poorer sound quality versions. I don't know what technical magic could be used, but I bet they could be tweaked to be even better, just like "She Still Loves Him" (even if I don't understand how it's done).

When uploading will be quicker for me, I plan to start a Rock A Little Upgrades thread.
I'd LOVE a high quality "Prettiest Girl in the World"! "Something Exquisite" is another great rarity I've had crappy for years.
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Old 04-19-2010, 08:53 PM
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I have no lossless copies of "What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done For You?" or "Thousand Days". I've gotten some great upgrades lately. I made a file on my iTunes to organize them all.

Yes, I've gotten a fantastic "Beautiful Ghost", but I don't know what technical things you require so as not to duplicate the work you've already done to the song.

Rock A Little-era songs I have very, very good versions of, near or at the level of "She Still Loves Him", comprise of:

Rose Garden
Mirror, Mirror
Night Gallery
Ooh Baby
Prettiest Girl in The World
Rock A Bye Baby
I Sing For The Things
Something Exquisite
It's Not A Dream
Thousand Days
Whole Lotta Trouble
What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done For You?
No Spoken Word

Maybe these sound crappy to everyone else because they are not Masters, but they sound just wonderful to me! Especially after 16 years of infinitely poorer sound quality versions. I don't know what technical magic could be used, but I bet they could be tweaked to be even better, just like "She Still Loves Him" (even if I don't understand how it's done).

When uploading will be quicker for me, I plan to start a Rock A Little Upgrades thread.
That's a great idea.... I'll be happy to try and work with the songs. Most of the demos for those songs you mentioned that I downloaded were pretty poor in quality. Especially Prettiest Girl In The World.... this was the first semi-finished 80's Stevie demo I ever heard, and it's still one of my top favorites.

The Beautiful Ghost demo I have is the one I think posted earlier in this thread.... decent sounding, but if you have a better one, that would be great too!

Here is the result of one of my attempts at an "enhanced" Beautiful Ghost (please note the original source is lossy.. but this file is lossless since it had to be transferred to a WAV in order to be edited):

http://www.multiupload.com/X0GZ6UE3H7

I think I can do a little better.... I just have to dig a little deeper in my bag of tricks.. hehe. Like I said before, the stereo image is strange on this copy of the track, so it's hard to play with the mix in a way that can enhance the sound (particularly the vocals).

But thanks to everyone for their compliments on "She Loves Him Still".... I'm glad it made a difference!
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Old 04-19-2010, 09:19 PM
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That's a great idea.... I'll be happy to try and work with the songs. Most of the demos for those songs you mentioned that I downloaded were pretty poor in quality. Especially Prettiest Girl In The World.... this was the first semi-finished 80's Stevie demo I ever heard, and it's still one of my top favorites.

The Beautiful Ghost demo I have is the one I think posted earlier in this thread.... decent sounding, but if you have a better one, that would be great too!

Here is the result of one of my attempts at an "enhanced" Beautiful Ghost (please note the original source is lossy.. but this file is lossless since it had to be transferred to a WAV in order to be edited):
Jeff...I HAD to correct you here bud - after all the testing you've been doing and all our work on getting lossless copies to the masses. The file you mention can't be "lossless" if the original source is lossy. You just had to say the part about it being "transferred to a wav".
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Old 04-19-2010, 09:26 PM
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Jeff...I HAD to correct you here bud - after all the testing you've been doing and all our work on getting lossless copies to the masses. The file you mention can't be "lossless" if the original source is lossy. You just had to say the part about it being "transferred to a wav".
Haha.... very true. I stand corrected.

I just meant a lossless file format. I don't re-encode it as an mp3, since that can degrade the quality even more... and sometimes some of the plug-ins/processors I use do add some audio information to frequencies above/below where the source had any.
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Old 04-19-2010, 09:28 PM
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I had to do a lot of digging to find this one. I'm not a very organized person, I'll admit it.

The Other Mirage

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Dig please!!! "Gypsy" early take? "That's Alright" long version?

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Old 04-19-2010, 09:34 PM
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Jeff (and Mike)..what demos are you wanting lossless? I'm pretty sure I have a lossless What Has RnR. What else?
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Jeff (and Mike)..what demos are you wanting lossless? I'm pretty sure I have a lossless What Has RnR. What else?
"The Other Mirage" sounds awesome!! Thank you for that! I have had some of those demos before, but obviously they had been copied at least a few times over before they reached me, since the sound quality is not nearly as good. "If You Were My Love" is the clearest version of that recording I've heard yet...

"What Has RnR Ever..." would be great to start... Do you have any suggestions as far as demos that just need some cleaning up? Obviously if the sound is horrible to start with, there's not much you can do. Mike says he has a really good "Prettiest Girl...", but maybe you have a lossless of this as well?

"At The Fair" might be a good candidate to improve as well.... if you've got a lossless of that.

I know it's a pain to upload all the lossless files, so I'll stop there, lol! But I'll let you know if I can think of something else... or like I said, if there's one you think I might be able to improve upon, by all means let me know!
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:20 AM
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Lisa, thanks for looking! And finding!!!!! I'm DLing now!!! THANKS!

Jrpjr: "She Still Loves Him" was written in the Rock A Little era by Stevie about Joe Walsh. She even quotes it in the Enchanted booklet, so she obviously wrote it.

Jeff, a lot of these upgrades are from Maureen's Mystery Box that I found on CDs we had remastered in the studio when we did the Reels. I was so obsessed with the Masters that I didn't pay much attention to these. Until NOW!

Other upgrades are from the versions Lisa has been posting from Maureen's CDs. Thanks again, Lisa, for posting these, because there's a lot of hidden Stevie Gold in those CDs!

I'm listening to my best version of "Something Exquisite" and it's truly amazing! The first one I got in 1994 was just so awful sounding in sound quality. I could tell it was a great song of Stevie's, but that crappy sound... This one is great!

I don't wanna get people's hopes up too much. Maybe "incredible" for me is "****ty" to everyone else. But I would put this "Something Exquisite" on the same level as "She Still Loves Him", with even less hiss.
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Rock A Little-era songs I have very, very good versions of, near or at the level of "She Still Loves Him", comprise of:

Rose Garden
Mirror, Mirror
Night Gallery
Ooh Baby
Prettiest Girl in The World
Rock A Bye Baby
I Sing For The Things
Something Exquisite
It's Not A Dream
Thousand Days
Whole Lotta Trouble
What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done For You?
No Spoken Word

When uploading will be quicker for me, I plan to start a Rock A Little Upgrades thread.
Looking forward to that. Is your version of No Spoken Word the one that starts with "Be aware...!" ? I was listening to that one this morning on the drive in to work. I wonder if your copy sounds better than mine; I'll post mine when I'm home.
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