Your favorite BATMAN

[mylittledemon]

I'm going to post these results on another forum I frequent (hopefully to prove a point)...

Okay, so who makes the best Batman/Bruce Wayne?

[iamnotafraid]

Without a doubt............ADAM WEST.
No other Batman ever pulled a sardine out of his utility belt.

Baile number two. Toughest Batman.

Keaton three. Way too small.

Kilmer four. He can't be Batman, he's Doc Holiday.

Clooney worst ever Batman.

[mylittledemon]

I knew some folks would pick Adam West, but it still hurts my testicles when I hear it.

[Dodfather]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

I knew some folks would pick Adam West, but it still hurts my testicles when I hear it.

Haha! I almost picked Adam West for a laugh because lets face it, the old show is ridiculously fun, and that 1966 movie is hilarious! Got to be Michael Keaton though. In the name of God...nobody can possibly pick George Clooney!

I do love the two more recent Batman movies (apart from Katie Holmes...aaargghhh!) but in The Dark Knight, which I think is better, Christian Bale's Batman voice really, really gets annoying! Gotta loooooove Maggie Gyllenhall though!

demon, are you aware of the following book:

http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Unmaske...0769652&sr=8-1

It's this guys phD thesis, bits of it are underdeveloped but it's an interesting read. There are better ones out there but this is the only one I own.

If you're a comic book/movies fan where do you stand on Superman? He was the one for me growing up and I've never grown out of it! I'll fight long and hard for Superman Returns and the early episodes of Lois and Clark to get their due respect, haha!

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by Dodfather

If you're a comic book/movies fan where do you stand on Superman? He was the one for me growing up and I've never grown out of it! I'll fight long and hard for Superman Returns and the early episodes of Lois and Clark to get their due respect, haha!

Christopher Reeve will ALWAYS be Superman.

I enjoyed the freshness of Superman Returns...and the fact that they incorporated the soundtrack to the original films into it. I also like that the storyline was taking place several years after the events of Superman II.

But, I did not like the portrayal of Superman by brandon routh. Nice guy... good actor in other movies...Just not Superman to me. Kevin Spacey didn't quite get Lex Luthor right either. I think this is the fault of the material and not really the actors though. And being even more picky... I don't like what they did to the suit. especially the "S' Shield. Totally pointless.

If you like Superman, I suggest the Dick Donner cut of Superman II (its out on bluRay now) and its amazing. I always loved Superman II anyway, but this new cut makes it even better.

[Dodfather]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Christopher Reeve will ALWAYS be Superman.

I enjoyed the freshness of Superman Returns...and the fact that they incorporated the soundtrack to the original films into it. I also like that the storyline was taking place several years after the events of Superman II.

But, I did not like the portrayal of Superman by brandon routh. Nice guy... good actor in other movies...Just not Superman to me. Kevin Spacey didn't quite get Lex Luthor right either. I think this is the fault of the material and not really the actors though. And being even more picky... I don't like what they did to the suit. especially the "S' Shield. Totally pointless.

If you like Superman, I suggest the Dick Donner cut of Superman II (its out on bluRay now) and its amazing. I always loved Superman II anyway, but this new cut makes it even better.

Man, I had this pre-ordered in the massive 13 disc box set that came out a couple of years ago and I was SO excited to finally see that film the way it should have been done. Damn the Salkinds and their penny pinching! The Donner cut is is fantastic, particularly the first half hour and with Lois figuring it out etc. So much better than what Richard Lester did.

Superman II was always my favourite too, I didn't really start to love the first one until I was afew years older because as a kind you're just waiting for Superman to appear and it takes an hour for that to happen in the first move. An excellent, important hour but that's a long time when you're a kid.

Superman III will always have a special place in my heart. Yes, Richard Pryor takes over the film and the direction is questionable and the tone too slapstick but the fight in the scrapyard is AWESOME. Vera getting sucked into the computer still freaks me out too.

I refuse to discuss Superman IV: The Death Of The Franchise.

I have never been more excited about a film's release than Superman Returns and I was suked in from the minute those brilliant credits started. Such an homage to the first film. Too much so for some people and that's why it came in for a bit of criticism. There's so much in the film for fans ("you really shouldn't smoke" really made me smile) and yes, the score is wonderful. John Ottman did an incredible job at keeping the old musical cues and leitmotifs in while still making it sound original enough.

I thought Kevin Spacey was GREAT! Sinister and funny in equal measure, just how I've always thought Lex should be. He was the best thing about the film. I thought Brandon Routh was really good actually, although Kate Bosworth wasn't great. Then again, I've never thought Lois was that great a character, always a little annoying.

There has to be a sequel. Bryan Singer has said on several ocassions that he'll go all "Wrath of Khan" on it and that there will be a lot more action from the word go. In this way it will make the 2 films very similar to the original two with Christopher Reeve. That seemed to be the major sticking point with critics and the audience, the tone of the film is not your typical super hero action movie. It's a romance about the wronged woman and about what happens when we discover that Superman has flaws: ie. how could he leave? He's not supposed to get lonely, he's Superman.

The suit never bothered me at all, although I know a few people who were pissed off by it. I was just tooexcited to see him back on the big screen!!

I want General Zod for the next villain.

Oh dear, my fanboy geekdom may have taken over here...

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by Dodfather

I want General Zod for the next villain.

Oh dear, my fanboy geekdom may have taken over here...

I have to respectfully disagree with you about Lex Luthor. even though I generally love Kevin Spacey. Again, I think it was the material. Hard to usurp Gene Hackman's place there, either. Speaking of usurping the throne...general Zod?! I dont know if anyone can outdo Terrence Stamp there either. I truly believe they all just put the bat on the ball in terms of those performances.

I agree with you about the junkyard fight in Superman 3... even though I don't like that movie on the whole.

[Dodfather]

I don't think it's about topping other performances. Terence Stamp is too good as Zod to be bettered - deliciously evil! Same goes for Hackman's Luther. It is the one...but I still appreciate what Spacey did with it and hopfully they'll get someone who can play Zod well, if differently.

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by Dodfather

I don't think it's about topping other performances. Terence Stamp is too good as Zod to be bettered - deliciously evil! Same goes for Hackman's Luther. It is the one...but I still appreciate what Spacey did with it and hopfully they'll get someone who can play Zod well, if differently.

Well what I meant with Zod was...there's not a lot to go off on (comic or graphic material that is). So I guess Zod is really one interpretation that was put "up there" by Terrence Stamp. It's hard to see him played by anyone else. I'm not saying it's possible. Frankly, I think for Superman to work they need to cast another guy as Clark Kent...go back to something closer to the original costume and get that magic back. I also think Braniac is a villain better served for these times (He represents a global/unviersal threat) and has yet to be explored.

[golddustdrummer]

I had to pick Michael Keaton...he was the first Batman I remember. lol
Batman Returns!

Danny DeVito scared the sh!t out of me in that movie.

[Ghost_Tracker]

Okay but what is the best Batman MOVIE?

I would definitely vote for "The Dark Knight" - - - There's SO many good lines in that movie!!!

[mylittledemon]

Funny that Keaton seems to be winning here. I'm running the same "poll" on another forum I frequent and Bale is winning by a large margin. Different strokes for different folks eh?

And which one of you jokers picked Clooney?

[LukeA]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Funny that Keaton seems to be winning here. I'm running the same "poll" on another forum I frequent and Bale is winning by a large margin. Different strokes for different folks eh?

I think its more a matter of the age demographic. If you're under 21, of course you're going to think that Bale is #1, because The Dark Knight seems to be best movie of your generation.

Those who've been watching these movies since the beginning can look past the production values and evaluate the performances, where Keaton clearly shines.

[Dodfather]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Well what I meant with Zod was...there's not a lot to go off on (comic or graphic material that is). So I guess Zod is really one interpretation that was put "up there" by Terrence Stamp. It's hard to see him played by anyone else. I'm not saying it's possible. Frankly, I think for Superman to work they need to cast another guy as Clark Kent...go back to something closer to the original costume and get that magic back. I also think Braniac is a villain better served for these times (He represents a global/unviersal threat) and has yet to be explored.

I'm definitely in a minority because I'm not keen on Brainiac at all. Everyone else seems to be though and Bryan Singer has said that he may well sue him if the sequel ever happens. I really like what they did with Brainiac in Smallville though, very interesting.

That said, what they did with Zod was better! Having Zod posess Lex Luthor, genius.

[Dodfather]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Funny that Keaton seems to be winning here. I'm running the same "poll" on another forum I frequent and Bale is winning by a large margin. Different strokes for different folks eh?

And which one of you jokers picked Clooney?

I think Christian Bale is really good at doing the playboy thing for Bruce Wayne, and The Dark Knight is an amzing film, but that damn gravelly Batman voice just becomes annoying!

I also prefer Batman Returns to Batman.

George Clooney as best Batman..haha! I thought someone would...