An Emotional Life- Divorce, Emotions, and Past Relationships- A Mini Vent By: Ethan

[sara1998]

Janet for President.

[BTFLCHLD]

Originally Posted by David

What if Ethan is really a werewolf?

or related to Ricky Nelson.

[Miss Vicky]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=29373

over 3 years later, and nothing has changed

Ah, good times.

I tried to warn everybody!

(and you'll notice that thread is actually two or three separate Ethan threads that got merged. He just doesn't change.)

[paleshadow]

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky

Ah, good times.

I tried warn everybody!

(and you'll notice that thread is actually two or three separate Ethan threads that got merged. He just doesn't change.)

You'd think in all that time the people who keep complaining about him would have him on ignore by now. I think some people like to dislike him.

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by jannieC

Honestly it's when people start telling each other how stupid they are and to fkcu off that it becomes a problem!

i think the "ethan" threads get so heated, that everyone thinks it's fair game to start venting about things that bother them about each other. ethan is just the platform that allows it all to go down. plus-no one knows what to do with him. there's a definite love/hate/indifference division on the ledge and those love/hates are very strong. i've grown indifferent towards him and mostly because i'm barely here so i don't have to read his endless drivel. but oh, there was a time.

3/26-never forget

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky

Ah, good times.

I tried warn everybody!

(and you'll notice that thread is actually two or three separate Ethan threads that got merged. He just doesn't change.)

well. obviously you didn't do a good enough job, victoria

BANT.

[sara1998]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

I can't believe people are saying that because they have had worse things happen to them in their lives that he's not allow to complain about his (relatively) small problems.

I never said he wasn't allowed to complain. A small, random post would suffice. His consistant 500-1000 word posts about this girl and that girl are terribly annoying. He's been told time and again, and he doesn't give a ****. I feel bad for him about his folks divorcing, but I don't think that's the huge issue to him here... it was a gateway to start in about "boy didn't get girl". I've held my tongue about his postings for years, and for me, personally, people who whine and complain about petty **** need to be told there are worse things to complain about. Everyone's had something go bad in their lives, but do we keep hashing and rehashing these things on an internet message board? Healthyminded people will find someone to talk to in real life, figure out the problem, or come to terms with it, and count other blessings. In hindsight, I suppose right now these are the worst things to him, but then, to go on and on about the same subjects over and over again warrants professional help. We are not the people, and this is not the place.

[Tango]

it's like the lyrics to a Joni Mitchell song (The Circle Game), "and the seasons-they go round and round." This sort of discussion is re-occuring, the same reactions, the same advice, the same sympathy, the same outrage. I see my same response in two other similar threads by you, Ethan:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpo...24&postcount=3

Many folks have given you the same advice. Before, now . . . but it's not clear if you follow it, or if you just use The Ledge to emote. Emoting is fine, but then you have to expect a response from members of The Ledge, as they are intended to read it. It's an open message board. Who are your messages to? Who do you think your reader is? What do you want the reader to do in response to your writings? Is it possible the girl in question has read your comments? It's a public place, and your first and last names have appeared here. Everyone googles.

[JWS]

Ethan,

Was your package to Cheryl ever delivered?

[skcin]

Originally Posted by LiamMcConville

But: WHO THE FUKC DO YOU THREE THINK YOU ARE?

The other posters complaining about Ethan have been posting on this board before ANY of you even knew a song by Fleetwood Mac. They've tolerated him for MUCH longer than any of you have.

Lucy - you've been posting on this board for less than EIGHT MONTHS. You're a ****ing joke.

Shawna - same to you. You and Lucy should be absolutely ****ing crestfallen that you can turn something this emotionally honest into a personal joke.

Marina - Who the are you to say that Ethan's parent's divorce isn't a "real" problem? He may handle his emotions poorly, but this issue is as legitimate as any.

The weight of an individual's problem is determined by their ability to cope, not another's assessment.

Here's an article written by an American psychologist discussing his experiences with language barriers. Maybe some of this is being lost in translation for you.

http://shrinktalk.net/?p=368

Bottom line: Does Ethan handle himself poorly? ABSOLUTELY. But you three should be ASHAMED for your blatant shamelessness, insensitivity and intolerance.

um excuse me that was a little bit rude.

And the "I've been here longer than you & have more posts" argument? If that gives anyone any clout, you should be bowing at my feet little boy. Doesn't mean ****.

Originally Posted by jannieC

Before Ethan comes back and begs Y'all To Stop Fighting About Him, I'm telling you now- stop fighting about him. It is not important. And Liam really, coming to this thread to defend him is ridiculous and you know it. It's an excuse to start something with posters you obviously have other issues with. Let it go.

Reactions to life's experiences are relative. What's horribly stressful for one may not be such a big deal to someone else. The suffering I see every day in my work makes the bickering on this board seem humorous and trivial. Let. It. Go.

Very true. I want to make it clear that I don't want to trivialize Ethan's experiences. But if he (or anyone else) asks for advice & they get the advice of "too bad, suck it up" then that's OK. People shouldn't freak out & rush to protect him.

Originally Posted by golddustdrummer

Who the "FUKC" do I think I am?
I guess I'm insensitive. I've been through a HELL of a life. When I say hell I mean it. Sorry if I'm not compassionate about girl problems and divorce.

Once Ethan tries growing up experiencing emotional abuse, watching physical abuse, going through a life threatening illness and almost dying as a result (twice), being told you are a mistake, and various loads of other bull**** that I don't think is APPROPRIATE TO SHARE WITH STRANGERS ON AN INTERNET MESSAGEBOARD....only after he goes through this, will I give him an ounce of sympathy.

I'm not out for sympathy and attention. Unlike some other veteran posters.

If you'll excuse me, I'll go be "crestfallen".
not.

I need to agree with some other posters in saying this isn't a contest about who's had it worse. The fact that you feel that you've had a tougher life than Ethan doesn't mean he can't feel bad about what's happening in his life. Someone who went through the Holocaust had it worse that you did, but that doesn't mean your experiences weren't awful for you.

But I must agree with the parts of your statement I bolded. Many people here post very intimate, personal details about their lives. In the past, sexual issues have come up, illnesses, lists of medications people take, mental health problems,,,the list goes on. People are free to share what they want to. BUT, when they do, they need to be prepared for the consequences, especially if they ask for opionions or advice.

Some people might make fun of you.
Some might think you're disgusting.
Some might judge you.
Some might think you deserve whatever happened to you.
Some people might think you're a psycho.
Some might hate you.
Some might call you names.

It's each person's decision how much they want to put out there. If you only want compliments & coddling & postive thoughts & comments, this is probably not the place. Go start a blog.

Originally Posted by marinnette

so if anybody wants to get more attention, i suggest they might start a personal board, or a blog or whatever. this way, there won't be any reason to criticize any self-centered attitude.

There ya go.

Originally Posted by jannieC

Ethan has been gone from this thread (as is the usual MO) long enough for everyone to stop bickering about it. Ethan is not creating the turmoil anymore, everyone else is. It amazes me (still) how Ethan can bring people out of the woodwork and that people really are calling each other names,as well as being judgmental and rude to one another based on this thread. I really didn't mind people telling Ethan how silly his story was. When you put your personal business up on a public message board, you're fair game. But the fact that now members are attacking EACH OTHER over it...this thread is getting tiresome.

Great post.

[David]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

i think the "ethan" threads get so heated, that everyone thinks it's fair game to start venting about things that bother them about each other. ethan is just the platform that allows it all to go down.

I was stuck in a long line at the market the other day. The cashier was a numnutz, apparently. So I just blamed Ethan! I was ready to KILL him, as I watched my ice-cream sandwiches melt.

Ethan, I think you troll the board. It's nothing to be ashamed of -- I myself troll the Ledge frequently. The point is to troll entertainingly. This is not Twitter or Twatter (or whatever they call it).

[jannieC]

Originally Posted by David

I was stuck in a long line at the market the other day. The cashier was a numnutz, apparently. So I just blamed Ethan! I was ready to KILL him, as I watched my ice-cream sandwiches melt.

This is beautiful.

[Stew_Matthews]

Originally Posted by jannieC

Obviously the first one is out of the question, as it would have to apply to everyone. The second one, I can get behind. What I could do is merge the new post with an old thread and ask him (and everyone) to please remember to find their old threads and bring them back to life rather than starting a new one. The problem there is that the subject matter is still going to irritateand offend, and Ledgies are still going to respond.

I'm going to say this and if it makes me a "bad" moderator, oh well. I can't STAND Ethan's posts. If I were not a moderator for the forums he spends so much time in, I would have him on ignore. I bite my tongue and suck it up and try not to encourage him to post further either by complimenting him OR criticizing him. Honestly it's when people start telling each other how stupid they are and to fkcu off that it becomes a problem!

Sorry I missed your reply - I'm in prison! - to clarify I'm rebuilding one rather than being incarcerated myself. The reply is helpful - thanks.

[LiamMcConville]

Originally Posted by skcin

um excuse me that was a little bit rude.

And the "I've been here longer than you & have more posts" argument? If that gives anyone any clout, you should be bowing at my feet little boy. Doesn't mean ****.

K.


And, did you read my post? I never used that argument to validate my point. I used that fact to justify senior posters getting pissed at Ethan.

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by carrie721

was this post intended to be a complete non sequitur? cuz it doesn't really make any sense in relation/reaction to what i said ... sarcastically ... to a friend ... who is not you.

am i supposed to feel bitchslapped?

just let me know how i should feel, since your heavy handed attempt to sound esoteric has resulted in my not being able to follow your logic, were any present.

Whoops. Forgot all about this thread. Umm... no it wasn't a bitch slap, it was a complete joke.

[sara1998]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Whoops. Forgot all about this thread.

Trust me, it was for the best.