The Different Eras of The Ledge

[chriskisn]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

That's what my friends just don't seem to understand. Under the Fleetwood Mac moniker is a HUGE body of music. Not just a ton of music, but it also vastly differs in style. Between the Mac albums and the solo ones you can hear:

Rock
Pop
Country
Punk
Folk
Blues
Jazz
Dance

I even think Illume has a hip-hop esque bass line.

Exactly. I have a genre set up on my iTunes for "Fleetwood Mac Related" which has 3185 songs in it (sure there are a few duplicates), but these songs cover all those and more. You missed out "alternative" - which is the nicest way I could describe Dave W's work with Donovan's Brain.

[Musicman408]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Ahh, the glory days . I remember the board changing ownership very well, and it was about that time I took a couple year break from the Ledge. Partly because I just got busy living life, but mainly because it seemed the people had just become so psychotic and mean. People started getting banned left and right, and I was like "I really don't need all this... I just wanna talk about songs!" I really am glad most of those people are gone though. Especially those horrible, bitchy, cliquish "cool crowd" Stevie fans. I won't name any names, but good God, there were some insufferable people. It was like the movie "Mean Girls"... but it was on a message board .

I still can't really break the Ledge down into eras. A huge new crop of fans came in every time the band or it's members released albums. I'd probably break it down into:

'97-'01 The Dance Era (I lumped Enchanted in there, b/c it rode the Dance's coattails IMO)
'01-'03 Trouble In Shangri La Era
'03-'05 Say You Will Era
'05-'08 Solo Era (Lindsey's solo albums and Stevie's solo tours)
'08-? Unleashed Era

I still can't decide if '98-'01 should be categorized as simply the 'Stevie Era.' In the end, I think no. Because the Dance was still the biggest lingering shadow, and Stevie's Enchanted Box Set and Tour were simply riding the wave of The Dance.

I do kind of like that grouping! If we could list a couple of Ledge highlights from each of those earlier eras, I think we'd be good to go!

And actually, for those past eras, it'd be cool to lists 3 members or so that really DEFINED the era- such as IrishGurl!

[David]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

And 2006-2008 coincidentally also happened to cover the era when the Ledge changed ownership

As much as I enjoyed the friendship of the Adelsons in the olden days, I have to say I think this Michele cat is one groovy gal. She gives you books to read, she has a high IQ, she has a waggish sense of humor, she is strong in polemic, she is psychiatrically uneventful, she is levelheaded & sensible, & she probably even cooks a pretty good apricot chicken casserole.

[LikeAWillow]

Remember that time Carrie broke the Ledge? Remember when Paula had cronies and Vanessa had hats? How about when FM let the Eagles sleep with Stevie, and that STILL couldn't make them a good band?

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...t=34692&page=1

^Click for a crash course on the last great era of the Ledge.





Oh, the horsemanity.

[iamnotafraid]

The greatest era began when some dude named Iamnotafraid joined and
told many interesting stories. Hopefully he will come back and share some
more, when he get's back from "the" tour.

[equeen102289]

I don't post enough to identify with any "era" of the ledge, but from the posts that I've read over the years, I'd have to say I enjoyed 2006-2007 the best. Some of the threads/posts were downright hilarious. Marissa's post above reminded me of Paula and Curtis' Gold and Braid dance (for whatever reason). I had to go back and watch it again. Kills me.

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=29402

[Musicman408]

Originally Posted by equeen102289

I don't post enough to identify with any "era" of the ledge, but from the posts that I've read over the years, I'd have to say I enjoyed 2006-2007 the best. Some of the threads/posts were downright hilarious. Marissa's post above reminded me of Paula and Curtis' Gold and Braid dance (for whatever reason). I had to go back and watch it again. Kills me.

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=29402

God I remember that dance!! Came across it on Youtube randomly, recently and had a really hard laugh!! I remember when we talked about it on here!

[bretonbanquet]

Originally Posted by LikeAWillow

Remember that time Carrie broke the Ledge? Remember when Paula had cronies and Vanessa had hats? How about when FM let the Eagles sleep with Stevie, and that STILL couldn't make them a good band?

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...t=34692&page=1

^Click for a crash course on the last great era of the Ledge.





Oh, the horsemanity.

Why does that feel like about 10 years ago?

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by LikeAWillow

Remember that time Carrie broke the Ledge? Remember when Paula had cronies and Vanessa had hats? How about when FM let the Eagles sleep with Stevie, and that STILL couldn't make them a good band?

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...t=34692&page=1

^Click for a crash course on the last great era of the Ledge.





Oh, the horsemanity.

i love you.

i want this post by sarah as a tattoo:

Getting offended over anything is lame.

Everyone should just get over everything.

i miss sarah.

edit: ****, that thread had everything. ball gags, the two girls one cup dispute, kentucky/ohio/indiana bashing, david pretending not to understand what's going on in an attempt to stir the pot, maria being a b*tch ( ), and strand quoting the mother****ing constitution in big blue font.

[LikeAWillow]

Originally Posted by bretonbanquet

Why does that feel like about 10 years ago?

Because Vanessa's post in there about what she DIDN'T want to the board to turn into was prophetic.

Originally Posted by Carrie721

i love you.

Then stop cheating on me with Strand.

Originally Posted by Carrie721

i want this post by sarah as a tattoo:

Getting offended over anything is lame.

Everyone should just get over everything.

i miss sarah.

I really didn't know her, but I miss her avatar. It reminded me of better, simpler times.

Originally Posted by Carrie721

edit: ****, that thread had everything. ball gags, the two girls one cup dispute, kentucky/ohio/indiana bashing, david pretending not to understand what's going on in an attempt to stir the pot, maria being a b*tch ( ), and strand quoting the mother****ing constitution in big blue font.

A true classic. I take my hate off to you, Ledge '07. Maybe in three years it'll rise again? Idk, idk.

[Dodfather]

Originally Posted by LikeAWillow

Because Vanessa's post in there about what she DIDN'T want to the board to turn into was prophetic.



Then stop cheating on me with Strand.



I really didn't know her, but I miss her avatar. It reminded me of better, simpler times.



A true classic. I take my hate off to you, Ledge '07. Maybe in three years it'll rise again? Idk, idk.

Sigh...I missed so much! I will now try and make this the beginning of a newly glorious Ledge era.

[strandinthewind]

I do miss the old days. Interestingly, the thread cited herein refers to 2007, which, to me, was the end of the "golden age" of The Ledge (2002-2007). It was that to me because that is when I knew many people here both on and off of the boards, which made for some great times in many different cities. Sure we fought like cats and dogs. But, esp. in the political threads, I think many of those discussion enlightened many people. I certainly learned a thing or do and was often proved wrong. But, I think many could take the lack of political discussion in ChitChat if posters were allowed to post freely in the FM related threads. By freely, I mean the friendly and often hilarious banter within the FM related discussions (note - I am not talking about the nonfriendly/attacking banter) - anyone remember the dress parody and song parody threads

But, that ended when the board was sold. The new owner does not like it when most do it. It is her board - she sets the rules. If you don't like it, leave. So, that is that. Moreover, many seem to like it as evidenced by the noticing of it this thread and I certainly am not in any way saying she should not set the rules on her own board even though I may not agree with her choices and often have not.

I do not post as much as I used to because I have huge issues with logging on. Sometimes I can't for long periods of time. After discussing it, the administrator told me there was nothing wrong with my ability to post. But, it keeps reoccuring. So, having to deal with that is no fun.

As to whether this place will ever go back to what is was before - all things must end. So, I chose to remember it fondly and try to operate within the confines of the new regime. Note - if anyone wants to post with the crew that was here but got banned en masse by the new ownership, they all post on another boards that a google search should easily locate. So, it is a little like having the best of both worlds - you can come here for a more sober discussion and there for fun and farce.

It is good, however, to see some old faces in here, like Homie and BigAl to name a few.

Nothing lasts forever.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

It is good, however, to see some old faces in here, like Homie and BigAl to name a few.

Nothing lasts forever.

Thanks Strand. I managed to stay on the (Ledge) wagon for 2&1/2 years, but finally fell back off. The friendships that were forged here, became bigger than the Ledge, and FM, for many of us. You said, that nothing lasts forever, and it's true! The wheels fell off several of those friendships. And while I was holding onto my principles, in my refusal to return, the fact is - there are several people on here, who never joined any of the other upstart boards, that I really missed having contact with. So, I'm back. And I also feel that the glory days of the board are behind it(much as FM's glory days are), but hey, at least I can maintain contact with some great Ledgies.

[SortaSavageLike]

I think we're all forgetting an era here.

The 2006-present SortaSavageLike Photo Caption Mutual Masturbation Fan Society(tm) Ledge era.

[LikeAWillow]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

But, esp. in the political threads, I think many of those discussion enlightened many people. I certainly learned a thing or do and was often proved wrong.

In some ways, these are the posts I miss the most. I was just thirteen when I first started lurking around here, fifteen when I joined, and, as ridiculous as this sounds, The Ledge was my first introduction to political debates. I never participated, but, between the big personalities and even bigger ideas, I learned so much. [/nostalgia]