Looking for timeframe of various demos - Page 3

SapphireSister · #31 03-15-2010, 12:01 PM

I remember hearing back in the day that Goodbye Baby was about Stevie's aborted child. Does anyone believe that?

seekerj · #32 03-15-2010, 12:21 PM

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I remember hearing back in the day that Goodbye Baby was about Stevie's aborted child. Does anyone believe that?

Not for a second.

I do not believe that any song we have heard is about that.

Stevie's writing is less straight-forward than that. If there were a song written about that topic, I think the words would be a lot more cryptic.

Christopher · #33 03-16-2010, 12:01 PM

Does anyone know when Stevie recorded the 2 demos for "Lily' (Impossible Task)?
I have only heard 2 versions. The longer acoustic version & the muffled sounding, but more fleshed out version, that builds w. keyboard/synthesizer and drum machine.

I love this song & wish Stevie had pursed it to completion. It's very emotional and has a compelling narrative (which I know was inspired by the 1977 movie "Julia"). I don't know why, but I always just assumed this was a demo for TOSOTM, But it also sounds like her RAL era voice.

Also, who knows when the outtake's for "What Has Rock n' Roll Ever Done For You" & "Tied Up In Promises" were recorded?

It seems logical that these were some of the RAL era outtakes that was shelved in 1984, when Jimmy left, and Stevie took another direction. Also, I believe Stevie offered up WHRREDFY to FM for "Tango" along with "Juliet", & "Joan Of Arc", which surprises me because it really REALLY sounds like a solo song. I cannot even imagine what it would sound like if FM had recorded it.

And finally when was the "Secret Love" demo recorded, it sounds like "Castaway" keyboards so I'm thinking 77'-78"???

mikebise · #34 03-16-2010, 01:11 PM

I was told "Impossible Task" was from the Rock A Little era. However, listening to that second version just now that you mentioned, the guitar sounds like the guy from Venice who played on several demos. Stevie met him in 1989... So, I have no idea. Now I would put it in 1991 with "The Mix-Down" and "The Dance".

"Secret Love" was on Almanac in Autumn 1978, so your instincts are correct.

"Tied Up (In Promises)" is Rock A Little for sure, but I've always wondered why Stevie recorded a 1982 Olivia Newton-John single.

I am not sure if "What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done For You?" was recorded in time for Rock A Little; it could have been. For some reason, I think of it in that burst of creativity Stevie displayed stemming from her February 1986 tour of Australia with Tom & Bob:

Whole Lotta Trouble
You Like Me
Two Kinds of Love
Juliet

Just guessing, of course. But the lyrics seem to suggest Tom & Friends.

HejiraNYC · #35 03-16-2010, 01:35 PM

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I was told "Impossible Task" was from the Rock A Little era. However, listening to that second version just now that you mentioned, the guitar sounds like the guy from Venice who played on several demos. Stevie met him in 1989... So, I have no idea. Now I would put it in 1991 with "The Mix-Down" and "The Dance".

I have never heard of "The Dance." Is there another pseudonym for this song?

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I am not sure if "What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done For You?" was recorded in time for Rock A Little; it could have been. For some reason, I think of it in that burst of creativity Stevie displayed stemming from her February 1986 tour of Australia with Tom & Bob:

Whole Lotta Trouble
You Like Me
Two Kinds of Love
Juliet

Without a doubt WHRREDFY has to have been an RAL-era demo. It seems that she had not fully embraced that brash eighties sound completely until 1984 or so. Plus, RAL was the era marked by long, unwieldy song titles, e.g., "One More Big Time Rock and Roll Star" and "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You."

Also, since "Juliet/Book of Miracles" shares a co-writing credit with Lindsey, I suspect that it was something that was cooked up in the studio during the TITN sessions. In the working demo with Lindsey (which is one of my all-time favorite demos, evah!) you can clearly hear how tentative and embryonic the song is at that stage.

goldustsongbird · #36 03-16-2010, 01:56 PM

^ The Dance aka Old Fashioned. http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?lwjt1zhey1a

I've seen the date 1992 attached to it, might have been meant for Street Angel.

HejiraNYC · #37 03-16-2010, 02:05 PM

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^ The Dance aka Old Fashioned. http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?lwjt1zhey1a

I've seen the date 1992 attached to it, might have been meant for Street Angel.

Ugh... that one.

Judging from the listless, honking quality of her voice on that one, I would be inclined to think it's from the OSOTM - Timespace era. What stands out on this song for me was the dreadful, monotonous vocal contrasted with the colorful, buoyant guitar riffing in the background- almost like someone was trying to channel Jimi Hendrix. I always found that to be kind of amusing.

mikebise · #38 03-16-2010, 02:27 PM

"The Dance" is copyrighted 1991. Lyrics by Stevie, music by Mike Campbell.

Stevie gave LB co-credit for "Book of Miracles" only, as it was how he changed up the music differently than the way she wrote "Juliet". Stevie has sole writing credit for "Juliet", music and lyrics. The music on the FM Tango version is identical to her music on OSOTM as well as the original demo.

"Book of Miracles" was changed significantly, so Stevie gave partial musical credit away.

But not for "Juliet" itself, whether solo or recorded with FM.

petep9000 · #39 03-16-2010, 03:54 PM

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(which is one of my all-time favorite demos, evah!)

Mine too! Best EVER!
I place this demo around the TITN recording era, but I want to say pre-Betty Ford.

Actually, I think I've asked this before but does anyone know which was pre and which was post Betty?

WISYA
WTTR...S
Seven Wonders
WHRAREDFY
Juliet (demo)

mikebise · #40 03-16-2010, 04:08 PM

All of Stevie's Tango songs, excluding "Welcome To The Room... Sara", were pre-Betty Ford. Before the Red Rocks concert, Stevie said 5 of her songs had been recorded and the album was finished. "Seven Wonders", "Joan of Arc" and "Juliet" were recorded before the Rock A Little tour started, as mentioned in one of the old Stevie fanzines in 1986.

petep9000 · #41 03-16-2010, 07:54 PM

Hmm. And here I was under the impression that 'Joan of Arc' was a song about detox, so I placed it in the immediate post-Betty Ford period but prior to the 'Tango' tour.
How about 'I Call You Missing'? Is that a Mirror, Mirror/RAL outtake, or is it around the Betty Ford period?

mikebise · #42 03-16-2010, 08:16 PM

The "Joan of Arc" outtake from Tango is dated January 1986. There are 2 demos that preceded this in 1985.

Also, "I Call You Missing" was on Atlantic pre-release track listings of Rock A Little in 1985. The old Stevie fanzine Dreams had it on the track listing in Early 1985, along with "Chanel, Chanel", "Thousand Days", "Mirror, Mirror", "One More Big Time Rock and Roll Star" and others.

joe68 · #43 03-17-2010, 03:40 PM

Thanks for info again Mike B!

Question for you, so is the demo of "Chanel, Chanel" thats been floating around from Rock a Little or TISL? What I've heard is that its a TISL demo.

Thanks again!!

mikebise · #44 03-17-2010, 03:58 PM

Trouble in Shangri-la. Stevie even says Sheryl's name at the beginning.

I've never heard of anyone having the Rock A Little version, but it was on pre-release track listings back before the album came out.

I wish I had it!!!!!

joe68 · #45 03-17-2010, 04:09 PM

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"Tied Up (In Promises)" is [I

Rock A Little[/I] for sure, but I've always wondered why Stevie recorded a 1982 Olivia Newton-John single.

Yep, I always thought this was strange as well. Especially when TOSOTM came out and I saw "Cry Wolf" on the back cover and thought to myself this cant possibly be the Laura Branigan song.

Well, obviously I was wrong...