Miss California Controversy (from Rumours)

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by jwd

Stevie ROCKS, Lindsey ROCKS, Perez is a BITCH, not Miss California!!

You're right. Miss California is not a BITCH. She's a F***ING HATE-FILLED DIMWITTED BITCH!!

[RockALittle250]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

You're right. Miss California is not a BITCH. She's a F***ING HATE-FILLED DIMWITTED BITCH!!

Nah...She's just waaaaay over-exposed. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but her 15 minutes are up!

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by RockALittle250

Nah...She's just waaaaay over-exposed. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but her 15 minutes are up!

I think it's one thing to air her ignorant views on national television, but it's another thing to sign up with the devil and enter a lobbying campaign around said ignorant views. She's disgusting, and quite frankly I think Perez Hilton was actually not harsh enough on her. She is the symbol of everything wrong with America today.

[ontheEdgeof17]

^Agreed.

The thing I HATE most about this world are those who say they follow the Bible, but only certain passages and ignoring those they choose not to practice to fit their lifestyle. I think she is one of those people.

[ChristyL17]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

^Agreed.

The thing I HATE most about this world are those who say they follow the Bible, but only certain passages and ignoring those they choose not to practice to fit their lifestyle. I think she is one of those people.

Completely agree with you!!! So hypocritical.

[RockALittle250]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I think it's one thing to air her ignorant views on national television, but it's another thing to sign up with the devil and enter a lobbying campaign around said ignorant views. She's disgusting, and quite frankly I think Perez Hilton was actually not harsh enough on her. She is the symbol of everything wrong with America today.

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

^Agreed.

The thing I HATE most about this world are those who say they follow the Bible, but only certain passages and ignoring those they choose not to practice to fit their lifestyle. I think she is one of those people.

Originally Posted by ChristyL17

Completely agree with you!!! So hypocritical.

I should have just kept my mouth shut...this is a hot topic

[carol7lynn]

Originally Posted by RockALittle250

I should have just kept my mouth shut...this is a hot topic

No you didn't err. Why? Miss California, despite what some people might think, has a right to her opinion. To quote Voltaire: "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Freedom of expression (She does not support gay marriage.) and the right to peaceful assembly (lobby/special interest group participation) are constitutionally guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. She is not the devil's stooge nor is she a hate filled dim wit or even a bitch because she does not believe in gay marriage. She didn't engage in gay bashing in her answer to the pageant judges' question and the lobby group that she is a member of has not engaged in or advocated hate crimes against gays. The punishment some people are leveling at her does not fit the crime.

The real issue is why did Perez think it necessary to bash Lindsey? Did Lindsey snub him back stage? Or does he think it PC to be a Lindsey hater if you are a Stevie lover? Or is he just an attention grabber? You know say something off the wall just to stir the pot. Who knows.


Carol Lynn
SoCalGal

[Tusk!]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I think it's one thing to air her ignorant views on national television, but it's another thing to sign up with the devil and enter a lobbying campaign around said ignorant views. She's disgusting, and quite frankly I think Perez Hilton was actually not harsh enough on her. She is the symbol of everything wrong with America today.

How is she the symbol of everything wrong with America today? I would bet that the majority of Americans share her viewpoint on gay marriages. She only gave her honest answer to a question and the media has prolonged the controversy much longer than it needs to be.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by carol7lynn

No you didn't err. Why? Miss California, despite what some people might think, has a right to her opinion. To quote Voltaire: "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Freedom of expression (She does not support gay marriage.) and the right to peaceful assembly (lobby/special interest group participation) are constitutionally guaranteed in the Bill of Rights.

Okay then. Then I want to see the KKK burning crosses on national television every night. And I want to see Adolph Hitler footage on national television every night so that Jews will sympathize with where he is coming from. There is freedom of expression, and then there is just spewing and encouraging hatred. See the difference? Sure, she has a right to free speech, and I have a right to call her a stupid c***y f***ing b!tch.

She is not the devil's stooge nor is she a hate filled dim wit or even a bitch because she does not believe in gay marriage.

Um, excuse me? She is basically saying that 10% of the population deserves to be second class citizens, by virtue of a congenital trait and/or orientation. If she said that blacks should not be allowed to marry or that people from different races should not be allowed to marry, would she be a "hate filled dim wit" bitch then? Oh... and you can't deny that, regardless of what she said, the b!tch cannot string a coherent thought or sentence together.

The punishment some people are leveling at her does not fit the crime.

I agree- she should have had her Miss California crown rescinded as well as all of the vituperative from the mainstream media.

[LukeA]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Okay then. Then I want to see the KKK burning crosses on national television every night. And I want to see Adolph Hitler footage on national television every night so that Jews will sympathize with where he is coming from. There is freedom of expression, and then there is just spewing and encouraging hatred. See the difference? Sure, she has a right to free speech, and I have a right to call her a stupid c***y f***ing b!tch.

So, we're comparing the legislative denial of gay marriage to Americans lynching blacks and the Holocaust?

Way to make a level-headed, logical cause seem loopy and ignorant.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by Tusk!

How is she the symbol of everything wrong with America today? I would bet that the majority of Americans share her viewpoint on gay marriages. She only gave her honest answer to a question and the media has prolonged the controversy much longer than it needs to be.

First of all, who cares what the "majority of Americans" think about marriage equality? It's a civil rights issue that should not be subject to the whims of popular opinion. Do you think the majority of Americans were in favor of civil rights and interracial marriage back in the sixties? Do you think the majority of Americans were in favor of abolishing slavery in the early 1800's?

Secondly, this is just a quick list of how Miss Prejean offends me:

1. Her ignorant views on marriage equality/gays, obviously.

2. She is a terrible role model and an unfortunate stereotype of weak women that should have gone extinct decades ago. She is all veneer- fake tan, fake hair, fake boobs, tarted up like a trashy whore- and she has absolutely zero substance or any apparent brainpower whatsoever. Stupid people offend me in general. But stupid people who try to overcompensate by playing up the physical attributes is just beyond tragic to me.

3. Her hypocrisy of being such a devoutly religious person with "family values," yet being more than willing to parade around half naked on stage (and fully naked in pictures). What is that old saying about people who live in glass houses?

4. She is trying to milk her 15 minutes of fame by spewing even more hatred- a media whore if there ever was one.

etc...

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by LukeA

So, we're comparing the legislative denial of gay marriage to Americans lynching blacks and the Holocaust?

Way to make a level-headed, logical cause seem loopy and ignorant.

I didn't say it was equivalent to killing people. But the source/intent is identical: hatred.

[David]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Oh... and you can't deny that, regardless of what she said, the b!tch cannot string a coherent thought or sentence together.

You really don't like her, do you?

I think she's cool! She'd be good in a new grindhouse flick!

[gldstwmn]

Carrie Prjean took religous politics into a place where diplomacy should reign supreme. That is what Miss USA is all about. She fukced up and should be dethroned. If she wants to spread her opinion, she can practice her right to free speech by taking a job with that committee she was snuggling up to after her pr debacle.

[LukeA]

WTF cares what a dimwitted beauty queen thinks? She was asked the question in the pageant, and she answered it. Everything after has been instigated by hyperventilating indignation that does more to make the same-sex marriage issue look unstable and unfocused than anything else.