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[Dodfather]

Originally Posted by Erin

I never thought anything would replace Colin Firth's Pride and Prejudice as my favorite period miniseries, but...

Also Return to Cranford starts here in the US on PBS tonight. I'm looking forward to it!

Oh, it's SO good! It wason here over Christmas and was perfect festive viewing! You'll have to tell me what you think...

[Zombie]

Originally Posted by carrie721

you win at dexter. and life.

the way i was thinking, it seems as though dexter is pushing away from the code of harry and the dark passenger, but now he is going to need guidance with the whole Family Man aspect of his life in rita's absence. so hejira's suggestion didn't seem to wacky.

however, i hear that julie benz's contract is done, and your analysis is pretty much 150% awesome.

Haha, thank you. I have too much time on my hands. But I think Dexter is one of the best things to ever grace mah teevee screen, and I wouldn't be me if I didn't over-analyize things into the ground.

I agree that Dexter is going to need guidance for the whole Family Man thing, but he'll need it because he doesn't instinctively know what the right thing is when it comes to kids and such. If Harry is just another part of Dexter, a Rita in his head would be just another part of Dexter, too - and I don't think Dexter has the "right" words to give her to say.

If he is going to get someone else in his head for family advice, I can actually see it being Trinity instead. He didn't off Trinity the many times he should've because he thought Trinity might have something to teach him about how to have a family and a Dark Passenger - he was looking for something like a new code to replace Harry's, so he could look back at Harry and say, "HA! See? Didn't need you after all, and everything turned out fine."

I think in Season 5, we'll see Dexter struggling to at least look after Harrison. Not sure if Rita's kids will stay with him - maybe they'll go with the grandparents we saw or something, since they're not his and I don't think he adopted them. He's gonna be terribly angry but not have anyone to take revenge on, since he already took care of Trinity before he knew what Trinity had done. AND he had just come to the conclusion that he COULD have it both ways, only to have that yanked out from under him in the worst way possible. He may be all Dexter Unleashed. Perhaps he'll end up making a Mini-Me out of Harrison? Since they were both "born in blood" and all.

He's also going to have to deal with cops & junk looking into Rita's murder. Why on Earth would Trinity kill Rita? She doesn't fit any of his patterns - cops are gonna be curious. Will Dex have to chop Rita into bits and hide her so cops don't know what happened, say she ran off (she already had a plane ticket)? Will Dex have to pass it off as a suicide?

PS - I talk a lot.

[chelluversu]

crap it..i forgot to mention Torchwood..did anyone watch the Children miniseries thing? ..kinda creepy ( WE ARE COMING!! )

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by Zombie

Haha, thank you. I have too much time on my hands.

Too much time you say? I heard your local post office is looking for volunteers to stand in line with packages that need to be mailed.

[slipkid]

Originally Posted by Zombie

Haha, thank you. I have too much time on my hands. But I think Dexter is one of the best things to ever grace mah teevee screen, and I wouldn't be me if I didn't over-analyze things into the ground.

I agree that Dexter is going to need guidance for the whole Family Man thing, but he'll need it because he doesn't instinctively know what the right thing is when it comes to kids and such. If Harry is just another part of Dexter, a Rita in his head would be just another part of Dexter, too - and I don't think Dexter has the "right" words to give her to say.

If he is going to get someone else in his head for family advice, I can actually see it being Trinity instead. He didn't off Trinity the many times he should've because he thought Trinity might have something to teach him about how to have a family and a Dark Passenger - he was looking for something like a new code to replace Harry's, so he could look back at Harry and say, "HA! See? Didn't need you after all, and everything turned out fine."

I think in Season 5, we'll see Dexter struggling to at least look after Harrison. Not sure if Rita's kids will stay with him - maybe they'll go with the grandparents we saw or something, since they're not his and I don't think he adopted them. He's gonna be terribly angry but not have anyone to take revenge on, since he already took care of Trinity before he knew what Trinity had done. AND he had just come to the conclusion that he COULD have it both ways, only to have that yanked out from under him in the worst way possible. He may be all Dexter Unleashed. Perhaps he'll end up making a Mini-Me out of Harrison? Since they were both "born in blood" and all.

He's also going to have to deal with cops & junk looking into Rita's murder. Why on Earth would Trinity kill Rita? She doesn't fit any of his patterns - cops are gonna be curious. Will Dex have to chop Rita into bits and hide her so cops don't know what happened, say she ran off (she already had a plane ticket)? Will Dex have to pass it off as a suicide?

PS - I talk a lot.

I know one thing, Dexter will protect his baby, and do everything possible to ensure his son doesn't become the father.

As for Rita, that's the entire point of the last episode. Rita's death DID fit the pattern of Trinity. It always started with a young boy, then progressed to a woman in the bathtub. Just because the final boy survived (thanks to Dexter), doesn't mean Trinity would stop. The questions will come when Trinity no longer completes the pattern.


I think next season it's going to be about Dexter the widowed father. With Rita out of the picture, his ability to plan his murders flies out the window. Which leads me to believe he'll quickly find another love interest, much to the step-children's disdain. It'll probably be a reckless choice (see season two), and that will make up the majority of the season. I also think Dexter will rely on Harry more than ever. Dexter will ask Harry many times for parenting skils that will prevent Harrison becoming another Dexter.

That's my prediction.

[Zombie]

Originally Posted by slipkid

I know one thing, Dexter will protect his baby, and do everything possible to ensure his son doesn't become the father.

As for Rita, that's the entire point of the last episode. Rita's death DID fit the pattern of Trinity. It always started with a young boy, then progressed to a woman in the bathtub. Just because the final boy survived (thanks to Dexter), doesn't mean Trinity would stop. The questions will come when Trinity no longer completes the pattern.


I think next season it's going to be about Dexter the widowed father. With Rita out of the picture, his ability to plan his murders flies out the window. Which leads me to believe he'll quickly find another love interest, much to the step-children's disdain. It'll probably be a reckless choice (see season two), and that will make up the majority of the season. I also think Dexter will rely on Harry more than ever. Dexter will ask Harry many times for parenting skils that will prevent Harrison becoming another Dexter.

That's my prediction.

Rita didn't fit the pattern. The girl in the bathtub was always young, not a middle-aged mother like Rita. He goaded middle-aged mothers with two kids to jump off buildings. Rita was the mother of 3. Doesn't fit the pattern. He just killed her to screw with Dexter.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by Zombie

He's also going to have to deal with cops & junk looking into Rita's murder. Why on Earth would Trinity kill Rita? She doesn't fit any of his patterns - cops are gonna be curious. Will Dex have to chop Rita into bits and hide her so cops don't know what happened, say she ran off (she already had a plane ticket)? Will Dex have to pass it off as a suicide?

PS - I talk a lot.

this is the most awesomely twisted season 5 conjecture i've heard yet. and i mean that as a compliment.

PS - keep it up.

[Zombie]

Originally Posted by carrie721

this is the most awesomely twisted season 5 conjecture i've heard yet. and i mean that as a compliment.

PS - keep it up.

It'd totally be a Doakes moment. All [IMG]http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv335/nowgozombiego/surprisemother****er.gif[/IMG] and ****.

I just figure that since Dexter has to do all manner of things in the name of self-preservation, that might be a logical possibility.

Of course, if they do decide to do a story arc with an investigation into Rita's death, they may just have Dex figure out how to make the cops think it was just a copycat thing. Since they already upset & shocked a lot of fans by offing Rita, they may think it might be a bit too much to ask the fans to also tolerate Rita not only being murdered but then Dexterized in order to save his own ass. Copycat thing is a decent way to get around that in a plausible manner, particularly since Rita didn't fit Trinity's pattern.

Either way, I always admire a show that isn't afraid to do terrible things to its main characters in the interests of making an interesting story. Joss Whedon's always been good for that, but I can't think of too many others.

PS - Don't worry, I can't shut up even when I want to.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by Zombie

It'd totally be a Doakes moment. All [IMG]http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv335/nowgozombiego/surprisemother****er.gif[/IMG] and ****.

ok, that is awesome.

I just figure that since Dexter has to do all manner of things in the name of self-preservation, that might be a logical possibility.

Of course, if they do decide to do a story arc with an investigation into Rita's death, they may just have Dex figure out how to make the cops think it was just a copycat thing. Since they already upset & shocked a lot of fans by offing Rita, they may think it might be a bit too much to ask the fans to also tolerate Rita not only being murdered but then Dexterized in order to save his own ass. Copycat thing is a decent way to get around that in a plausible manner, particularly since Rita didn't fit Trinity's pattern.

the copycat thing is what i was thinking, too.

honestly, i can't relate to anyone who's that upset about rita leaving. she seriously bugs.

Either way, I always admire a show that isn't afraid to do terrible things to its main characters in the interests of making an interesting story. Joss Whedon's always been good for that, but I can't think of too many others.

PS - Don't worry, I can't shut up even when I want to.

yep, i agree. as much as i hated to see lundy go, it really made me respect the writers that none of the characters is a sacred cow.

ilene chaiken offed a fan favorite in season 3 of the l word, but that was in service to her ego, not the story. so it doesn't really count.

[slipkid]

Originally Posted by Zombie

Rita didn't fit the pattern. The girl in the bathtub was always young, not a middle-aged mother like Rita. He goaded middle-aged mothers with two kids to jump off buildings. Rita was the mother of 3. Doesn't fit the pattern. He just killed her to screw with Dexter.

I realize he was sending a message to Dexter, yet Trinity could've beaten Rita to death, or shot her, or dismembered her body as Dexter witnessed with his own mother. It wasn't mentioned but Trinity was probably someone with OCD, and had to kill Rita in the same ritual as all of his second murders in his pattern. She had to die in the bathtub.

Speaking of Julie Benz, who played Rita on Dexter, I've been re-watching old episodes of "Sliders" (Netflix). She appears in an episode during the third season (1996), and she doesn't look that much different today. "Middle-aged mother" is a harsh term to use for her.

[GODDESS6]

i saw a marathon of little miss perfect yesterday~ the new season started last night i guess~ i am so loving this show~

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by Zombie

It'd totally be a Doakes moment. All [IMG]http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv335/nowgozombiego/surprisemother****er.gif[/IMG] and ****.

I just figure that since Dexter has to do all manner of things in the name of self-preservation, that might be a logical possibility.

Of course, if they do decide to do a story arc with an investigation into Rita's death, they may just have Dex figure out how to make the cops think it was just a copycat thing. Since they already upset & shocked a lot of fans by offing Rita, they may think it might be a bit too much to ask the fans to also tolerate Rita not only being murdered but then Dexterized in order to save his own ass. Copycat thing is a decent way to get around that in a plausible manner, particularly since Rita didn't fit Trinity's pattern.

Either way, I always admire a show that isn't afraid to do terrible things to its main characters in the interests of making an interesting story. Joss Whedon's always been good for that, but I can't think of too many others.

PS - Don't worry, I can't shut up even when I want to.

Reasons why I think Rita will be back:

-Dexter is going to be wracked with guilt (which will be a strange, puzzling feeling for an emotionless sociopath like Dexter) and Rita will haunt him in his dreams. Dexter will be obsessed with finding out how it all went down. We already witnessed Dexter's pangs of remorse (chopping up the innocent photographer), and we see how that threw him off the rails a bit.

-Dexter is going to make Rita disappear and will weave a tapestry of lies to make it all work, including giving himself an alibi that exonerates his involvement. Rita will appear to help dramatize the lies. Plus, she has to be there physically in order to be carved up!

Other potential plot elements for Season 5:

-Both Quinn and Masuka are going to be onto Dexter and will start to probe about Rita's sudden disappearance. Masuka- because he knows about Rita's mini-affair. Quinn- because Season 4 foreshadowed his overall disdain for Dexter as well as his stalker-ish curiosity about the Dexter enigma- not unlike Doakes.

-Dexter Jr. will start to exhibit symptoms of the Dark Passenger, and Dexter will either try to discourage it or to manage it (like his father).

-Without Rita to keep him in check, Dexter will start to exhibit more and more of his dark urges, especially around the kids, who will also be the subject of a nasty custody case involving Dexter, Rita's parents and the state of Florida.

-As before, Debra is going to get in the middle of yet another serial murder case and either become a potential victim or break open the case (actually, Dexter will break open the case and spoon-feed it to her unwittingly) amidst condescending notices from her higher-ups. Some things never change.

[skcin]

Project Runway premieres tomorrow. Damages season 3 premieres Mon 1/25.

Originally Posted by carrie721

your crib notes are showing, david.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200910/satire

http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/...ama/index.html

HA! There goes my diet pepsi with lime.

Originally Posted by David

Letterman, Maddow, Stewart et al. are alienating; the great Matt Iseman is all-inclusive.

SPORTS SOUP represents what's best about American entertainment & the American spirit of play & humor.

I'm sure you were first exposed to Matt Iseman when he was on Clean Sweep, huh?

Originally Posted by sara1998

Seriously? How do you have time to watch all this, go to work, clean the house, and feed the baby? LMAO!
I wish I had time to keep up with a show.

Who said my house is clean?

JK. I love my DVR. That's the only reason I can watch anything anymore. And I always catch up on shows while I'm working out. I am a little bit behind on a few things right now, but there are enough nights whenI don't watch anything regularly that I can usually catch up within a week or so.

Originally Posted by sara1998

Now that I'm done quoting everyone....

Honestly, I don't watch much TV at all. I usually just somewhat watch whatever the girls are watching. If I'm here alone, I shut it off. There are I few things I watch when I do watch though. I've always loved Grays... been my show since the first season. I'm a whore for Family Guy. Giggidy. I like MythBusters.... and now I'm drawing a blank.... uh.... If I think of anymore, I'll post. haha!

We watch Mythbusters too.

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky

I got season 3 of Bones for Christmas (not sure why I was given the third season, when I've never watched the show, but anyway) and am quite liking what I've seen so far.

That is kind of random. I like Bones too, but I don't watch routinely.

Originally Posted by chelluversu

The shows that i found most entertaining (to me atleast) got cancelled:
Swingtown and Invasion

I hate when they cancel great shows. I am still bitter over Pushing Daisies.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by chelluversu

crap it..i forgot to mention Torchwood..did anyone watch the Children miniseries thing? ..kinda creepy ( WE ARE COMING!! )

YEAH! I saw the "marathon" repeat of that...all episodes in a single day on SyFy. Great!!

I get a bit lost with "Dr Who", but that "Torchwood" season was WAY COOL.

Originally Posted by skcin

I hate when they cancel great shows. I am still bitter over Pushing Daisies.

I'm still mourning the loss of Stark Raving Mad (the Tony Shaloub/Neil Patrick Harris show that pre-dated Monk)

[David]

Originally Posted by skcin

I'm sure you were first exposed to Matt Iseman when he was on Clean Sweep, huh?

I don't know that show. Is it something I'd like? Check this out! http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoID=54764563