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Old 02-03-2010, 03:13 PM
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IS NO ONE ELSE BOTHERED BY THE LIPSYNCKING ON LIVE IN BOSTON!!?!?!?!?! I would have loved that one had there been a piano intro and a soundstage esq higher noted ending. BUT i cant even show that one to friends witch i hate because there are some cool moments with the outfit, but its all totally ruined by the WAAAAAAY to overdubbed and doubble vocal "dreams unwind loves a state of mind" where she is still singing and her face is no where NEAR the mic.


THE dance piano intro is BEAUTIFUL. And the Higher TAKE ME LIKE THE WIND ect. gives me chills, THEN it stops. No "take me with you to the sky! Dreamer! ect. just her walkin away.

Crystal Visions, Rockin and alive but her vocals are even scratchier than they are in touched by an angel.

SoundStage isVisually Enchanting. LOVE the higher part at the end.

My IDEAL "New" Rhiannon would be a spliced together DANCE piano intro LIB verse one, and two, CRYSTAL VISIONS "dreams unwind part" untill the end where shes supposed to go up, THEN splice in the SONUNDSTAGE HIGHER "take me with you to the sky, u cant leave her" ect. ahhhhh, now THATS a Rhiannon
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Old 02-03-2010, 03:30 PM
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IS NO ONE ELSE BOTHERED BY THE LIPSTICKING ON LIVE IN BOSTON!!?!?!?!?! I would have loved that one had there been a piano intro and a soundstage esq higher noted ending. BUT i cant even show that one to friends witch i hate because there are some cool moments with the outfit, but its all totally ruined by the WAAAAAAY to overdubbed and doubble vocal "dreams unwind loves a state of mind" where she is still singing and her face is no where NEAR the mic.


THE dance piano intro is BEAUTIFUL. And the Higher TAKE ME LIKE THE WIND ect. gives me chills, THEN it stops. No "take me with you to the sky! Dreamer! ect. just her walkin away.

Crystal Visions, Rockin and alive but her vocals are even scratchier than they are in touched by an angel.


SoundStage isVisually Enchanting. LOVE the higher part at the end.

My IDEAL "New" Rhiannon would be a spliced together DANCE piano intro LIB verse one, and two, CRYSTAL VISIONS "dreams unwind part" untill the end where shes supposed to go up, THEN splice in the SONUNDSTAGE HIGHER "take me with you to the sky, u cant leave her" ect. ahhhhh, now THATS a Rhiannon.
I think this is due to editing, not lip-syncing (I'm assuming you meant lip-syncing). This type of editing glitch is all over the place on the Live In Boston DVD. It's not limited to Rhiannon.
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Old 02-03-2010, 04:25 PM
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I think this is due to editing, not lip-syncing (I'm assuming you meant lip-syncing). This type of editing glitch is all over the place on the Live In Boston DVD. It's not limited to Rhiannon.
Well they did record over two nights, correct?
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Old 02-03-2010, 04:52 PM
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I think this is due to editing, not lip-syncing (I'm assuming you meant lip-syncing). This type of editing glitch is all over the place on the Live In Boston DVD. It's not limited to Rhiannon.

There is lip matching vocals issues all over The Dance video too. I still think they prerecorded most the vocals for the Dance and did a lot of redos after the video. We will never have a pristine non messed with version of Fleetwood Mac like we do with some of the old Youtube videos from the 70's.
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Old 02-03-2010, 05:23 PM
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I think this is due to editing, not lip-syncing (I'm assuming you meant lip-syncing). This type of editing glitch is all over the place on the Live In Boston DVD. It's not limited to Rhiannon.
Ok ill give u the editing. but the DOUBLED vocals i find distracting. it is a good version though. i havent heard it in along time i am going to go re-watch
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:54 PM
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I suppose I would have to vote for "The Dance" version as the best of a bad lot. I give the edge to this version due to the following:
- The block harmonies on the chorus sound really great, much better than older live performances. It's one case where the additional backing vocalists really round out the sound.
- While she doesn't try for the vocal pyrotechnic finale like in the old days, she DOES at least hit the high C note a few times in the "Dreams unwind..." and "Take me like the wind..." lines. She also hit those notes on the Dance tour and the Enchanted tour the following year, then those high notes were gone forever.

Of course, this version was far from perfect. Personally, I wish they would have omitted the piano intro and offered up at least a truncated version of the blazing instrumental section from the 70s live version. And it was disappointing that she didn't even attempt any "dream on, silly dreamer" pyrotechnics at the end.
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Soundstage because she's "bringing Stevie back"...lol..I mean the old Rhiannon (as far as the look she had on th DVD). Loved the top-hat flowy Rhiannon--always will!!
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Old 02-04-2010, 12:09 PM
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From these "Rhiannons" I have to choose The Dance one. Her voice is great there and I love the end of that there. Rhiannons from Soundstage and Live In Boston are good, average (for me as fan). And i dont know versions in Enchanted and Crystal Visions... but I know live performance of Rhiannon with Melbourne Symphony Orchestra - that´s what is on Crystal Visions? I dont know... thats also average.

I would like to add that my very favourite Rhiannon is from any show of first tour in ´75-6 (just awesome), also that one from Mirage Live Video and of course from BTM and Timespace tour. Maybe Stevie wasn´t so good like in ´75 or ´97 but it definitely sounds great, one of the best. Rhiannon was very good these days I think.
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Old 02-08-2010, 11:07 AM
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Ok ill give u the editing. but the DOUBLED vocals i find distracting. it is a good version though. i havent heard it in along time i am going to go re-watch
what part is the doubled vocals in? are you sure you are not just hearing the backup singers?
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what part is the doubled vocals in? are you sure you are not just hearing the backup singers?
Dreams unwind loves a state of mind, Dreams unwind loves a state of mind, DREAMS unwind and still its hard to fiiiihiiiind There are CLEARLY 2 stevies singing. but
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I love the way you broke it into sections Phoenix. And its true certain aspects of the song have been really great in this modern era. The Dance is overall the weakest to me, but I love the way she keeps going higher and the Dreams Unwind part into the take me like the wind take me with the sky. You forgot one key section I feel. The since 2003 "Well I Don't Think You Do" I think Crystal Visions and LIB have the best there. Im gonna take your exact spliced Rhiannon but with CV's Well I Don't Think You Do. Unfortunutly the one area all these Rhiannons suck on is the "All The Same" sections. If she ever did that with feeling or dropped it all together I think Rhiannon wouldn't wouldnt be bad at all in modern times.
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Old 02-10-2010, 06:31 PM
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I think any Rhiannon past about '79 is painful to listen to .
I think that statement makes zero sense whatsover. I'm sure you don't mean that but just felt like generalizing to make a bold statement. There are some INCREDIBLE Rhiannons post 79.

First of all if your implying that the last good tour for Rhiannon was the tusk tour then youd have to say any Rhiannon past 80' is painful.

The I'll give you the WWD Rhiannons were really really lackluster I enjoy them to an extent but i can fully understand people saying that its painful. BUT then one year later I think all the Mirage tour Rhiannons kicked serious ass. They're every bit as powerful as previous Rhiannon's. The only thing is I think its being played really inferior to prior tours, the guitar solo is just lousy.

I hadn't heard many Wild Heart tour versions until this past month when I can't find the thread so sorry for not remembering who posted it, whoever you were thank you for posting your best of the whild heart tour. Anyways on point the Rhiannon they posted was phenominal complete with lyrics at the end never heard before or after (Do you see her and i say Yes I Did)

Then the next 11 years are filled with some truly ****ty Rhiannons (RAL is OK but on a tour where i love pretty much all songs Rhiannon doesnt do it for me there) And BTM and Timespace were just too bad for words (I know I've heard some make the argument that there are some good Timespace versions but I've watched and heard many and no)

Then theres the Street Angel Tour. How can you watch either of those Rhiannons from the thread that should be on the first page of the board, and tell me that its painful. Its the excat opposite, complete with Rick Vito playing the riffs like the studio version for the first time ever live. They're incredible.

After that I''ll except your its painful to hear/watch any Rhiannon after 94. Its not painful for me unless were talking TISL tour, but it makes sense that someone would say they're painful.

Sorry Louie, but I take my favorite song and it's many live versions seriously aas you can see with my Live Rhiannon over the years essay.
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Old 02-10-2010, 06:51 PM
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I love the way you broke it into sections Phoenix. And its true certain aspects of the song have been really great in this modern era. The Dance is overall the weakest to me, but I love the way she keeps going higher and the Dreams Unwind part into the take me like the wind take me with the sky. You forgot one key section I feel. The since 2003 "Well I Don't Think You Do" I think Crystal Visions and LIB have the best there. Im gonna take your exact spliced Rhiannon but with CV's Well I Don't Think You Do. Unfortunutly the one area all these Rhiannons suck on is the "All The Same" sections. If she ever did that with feeling or dropped it all together I think Rhiannon wouldn't wouldnt be bad at all in modern times.
Ooooo! Ya I forgot about that, Yes I think that part is cool too. Lets add that tho the Ultimate modern RHIANNON spliced version! I still wish shed amp up the all the sames too. What really MADE it for me this time around was Jessica Nicks was siting afew seats away at their stop here in AZ and i happened to look over at her during that phraze and she was PROUDLY looking up at Stevie and singing along to the all the sames. it was really cool.
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thats nice that jessica went.
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Rhiannon from The Enchanted Box Set demo of just stevie playing the piano and singing is price less one of my favorite and i would say also the Live in Chicago as well but will take any version love them all .
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