What old demos do you want Stevie to dig out for her new record?

[wheart]

Blue Water
China Doll
She Loves Him Still
All The Beautiful Worlds
Three Birds of Rhiannon

[SapphireSister]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Howdy! To me, songs like Forest Of The Black Roses, Melacine, and Cecelia are a bit... I dunno... callow. They're cute and thoroughly Stevie... but Stevie's such a different person these days that her singing them would be totally irrelevant. To me she's even a different person than she was while she was recording Trouble In Shangri La. There was such a dynamic shift in her post 9/11. I just think she'd feel silly digging some of those old songs up... and might even look it too. It was a young girl who wrote those songs... and now she's a much harder, technically elderly, woman.

Gotcha! That totally makes sense and there could very well be some truth to what you are saying but at the same time she's still the same person, just older. These songs are part of her history and that never changes. It's like somebody looking back at their diary - of course you're not the exact same person but those experiences make you the person you are today. Whether she's 25 or 65 they are still her songs and always will be. "Timeless is the creature who is wise".

OMG did you just use Stevie and elderly in the same sentence ? I'm obviously having issues today with the whole Stevie aging thing.

[paleshadow]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Joan Of Arc: I realize it was a B-side, but damn I woulda loved this one on an album.

Was Joan of Arc a B side? I didn't think it was released at all. I would like it to be though. I'd also like Blue Water, and All the Beautiful Worlds.

[cristochango]

Paleshadow,

you have the same name as my car

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by paleshadow

Was Joan of Arc a B side? I didn't think it was released at all. I would like it to be though.

I musta been thinking of Ricky... my bad!

I actually think she could totally make Joan Of Arc work modern day! Kinda has the same vibe to it as Illume.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by SapphireSister

Gotcha! That totally makes sense and there could very well be some truth to what you are saying but at the same time she's still the same person, just older. These songs are part of her history and that never changes. It's like somebody looking back at their diary - of course you're not the exact same person but those experiences make you the person you are today. Whether she's 25 or 65 they are still her songs and always will be. "Timeless is the creature who is wise".

OMG did you just use Stevie and elderly in the same sentence ? I'm obviously having issues today with the whole Stevie aging thing.

Yes, but there are certain things that are meant to be left in the past and not revisited. For instance, people we dated in high school perhaps. That's part of our collective whole that defines us... but just trying to revisit that relationship today would be absurd, and likely disastrous.

And yeah, it's tough seeing my goddess Stevie getting older too. But that's ok, even when she's 132 and flying by in her rocket powered wheelchair she'll still be FABULOUS.

[APerfectLie]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Enough with the skeletons from the closet...write new stuff for a new album.

Originally Posted by chiliD

Bob Dylan wouldn't resort to dredging up songs that weren't worthy then, aren't worthy now.

Hence why you don't see him re-releasing his old albums with a ton of "bonus tracks" that weren't worthy of inclusion at the time.

I completely agree, but this is Stevie Nicks we are talking about here! Other than BuckinghamNicks there hasn't been an album of hers where she used completely new material. And some of her songs weren't worthy at the time because she just didn't like how they sounded then, but what is wrong with her changing the sound? And many of her songs were "worthy" but couldn't be put on a Fleetwood Mac album because she had a few other songs they felt worked better. If you can only choose 3 songs, it doesn't mean the 4th song is "unworthy". Sometimes its just not the right moment. I don't want completely all old stuff, but revitalizing an old song or two and taking them where she wants them now would be fine with me! Granted, when her new album does come out you will hear me bitch that there were only X amount of songs and there were this many that were old so technically there were only this many new songs!

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

I musta been thinking of Ricky... my bad!

I actually think she could totally make Joan Of Arc work modern day! Kinda has the same vibe to it as Illume.

I was thinking Joan Of Arc also! I think she could do a pretty awesome version of it today.

[Ghost_Tracker]

24 Karot Gold. Amazing song, i.m.o. I think it's brilliant, believe it or not!

[MacMan]

Originally Posted by goldustsongbird

You wouldn't say that to Bob Dylan!

LOL That cracked me up... I just watched that part of the doc. last night...

Although I love all those old demos and would really like to see some of them get officially released... I almost don't want her to recreate them... They should stand on their own as is I wouldn't want her to mess with them... leave those for a remaster or something... I agree, either write something new, or at least redo something we haven't heard if that's possible...

[Nikolaj]

1. 'Space Needle'- because it's so excellently written. I think Dave could produce an awesome version of it, though I had assumed LB would really want Fleetwood Mac to do the song. Still, I think it belongs on Stevie's solo cd, too good to hold it back any longer. It will impress critics and public alike, that song, I'd think.
2. 'What Has Rock N Roll Ever Done For You'-- because Stevie is great on fast songs. It doesn't have 'too' many lyrics- though I love love 'Fall From Grace' I think you kind of can't sing along to it, with the complex, many lyrics. Of course, I'd rather hear Stevie singing than an audience, but I think the lyrics were too tough to memorize for the song to become a 'hit'
3. 'Jimmy Come On Back'-- the fast song reason, again. Love Stevie on a fast pop-rock song.
4. 'China Doll' was a gorgeous demo/out-take
5. 'She Loves Him Still' was an astonishingly gorgeous demo or out-take, and she included 4 lines of the lyrics from the song on a page inside of her 'Enchanted' box set liner notes, so that means she intends to put it on record, doesn't it? So, now's a great time.
6.. Because I love the following 60's song and don't think she will ever perform it more than the one time she did unless she records it, I'd love for her to record 'Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart'..Waddy must still have the charts for it. Falls under 'fast song' again
-- I have to say I only know of one version of 'City of Hope' and it just dragged for me, so I kind of hope she doesn't record it. There are lots of songs I've heard that I liked a lot more- I'll include 'Forest of the Black Roses' and I do love her '24 Karat' demo, though I figured that one never got put on record because it kind of has a Holland-Dozier-Holland riff that comes in and out of the song, but IF she covers their 'Itchin In My Heart' maybe that could segue into '24 Karat (Gold?)' with a note of inspiration from HDH in the liner notes. If that was the reason, that it sounded too HDHish, give em a piece of it, why not? Actually 'Jimmy Come On Back' sounds inspired by HDH too, to me. But, Stevie has said she's an old r&b singer, so I'd love to hear some 60s styled Motown kind of songs on the new album- the one remake of 'Itchin In My Heart' and her two own self-penned 'Motown-esque' songs, 'Jimmy Come On Back' and '24 Karat'..
I'm just so happy she has 4 songs finished already with Dave. I think she will keep the cd to 11 tracks, at the most, so she could be finished before June!
P.S. I thought 'Joan of Arc' was pretty dreadful content wise, though it did have a nice 'sound' to it. The chorus of it was terrible and too repeated (just my opinion, of course, go on loving it, those of you who do, as you should!)
But yikes I don't want it on the new cd

[seekerj]

Have No Heart
Blue Water
At The Fair
Something Exquisite
Forsaken Love

And I think she should rerecord "Sleeping Angel" with an arrangement closer to the demo. The Jimmy iovine version lost all the feeling.

[Musicman408]

God, there are really so many that I have no idea. On the way back from my first class this morning I was humming China Doll for some reason- haven't listened to that song in AGES.... more than a year for sure.

[seekerj]

Originally Posted by Nikolaj

1. 'Space Needle'- because it's so excellently written. I think Dave could produce an awesome version of it, though I had assumed LB would really want Fleetwood Mac to do the song. Still, I think it belongs on Stevie's solo cd, too good to hold it back any longer. It will impress critics and public alike, that song, I'd think.
2. 'What Has Rock N Roll Ever Done For You'-- because Stevie is great on fast songs. It doesn't have 'too' many lyrics- though I love love 'Fall From Grace' I think you kind of can't sing along to it, with the complex, many lyrics. Of course, I'd rather hear Stevie singing than an audience, but I think the lyrics were too tough to memorize for the song to become a 'hit'
3. 'Jimmy Come On Back'-- the fast song reason, again. Love Stevie on a fast pop-rock song.
4. 'China Doll' was a gorgeous demo/out-take
5. 'She Loves Him Still' was an astonishingly gorgeous demo or out-take, and she included 4 lines of the lyrics from the song on a page inside of her 'Enchanted' box set liner notes, so that means she intends to put it on record, doesn't it? So, now's a great time.
6.. Because I love the following 60's song and don't think she will ever perform it more than the one time she did unless she records it, I'd love for her to record 'Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart'..Waddy must still have the charts for it. Falls under 'fast song' again
-- I have to say I only know of one version of 'City of Hope' and it just dragged for me, so I kind of hope she doesn't record it. There are lots of songs I've heard that I liked a lot more- I'll include 'Forest of the Black Roses' and I do love her '24 Karat' demo, though I figured that one never got put on record because it kind of has a Holland-Dozier-Holland riff that comes in and out of the song, but IF she covers their 'Itchin In My Heart' maybe that could segue into '24 Karat (Gold?)' with a note of inspiration from HDH in the liner notes. If that was the reason, that it sounded too HDHish, give em a piece of it, why not? Actually 'Jimmy Come On Back' sounds inspired by HDH too, to me. But, Stevie has said she's an old r&b singer, so I'd love to hear some 60s styled Motown kind of songs on the new album- the one remake of 'Itchin In My Heart' and her two own self-penned 'Motown-esque' songs, 'Jimmy Come On Back' and '24 Karat'..
I'm just so happy she has 4 songs finished already with Dave. I think she will keep the cd to 11 tracks, at the most, so she could be finished before June!
P.S. I thought 'Joan of Arc' was pretty dreadful content wise, though it did have a nice 'sound' to it. The chorus of it was terrible and too repeated (just my opinion, of course, go on loving it, those of you who do, as you should!)
But yikes I don't want it on the new cd

Oh, come on! It's one of her most intense songs! If not her # 1 most intense song.

And I am not happy at all about Dave.

I think I found me another polar-opposite Ledgie! lol

[daniellaaarisen]

"Space Needle" and "Julia" are my two favorite demos ever.... along with "Forest of the Black Roses" but I agree with Louie on that one.

[Zanobbi]

All the king's horses
Space Needle
And the "rock" version of I sing for the things (Stevie, please, call Roy Bittan)