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Old 03-17-2003, 08:11 PM
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oohhh...

Wow...I like it when I am surprised and all of my 2nd guessworking is thrown out the door.

It doesn't sound anything like I imagined. In fact, I just told a friend of mine the other day that I figured Sheryl Crow would be doing keyboards on this song because I didn't think it would work without them.

I am happy to say I was wrong (Mark this date...)

I love Stevie's voice, I love Lindsey's production and guitar work...

I am glad I have the other versions because they are so good, but this is perfect for the new album...

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Old 03-17-2003, 08:11 PM
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I'll bet it's because Lindsey writes better songs, and the poll participants instinctively realize that.
But apparently the buying public doesn't.


(That was just ripe for the picking, so I had to go there. But I'm one of Lindsey's biggest fans, so I can say it.)



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Old 03-17-2003, 08:40 PM
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anyone got a clip for those of us on college campuses?

email me!!! PLEASE!

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Old 03-17-2003, 08:46 PM
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Hey Anthony... it's really great to see you posting again.
You can find an mp3 the song on the mainpage of Stevie Nicks Illusions.

Keep in touch!



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Default Speaking of bad grammar...

As much as I like them, the Backstreet Boys' songs have incorrect grammar. The Boys didn't write either of these songs, btw.

This is from "I'll Never Break Your Heart" a HUGE hit song.

"As time goes by you
Will get to know me
A little more better"

More better?!!?!? EEEK!! LOL

This one is from "All I Have to Give", another HUGE hit song.

"I don't care if he buys you nice things
Does his gifts come from the heart - I don't know"

Does his gifts? WTH?!?! LOL

Anywho...alot of songwriters use incorrect grammar, does that make the song less of a hit...apparently not.
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Old 03-17-2003, 08:49 PM
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Wink The clip is already posted..

You can download it at...

http://www.stevienicksillusions.home...leatyoump3.mp3


Hey...but is that really a NEW STEVIE VOCAL? Why has she been holding back on us vocally for the last decade? Does it take Lindsey to push her vocally? Anyone? Sheryl got us that one note in head voice in the track, "It's Only Love" ["You melted all the ICE"] and on "Sorcerer" [MiserYYYYY] but I had no idea she could push her voice continually high like she has on this track. Man. Stevie. If you are out there. Thanks for getting off your lazy butt. [just a joke...ducking] Keep up the good work.
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Old 03-17-2003, 09:13 PM
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Could someone please explain where this damn grammar error is? I'm an moron I suppose because I cannot hear it. Thanks.

And also good point Johnny Stew. If it is that atrocious of an error, wouldn't Mr. Anal himself (in a good way, that is), Lindsey Buckhingham, who takes years to relentlessly edit his work... wouldn't he have taken the time to go back and make sure that the error was fixed? Obviously he doesn't care, and Stevie doesn't, so why should we? I think we need to get over it. Let it go...
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Old 03-17-2003, 09:19 PM
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Yeah, all those countless hours of listening to rock 'n roll for the past 25 years count for nothing in terms of appreciating the art form just because I find a glaring grammatical error -- one that could have been easily fixed mind you -- bothersome. Never mind all those hours I have spent PLAYING rock 'n roll guitar either. Boy, what was I thinking?

And by the way, it ain't the "can" vs. "could" issue that's the real problem. It's the "ran" vs. "run" thing. Stevie Nicks is not unnerring, folks. It's OK to admit she made a stupid grammatical error in a song. Gee, you'd be hard-pressed to find someone more dedicated to Ms. Nicks than Sodascouts, but I don't see her excusing the error by saying it's OK because it's only rock 'n roll.
Okay, you have a point but exactly what are the words to Louie Louie?
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Old 03-17-2003, 09:26 PM
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It's OK to admit she made a stupid grammatical error in a song. .
I don't think people are having a problem admitting that she made a gramatical error. I mean who really gives a crap anyway. She's made more mistakes in her life than the combined mistakes of everyone I know personally.

I think the issue is: Why bother harping on it? Instead of a reacting to the fantastic production of a highly anticipated song for many fans, and its fantastic vocals and instrumentation, it does seem a little silly to nit pick on a gramatical error. I think Stevie's hard core fans will easily admit that she is falible, and that she has indeed made mistakes in her life and career. But they have more of a problem with people who sometimes seem to like to point out each and every or her errors and downfalls, no matter what. Just my opinion.
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Old 03-17-2003, 09:33 PM
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I'm yet to find out if I actually like those arab arrangements and the weird guitar playing... They remember me to "Caroline" from Tango In The Night. And turning something like somehow the continuation of "Silver Springs", or a response to "Go Your Own Way" into "Caroline" was not what I expected. I liked it, but... not that much. I'm still more fond of "Say You Will" and "Thrown Down".

About the lyrics, I believe they are most likely the same as the demos existing, so nothing new about it. It's a terrific song. Stevie's vocals are also great. I agree about the questioning: did she record the vocal now? If so, congratulations... it's indeed amazing.

The grammar mistake... being a non-English speaker myself, I didn't note it, therefore I didn't pay attention to it originally. So go on discussing about it, you English purists...


Song of the moment - Smile At You


P.S.: In the third listen, I find out that I like the song even more.
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Old 03-17-2003, 09:33 PM
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Okay, you have a point but exactly what are the words to Louie Louie?
lol, gldstwmn!!

"this is rock n roll, it ain't no english class!"

but really, I agree with Smthngofadreamr's post above ^ let's get back to the AWESOME SONG!!

everybody "can't get no satisfaction" I guess... hee hee!!
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Old 03-17-2003, 10:19 PM
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But apparently the buying public doesn't.
People weren't lining up to pick up Picassos either when he was around.
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Old 03-17-2003, 10:22 PM
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I think this version lacks a certain punch. I SO wanted the song to kick into high gear at some point, even towards the end. But it doesn't.
Truth be told, this was never one of my favorite demos. To me, this was always an example of a song that had all the right intentions, even the right pathos, but just never delivered in the lyrics (grammatical error or not ). It's obvious she chose the words in the chorus she did in order to get the rhyme, so I doubt it was an error, per se, but a deliberate oversight for the sake of the rhyme.

And perhaps "Mr. Anal" WAS bugged by the error, and that's why he chose to blur that specific lyric in layers of vocals and production! Just a thought...
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Could someone please explain where this damn grammar error is? I'm an moron I suppose because I cannot hear it. Thanks.

Hi,

Stevie has made a very common error in that she hasn't kept her verbs consistent.

"I should have turned away and ran" might sound OK at first to some people, but let's take out the "turned away" and see what's left: "I should have ran." Obviously that's wrong. Both verbs have to be in that "have" tense to match up. Correct: "I should have turned away and run."

The other mistake is the "can." Again, tense-related problem here. "Should" matches up with "could," not "can." "I should have turned away and run as fast as I could."

I think the reason no one fixed it is because the mistakes, ran/can, are the words that make up the rhyme. Stevie would have had to make a lyrical change- she couldn't have just replaced the words. I guess it was a case of two wrongs making a right, in their eyes. lol
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Old 03-17-2003, 10:26 PM
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I don't think people are having a problem admitting that she made a gramatical error. I mean who really gives a crap anyway.
Well, I do.

Hey, guys, I didn't expect too many people to agree with me here. Some couldn't even tell what the problem was.

So the chipping away at the quality of pop culture goes on and the nation dumbs down a little more. So what?
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