Will We Ever GEt the full band treatment of Big Love?

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by vivfox

I don't know why people hate it so much. I loved Fanily Man from the moment I heard it. Still do.

Originally Posted by Black_Moon

Because that song and Caroline are two stains on a near-perfect album.

No, the "stains" are "Welcome To The Room...Sara" & "When I See You Again". Stevie should've just sat that album out entirely.

I'm assuming that since you don't like "Family Man" or "Caroline" you're not much of an Out Of The Cradle fan, either?

[Black_Moon]

Originally Posted by chiliD

No, the "stains" are "Welcome To The Room...Sara" & "When I See You Again". Stevie should've just sat that album out entirely.

I'm assuming that since you don't like "Family Man" or "Caroline" you're not much of an Out Of The Cradle fan, either?

Ironically, Out of the Cradle is my favourite of Lindsey's solo albums.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by Black_Moon

Ironically, Out of the Cradle is my favourite of Lindsey's solo albums.

Ok, then how do you explain liking "Surrender The Rain" and not "Family Man"...and "This Is The Time", but not "Caroline"?? Pretty much the same type of songs with different lyrics.

Which is pretty much what he did with OotC...just replaced the songs that were used for TitN...

Also,
"Big Love" = "Doing What I Can"
"You & I, Part 2" = "Soul Drifter"


I've experimented by subbing those TitN songs in OotC, they fit seamlessly.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Ok, then how do you explain liking "Surrender The Rain" and not "Family Man"...and "This Is The Time", but not "Caroline"?? Pretty much the same type of songs with different lyrics.

Which is pretty much what he did with OotC...just replaced the songs that were used for TitN...

Also,
"Big Love" = "Doing What I Can"
"You & I, Part 2" = "Soul Drifter"


I've experimented by subbing those TitN songs in OotC, they fit seamlessly.

Chili, you're going on the fact that you know the notes are the same. If they don't sound the same to the average listener, they aren't the same song. For instance, I don't like Doing What I Can on the album and I like Big Love (live and studio). I did like Doing What I Can in concert, but I didn't think it sounded anything like Big Love (live or studio). Although if you tell me that as a playing guitarist they are the same song, I believe that. It doesn't change the sound. Tempo, vocals and lyrics do make a difference. They change the complexion.

Michele

[holidayroad]

Originally Posted by vivfox

I love the song Caroline! Family Man and Caroline are great tunes but Everywhere which most people loved, I can't stand.

I love 'Caroline' ,too. It's always been a favorite! As for the purpose of this thread, I would absolutely love to see "Big Love' sang more like the original live.

[Black_Moon]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Ok, then how do you explain liking "Surrender The Rain" and not "Family Man"...and "This Is The Time", but not "Caroline"?? Pretty much the same type of songs with different lyrics.

Which is pretty much what he did with OotC...just replaced the songs that were used for TitN...

Also,
"Big Love" = "Doing What I Can"
"You & I, Part 2" = "Soul Drifter"


I've experimented by subbing those TitN songs in OotC, they fit seamlessly.

Different strokes for different folks. I can't explain why I like those songs but not Caroline and Family Man. You've also managed to name basically all of my favourite songs off Out of the Cradle too.

Anyway, Lindsey structures these songs in a different manner, and I think this album is the first where he considered using the lyrics to carry the song, not the other way around. Although, I agree with you about Doing What I Can - I've always found it almost identical to Big Love. Except the latter is slightly better, it's my favourite song off Tango in the Night. Which is why I want the full band treatment!

Thus, we have reached full circle.

[vivfox]

[QUOTE=Black_Moon;853077]Different strokes for different folks.
Thus, we have reached full circle.[/QUOTE]

I like Doing what I can but can't stand the rest of OOTC. And I would love to hear a full band version of Big Love. Lindsey has performed it solo on 3 tours already. Some new arrangement or its original way would be preferable to me.

[seekerj]

Originally Posted by chiliD

No, the "stains" are "Welcome To The Room...Sara" & "When I See You Again". Stevie should've just sat that album out entirely.

I'm assuming that since you don't like "Family Man" or "Caroline" you're not much of an Out Of The Cradle fan, either?

Since I am drawn to lyrics (and the story that the song is telling) first, and how the music backs them up is second in importance to me, once again, I have to jump in and defend the two Stevie songs, which are two of my favorite songs by any band at all. (If you pay close attention, you will hear that "whatsamaatababy" are not the only words to "When I See You Again".)

I'm not understanding the comparison of those two Lindsey "Tango" songs to the "Out Of The Cradle" album. The reason for my not liking "Family Man" and "Caroline" has to do with the inane lyrics that are a complete waste of my time. I am, however, an "Out Of The Cradle" fan. Most of the songs on "Out Of The Cradle" actually have something (serious) to say.

[Dodfather]

Originally Posted by FMM2

I was listening to Tango In the Night today.

I wouldn't mind them playing an all our rock version of "Tango In The Night" proper.

FMM2

YES!!! I would LOVE this!

[seekerj]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Chili, you're going on the fact that you know the notes are the same. If they don't sound the same to the average listener, they aren't the same song. For instance, I don't like Doing What I Can on the album and I like Big Love (live and studio). I did like Doing What I Can in concert, but I didn't think it sounded anything like Big Love (live or studio). Although if you tell me that as a playing guitarist they are the same song, I believe that. It doesn't change the sound. Tempo, vocals and lyrics do make a difference. They change the complexion.
Michele

Here, here!!!!

(You always have a much better way of saying what I try to say!)

[Sahara]

Originally Posted by FMM2

I was listening to Tango In the Night today.

I wouldn't mind them playing an all our rock version of "Tango In The Night" proper.

FMM2

Yes please. I've been dreaming of this for years, and even more so now that I've heard the new treatment of Go Insane. It'd be perfect.

[Black_Moon]

Originally Posted by FMM2

I was listening to Tango In the Night today.

I wouldn't mind them playing an all our rock version of "Tango In The Night" proper.

FMM2

This would be absolutely divine.

[Peestie]

Originally Posted by chiliD

No, the "stains" are "Welcome To The Room...Sara" & "When I See You Again". Stevie should've just sat that album out entirely.

I agree. I don't mind those two songs much now but I would have rather had three more songs by Lindsey and Christine. You and I Pt. I is good and then we'd have had both of them together. Down Endless Streets as well. Something else by Christine would go down a treat since TITN has got one of her very best batches of songs.

And I love Caroline! I've always thought it was a great track.

[Lala]

Originally Posted by seekerj

(If you pay close attention, you will hear that "whatsamaatababy" are not the only words to "When I See You Again".)

Haha! Agreed! I actually love this song. The last verse, that Lindsey sings, pulls my heart out of my chest every time.

[Lindsey Jr.]

I thought that it was no secret that LB experiments by using the same structures/paterns or whatever you wanna call it in certain songs?

That's why I always said that he's better when he "plays in the context" of the song or does something that's actually totally new, then he IS one of the best.