Stevies new project

[Christopher]

You know I've been thinking a bit more into what Dave Stewart tweeted re: " yeah we are making "album" in a very new way"

Because recordings do not move huge units like they did in the old days w/ rare exception. Recording royalties for artists are drying up, and it's no longer cost effective to have big budgets for new recordings, as Stevie was very accustomed to!!

I infer that Dave means by "new way", that Stevie is making "album" w/ a much smaller budget & utilizing someone like Dave who is a multi instrumentalist & his studio equipped with all the latest modern recording technology & roaster of musicians to call upon, to record a new solo cd much more cost effective than what Stevies is use to.

Gone are the days of recording in a mansion for months on end (as w. SYW & OSOTM), And booking multiple studio's with multiple producers & musicians over the course of a couple of years (as w. RAL & TISL). She is reigning in and succumbing to technology because she has no choice in the current music landscape. There are very few record stores anymore, and limited shelf space in big box stores...So to release a new CD/ recording she must embrace the web!! Stevie no dummy. never has been. She is very practical and knows the reality of the music industry, even if she still hates tech.

[RockALittle250]

Dave just tweeted something, and it seems like a hidden message to me:

"Yes they all want it"
about 1 hour ago via txt

http://twitter.com/davestewart

He could be referring to our overwhelming response to Stevie's recent activity, but who knows. Any ideas?

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by Christopher

You know I've been thinking a bit more into what Dave Stewart tweeted re: " yeah we are making "album" in a very new way"

Because recordings do not move huge units like they did in the old days w/ rare exception. Recording royalties for artists are drying up, and it's no longer cost effective to have big budgets for new recordings, as Stevie was very accustomed to!!

I infer that Dave means by "new way", that Stevie is making "album" w/ a much smaller budget & utilizing someone like Dave who is a multi instrumentalist & his studio equipped with all the latest modern recording technology & roaster of musicians to call upon, to record a new solo cd much more cost effective than what Stevies is use to.

Gone are the days of recording in a mansion for months on end (as w. SYW & OSOTM), And booking multiple studio's with multiple producers & musicians over the course of a couple of years (as w. RAL & TISL). She is reigning in and succumbing to technology because she has no choice in the current music landscape. There are very few record stores anymore, and limited shelf space in big box stores...So to release a new CD/ recording she must embrace the web!! Stevie no dummy. never has been. She is very practical and knows the reality of the music industry, even if she still hates tech.

I think you're 100% spot on. Just listen to her little couch diatribe on the Destiny Rules doc. She knows what's really going on in the world and biz far more than people would suspect. I hope we get some new stuff from her, because I know she still has something to say. Perhaps more than ever...

[RockALittle250]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

I think you're 100% spot on. Just listen to her little couch diatribe on the Destiny Rules doc. She knows what's really going on in the world and biz far more than people would suspect. I hope we get some new stuff from her, because I know she still has something to say. Perhaps more than ever...

And in Destiny Rules, we see Lindsey cutting tape on the reel that Stevie just recorded to! When i first watched it i thought to myself, "it's 2003, why is Lindsey cutting tape?" That album was pretty much produced using an analog method. If Lindsey did the production using digital equipment, it may not have taken almost 2 years.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by RockALittle250

And in Destiny Rules, we see Lindsey cutting tape on the reel that Stevie just recorded to! When i first watched it i thought to myself, "it's 2003, why is Lindsey cutting tape?" That album was pretty much produced using an analog method. If Lindsey did the production using digital equipment, it may not have taken almost 2 years.

Yeah, that always baffled the crap outta me too. Maybe that's one of the reasons why Stevie is insisting on an outside producer for any new Mac project. She KNOWS they can't rent a multimillion dollar mansion for 2 years to lazily record and rerecord tracks while gobbling through huge studio advance$. Those days are long gone... they were damned lucky to get one last taste of it from Warners with SYW. Plus, I can't imagine in her mid 60s that she'd wanna spend that much time with Lindsey, anyway. You lose patience for BS the older and older you get...

[APerfectLie]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

I think you're 100% spot on. Just listen to her little couch diatribe on the Destiny Rules doc. She knows what's really going on in the world and biz far more than people would suspect. I hope we get some new stuff from her, because I know she still has something to say. Perhaps more than ever...

Also, she did somewhat embrace the internet for TISL. I think she teamed up with VH1 and if you pre-ordered TISL thru vh1.com you got to listen to all the tracks before its release date. So I do believe that she is very knowing when it comes to the music industry today.

[SapphireSister]

She aint no dumb biyatch!

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Very good point indeed! I don't mind the idea of Dave being the man behind the curtain, but like many Stevie fans, I can say I'd honestly prefer he stay there vs out front. I keep wondering if this whole thing is just a decoy anyway. On the snippet of the song Dave posted, his voice appears layered on TOP of Stevie's... like something an amateur would do. They aren't singing together at all. And people keep calling this "a nearly finished song..." but to my trained ears, this is clearly a rough demo we're listening to. I guess we'll just have to see what the next chapter holds.

I think it's also really important for Stevie fans to realize we have no confirmation from Stevie herself she's working on a record. Everybody is so aflutter, making predictions she'll be done before summer, etc... but I think those are highly uniformed opinions. Anyone who has followed this woman for nearly two decades (or more) like I have knows Stevie is flakey, and never ever works quickly. I just don't want to see a bunch of heartbroken fans if this whole thing turns out to be nothing more than Stevie recording and stockpiling demos, like she's always done.

Well...well put! That's all (you said it all, so I don't have to).

[Christopher]

While Stevie has appeared to be flakey at times in the past, with pushed back release dates & projects she mentions that have never come to fruition, She now is fighting mother time. As long as she is healthy and able, I believe she wants to record as quickly as possible if the music and inspiration are there. Stevie has mentioned many times over that she does not like to labor in the studio forever on end, & in today's music industry, unless your selling like Beyonce or Lady Gaga, it is not cost effective anymore.

Being a long time fan, the endless delays really began with RAL, then arose again with "Street Angel" & TISL. "Bella Donna" & "The Wild Heart" were recorded within a year and released on time back to back, w. "Mirage" in the middle! OSOTM was also recorded within a year and released on time. So I think that if Stevie sticks w. one producer along with herself, and the relationship & creativity is fruitful, these new recordings will see the light of day....sooner than later. My guess would be late summer/fall, unless she hold it till next spring to do a summer shed tour. But it's not unheard of to release something in the fall/winter...and still tour the following spring/summer, like she did w. RAL

Stevie has toured nearly every year the last decade, whether solo w. FM or Tom Petty, and has rested on her laurels starting really in 2005, when she toured behind nothing during the "Gold Dust" tour until now, basically touring w. greatest hits. I think she must be somewhat tired of the old material by now (as evident with her adding so many covers in her solo set, probably to make it interesting for herself, or digging up an old FM chestnut that has never been preformed before), So whether she was waiting for the music industry to change or just wanted to make some great $$ on the road while she was still healthy & able, I really think Stevie knows this is the time for new recordings/songs. I remain optimistic...we will get new music.

[HejiraNYC]

Not to stray off-topic, but I just noticed that the Dave Stewart-Joss Stone collaboration has already been released as a single on iTunes- to benefit breast cancer awareness or something like that. It seems like it was only a couple of weeks ago that he was tweeting about writing songs with her. Perhaps this can be viewed as a benchmark of the speed with which he gets things done! I hope some of his work ethic rubbed off on Mama!

[RockAlot]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Not to stray off-topic, but I just noticed that the Dave Stewart-Joss Stone collaboration has already been released as a single on iTunes- to benefit breast cancer awareness or something like that. It seems like it was only a couple of weeks ago that he was tweeting about writing songs with her. Perhaps this can be viewed as a benchmark of the speed with which he gets things done! I hope some of his work ethic rubbed off on Mama!

WOW, I just heard about him writing with Joss, and they already got it on iTunes !

Go Dave Go!

[Musicman408]

I'll tell you what- all this activity with Dave and Stevie is really wanting to make me get a Twitter, JUST so I can follow all of this. I don't know how Twitter works, can you contact the people you follow?

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by Christopher

While Stevie has appeared to be flakey at times in the past, with pushed back release dates & projects she mentions that have never come to fruition, She now is fighting mother time. As long as she is healthy and able, I believe she wants to record as quickly as possible if the music and inspiration are there. Stevie has mentioned many times over that she does not like to labor in the studio forever on end, & in today's music industry, unless your selling like Beyonce or Lady Gaga, it is not cost effective anymore.

Being a long time fan, the endless delays really began with RAL, then arose again with "Street Angel" & TISL. "Bella Donna" & "The Wild Heart" were recorded within a year and released on time back to back, w. "Mirage" in the middle! OSOTM was also recorded within a year and released on time. So I think that if Stevie sticks w. one producer along with herself, and the relationship & creativity is fruitful, these new recordings will see the light of day....sooner than later. My guess would be late summer/fall, unless she hold it till next spring to do a summer shed tour. But it's not unheard of to release something in the fall/winter...and still tour the following spring/summer, like she did w. RAL

Stevie has toured nearly every year the last decade, whether solo w. FM or Tom Petty, and has rested on her laurels starting really in 2005, when she toured behind nothing during the "Gold Dust" tour until now, basically touring w. greatest hits. I think she must be somewhat tired of the old material by now (as evident with her adding so many covers in her solo set, probably to make it interesting for herself, or digging up an old FM chestnut that has never been preformed before), So whether she was waiting for the music industry to change or just wanted to make some great $$ on the road while she was still healthy & able, I really think Stevie knows this is the time for new recordings/songs. I remain optimistic...we will get new music.

All of that is very logical, and I hope that's the exact mantra and path Stevie choses to follow. The only thing that I think works against that is precisely your core argument: her age and years in the biz. Stevie is entering into her 4th decade in the records and recording biz. I don't know anyone else who's been in the same line of work for 4 decades who is putting in harder, more hurried hours than they were when they started out their careers. I don't know, I guess at this point in the game, Stevie's earned the right to work exactly how, when, where, etc she wants. My logic tells me she still has something to say, and she wouldn't want to toil away on it forever getting it released. At this point, her game should be so sharp that it shouldn't be necessary to even waste any time. But then again, that should be the case even MORE SO for Fleetwood Mac... and we saw what they did last time around!

[WildHeart69]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

I think it's also really important for Stevie fans to realize we have no confirmation from Stevie herself she's working on a record. Everybody is so aflutter, making predictions she'll be done before summer, etc... but I think those are highly uniformed opinions. Anyone who has followed this woman for nearly two decades (or more) like I have knows Stevie is flakey, and never ever works quickly. I just don't want to see a bunch of heartbroken fans if this whole thing turns out to be nothing more than Stevie recording and stockpiling demos, like she's always done.

Eh, good point...but then again how would we expect to get the info even if she WAS...

I mean, the NicksFix doesn't do sh*t with updates, and there is no reason for anyone to be interviewing her at the moment so she isnt gonna slip the info in that way, SHE is never going to "tweet" any updates... As much as I am not banking on an "album" at this point, I would not be surprised if something does in fact surface from this in the near future. (I hope! ha!)

[Hawkeye]

I wish Dave Stewart would stop speaking in code and tell us what the hell is going on. Yea Yea I know hes giving us more inside info then we ever could dream of and Stevie herself would never speak to us directly, but hell I almost prefer her out of touch mysterious ways to this bull**** Stewarts given us.

"Making Album in a whole new way" the lack of the word "an" alone pisses me off.