Is Stevie a Poor Time-Manager?

[David]

Originally Posted by silvasprings

Remember she's been talking about that Rhiannon movie thing since like 1980, so i don't think its happening anytime soon.

I think Rolling Stone ran a Random Note about the "Rhiannon" project way back in 1978. From my outside vantage point, that project appears not to be a priority to her.

I agree with JohnL that most of us don't know whether Stevie's days are chock-a-block with activity (although I do not obsequiously feel grateful for "everything" she has done, as if she did it for me, & use that as a yardstick by which to measure how other fans on the board actually feel).

I think Stevie maintains an intense touring schedule -- virtually every year, on the road by herself or with Fleetwood Mac or some other group. It's a travel schedule that I doubt I myself could keep, even for all that money. I'd be worn out. I have always thought that Stevie was the last of the great homebodies, but then what explains her choice to be constantly on the road? She's puzzling.

[starshine]

I'd say she is puzzling & she contradict's herself alot in various interviews over the yrs (many yrs that is)....Personally, as an artist ....they really do those things for themselves first & foremost....before there fans even though they 'say' its for 'us'.....There are many woman older that still release new things....one of the main people I can think of right now that is just as old as Stevie is Dolly Parton. She is always busy but she is also a savey business woman as well. She keeps up with the times , still writes,tours.....I watched her bio last night & it was very interesting. I respect someone like that....she doesn't complain about how the music business has changed she just changed with it.....Now, I know its not popular with some fans here to say anything against Stevie & what she has done or not done. Now if we'd talked maybe some 15 yrs ago when I was still crazy in all of my fandom ....I'd also say than
that Stevie does no wrong....but since its been 20+ yrs now that I've been a fan......that crazy feeling just isn't there as much .....the acceptance of what truly is .....thats the hardest part for me. Stevie claims to have written 'many' volumes of songs....I say 'claims' only cause well no one really knows except Stevie what she truely has that hasn't been released.....I think we only really know of what 75 songs of what say 1000?? I do question that # now cause part of me doesn't believe it any more.....I think its something thats just gotten exaggerated overtime.....cause I guess until I hear some more 'rare' UNR songs......I'm just skeptical right now. I'm not saying it isn't true.....just not sure I believe it all anymore. Personally, she does need to take time off. I don't think her heart is in it ....but thats my opinion. I mean no offence. I wish she'd release 'new' or old things ....it would just be nice to have them released even if its only in ltd editions or something. Really with the Net she & Mac could go far with all there UNR songs.....or extended version/outtake pictures......DVD's.......really its endless but its there choice......they choose not too and yes that is there right. I'm looking at this as a fan that would love some awesome things......Do they owe us anything : NO.......but even so as a fan I still wish for more things.....it is sad.....but I guess it is what it is......I could go on & on.....I don't make this post to make anyone angry .....just remember we all have our right to our opinions......and I think its healthy to have different opinions really.....but thats only IMO.......

[Ghost_Tracker]

Something just occurred to me - - - Just sort of one of those "random thoughts" that 'ya might get at any time - - -

It's seemed to me that in the last year or two, Stevie has kind of "gone to ground." That is, there was a time when she was being very personal with fans, not too many years ago - maybe between 2000 and 2005 or so. For example, posting her letters to the soldiers and to Sam Donaldson, etc., on her website. But now -
nothing. I'm sorry, but in the last several years, if you really look at them, well, i.m.o. there has actually been no new information and nothing personal at all, with the minor exception that she and Lindsey are apparently "getting along now."
(I'm comparing this "silence" with earlier years, post year 2000 or so, when she WAS open and personal.)
Another perfect example is how the "Ask Stevie" feature on Nicksfix came to a horrible screeching halt, never to be heard from again.

So I wonder if part of this . . . well, not really "frustration" that we're all feeling . . . more like a "puzzled, optimistic hope for more" . . . might be partly that she's actually become VERY quiet in recent years, not counting required publicity interviews for the tour and comments about making things which she first started talking about in 1978 or so... Any thoughts on that side of things?

[lilwing80]

Well, I have to say ... Thank God she didn't release the book in 84 because she still had 25 years more of experiences that wouldn't have been in the book.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by lilwing80

Well, I have to say ... Thank God she didn't release the book in 84 because she still had 25 years more of experiences that wouldn't have been in the book.

I agree with you totally.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Something just occurred to me - - - Just sort of one of those "random thoughts" that 'ya might get at any time - - -

It's seemed to me that in the last year or two, Stevie has kind of "gone to ground." That is, there was a time when she was being very personal with fans, not too many years ago - maybe between 2000 and 2005 or so. For example, posting her letters to the soldiers and to Sam Donaldson, etc., on her website. But now -
nothing. I'm sorry, but in the last several years, if you really look at them, well, i.m.o. there has actually been no new information and nothing personal at all, with the minor exception that she and Lindsey are apparently "getting along now."
(I'm comparing this "silence" with earlier years, post year 2000 or so, when she WAS open and personal.)
Another perfect example is how the "Ask Stevie" feature on Nicksfix came to a horrible screeching halt, never to be heard from again.

So I wonder if part of this . . . well, not really "frustration" that we're all feeling . . . more like a "puzzled, optimistic hope for more" . . . might be partly that she's actually become VERY quiet in recent years, not counting required publicity interviews for the tour and comments about making things which she first started talking about in 1978 or so... Any thoughts on that side of things?

she did do the barnes and noble thing.

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

she did do the barnes and noble thing.

Well THAT'S true, yes.

Based on the photographs and fan reports, I think she had a great deal of fun at that, too. . . . .

[thatgirlwasme]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Something just occurred to me - - - Just sort of one of those "random thoughts" that 'ya might get at any time - - -

It's seemed to me that in the last year or two, Stevie has kind of "gone to ground." That is, there was a time when she was being very personal with fans, not too many years ago - maybe between 2000 and 2005 or so. For example, posting her letters to the soldiers and to Sam Donaldson, etc., on her website. But now -
nothing. I'm sorry, but in the last several years, if you really look at them, well, i.m.o. there has actually been no new information and nothing personal at all, with the minor exception that she and Lindsey are apparently "getting along now."
(I'm comparing this "silence" with earlier years, post year 2000 or so, when she WAS open and personal.)
Another perfect example is how the "Ask Stevie" feature on Nicksfix came to a horrible screeching halt, never to be heard from again.

So I wonder if part of this . . . well, not really "frustration" that we're all feeling . . . more like a "puzzled, optimistic hope for more" . . . might be partly that she's actually become VERY quiet in recent years, not counting required publicity interviews for the tour and comments about making things which she first started talking about in 1978 or so... Any thoughts on that side of things?

She also shared her thoughts on Obama's election last year--that was pretty personal. Even though I know some folks will argue that there are artists who are older than Stevie doing lots of new stuff, I think Stevie is just getting older and perhaps slowing down a bit. Maybe the constant touring is taking its toll.

A

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by thatgirlwasme

She also shared her thoughts on Obama's election last year--that was pretty personal
A

Oh, well I guess I hadn't come across that.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by JohnL

People on this board speculating about how Stevie Nicks uses her time and energy is like Stevie speculating how we are a bunch of lazy asses spending all of our time bitching about someone we dont even know on the internet. Ridiculous!! She doesnt have to write another word or note in her life and she would be just fine financially and personally. I, for one, am grateful for whatever we get out of her at this point. Most people her age are heavily contemplating retirement and looking forward to it. I sometimes wonder how a lot of people on this board can call themsevles fans of hers when you use words like "has been" , lost her creativity, blah blah blah.

Touche on the first sentence of your post! Excellent rebuttal!

Obviously, everyone here is just upset that someone who claims to be so 'prolific' and 'not in it for the money' is appearing to be just the opposite: she hasn't released a solo album in 9 years, hasn't released any Mac material in 7, yet she's cashed in on the touring cow every single year of this decade. People see nothing but strings of broken promises from her.

Personally, I find the whole argument "we should be thrilled if she ****s on a brick and hands it to us" a bit weak. Why shouldn't we expect greatness from her? Why should we be happy for subpar work and performances? She's not a subpar writer, singer, or performer. The woman has a LOT to bring to the table still, even if it's a much smaller table these days.

Yes of course, I'm happy the woman made it through decades of fame and drug addiction, which very well could have claimed her. I'm glad she's still performing. But just because she's nearing retirement age doesn't mean she can basically give up on her game. That's not the way it works in the real world, and that's not the way it works in Hollywood. You're either working or you're not. The fact that she and the Mac are not recording, yet are continuing to tour is impacting their concert sales. Each year Stevie is continually playing for less people. Meanwhile, acts from the same era such as the Eagles and U2 (one is older, one is newer, yes, I know) continue to record and rake in more money than ever before.

One area I will stand behind Stevie is this: she made her name famous because she was a dreamer, impractical, airy fairy, eccentric, all of it. I wouldn't expect Stevie to work at a 9 to 5 pace. I wouldn't want Stevie to talk about how she shops at Wal Mart to save money on her bras. The woman is the very definition of escapism. We like her because listening to her music and following her life is a nice way to escape for our own very real, very crappy lives. Going into a world of gold dust women, gypsies, and white winged doves sure as hell beats dwelling night and day on being laid off, wondering how you're going to make the mortgage, or if your marriage is falling apart. I think that's exactly the reason why everybody is so pissed off around here... we haven't been invited into Stevie's world in a long time now. We all need the escapism of her new songs, as much as she needs the paycheck.

[MacMan]

Originally Posted by David

I think Stevie maintains an intense touring schedule -- virtually every year, on the road by herself or with Fleetwood Mac or some other group. It's a travel schedule that I doubt I myself could keep, even for all that money. I'd be worn out. I have always thought that Stevie was the last of the great homebodies, but then what explains her choice to be constantly on the road? She's puzzling.

I think at this stage in the game it's probably far easier for her to just go out on tour rather then figure out what the next career move should be. She could be using touring as a diversion to avoid having to make a decision.

[cactusjack]

Originally Posted by MacMan

I think at this stage in the game it's probably far easier for her to just go out on tour rather then figure out what the next career move should be. She could be using touring as a diversion to avoid having to make a decision.

Bring on another solo tour then

(presumably a new FM album and then FM tour will happen first though...)

[silvasprings]

Originally Posted by David

I think Rolling Stone ran a Random Note about the "Rhiannon" project way back in 1978. From my outside vantage point, that project appears not to be a priority to her.

Ah, I knew it was sometime around then, thanks for that. She really needed to strike in the moment with the Rhiannon thing, I know for us here it is a truly amazing inspiring song but to the rest of the world it's just that song from 1975, that made Stevie Nicks famous (and a witch apparently)...

It's a shame though it could have been awesome

[holidayroad]

Maybe Stevie hasn't recorded a new solo album because she's afraid it would be compared poorly with Trouble In Shangri-La. A lot of fans seem to think that's her best work.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by holidayroad

Maybe Stevie hasn't recorded a new solo album because she's afraid it would be compared poorly with Trouble In Shangri-La. A lot of fans seem to think that's her best work.

I like Street Angel better.