Why is Stevie so much bigger then her female peers - Page 2

ShangriLaTroubl · #16 04-30-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by David

She does to you. But a Pat Benatar fan has a bigger emotional connection to Pat Benatar.

Maybe I'm wrong, but can't imaging many Pat Benatar's fans having an "emotional connection." Stevie connected with her fans in a unique way, starting with Fleetwood Mac and reinforcing it with a successful solo career.

There's so many factors that have contributed to Stevie's success and longevity.

1.) The soap opera aspect of Fleetwood Mac.
2.) The MUSIC and SUCCESS of Fleetwood Mac.
3.) A successful solo career
4.) The fact that she has had success with Fleetwood Mac AND solo, late in her career. The Dance (huge success), TISL (moderate success), as well as various #1 dance hits in the last few years.
5.) The fact that Stevie's lyrics were unique, as were her style and voice.

David · #17 04-30-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl

Maybe I'm wrong, but can't imaging many Pat Benatar's fans having an "emotional connection."

Tell that to the Benatar fans.

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Stevie connected with her fans in a unique way, starting with Fleetwood Mac and reinforcing it with a successful solo career.

What was so unique about it? I don't understand. I used to be a big fan of Rickie Lee Jones, & her fans always interacted with Rickie Lee's life & work in much the same way as I saw Stevie's fans interact with hers.

You guys are treading dangerous waters if you're saying that the fans of other beloved singers don't get as emotional as you do.

Travis · #18 04-30-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by David

She does to you. But a Pat Benatar fan has a bigger emotional connection to Pat Benatar.

Yes David, to me she does. I should have been clearer. While Pat fans surely have an emotional connection to Pat, what I meant to convey is that Stevie seems to have had more of an impact on the public as a whole, more so than the other ladies mentioned, which is why I feel she has lasted longer (or at least there seems to be more of an interest in her) over the other ladies.

strandinthewind · #19 04-30-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by carrie721

you stole my answer.

The early bird gets my worm

carrie721 · #20 04-30-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

The early bird gets my worm

i don't think i would have any chance of getting your worm, unless i were holding a pair of revlon angled tweezers.

GoldDustOrphan · #21 04-30-2009, 03:00 PM

Pat Benatar & Blondie have teamed-up for a handful of shows this summer.

What a fantasy double-bill.

They perform here in Boston in August at the Bank of America Pavilion, the same venue Stevie performed at last summer.

baboles · #22 04-30-2009, 03:04 PM

Stevie is fortunate enough to have hits with Fleetwood Mac and as a solo artist.

Blondie had quite a few hits, but Debbie Harry's solo work didn't catch on with the public. Debbie's first solo album KooKoo was pretty cool and sold 500,000 copies, but didn't have any hit singles. Blondie's music is very eclectic and the band's style and popularity had faded away by the mid 1980s. I still don't think Blondie gets the credit they deserve.

I love Pat Benatar, but I don't feel that much of an emotional connection with her music. Her early work is more in-your-face rock and roll. It makes you wanna put your fist in the air and just rock out. She faded out as well by the late 1980s.

Stevie and Fleetwood Mac have always managed to be unique while still being commercial enough to sell records/tickets and keep their popularity.

Jondalar · #23 04-30-2009, 03:11 PM

I think that Stevie's music calls to outsiders and people who feel like they are misunderstood. Her music is a welcome escape and they don't forget her.

Cornflake Girl · #24 04-30-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamMcConville

Fleetwood Mac

Perfect.

Just from a UK perspective, I actually wouldn't say Stevie is a 'bigger' star than Debbie Harry nor Heart. In particular, Debbie has an iconic status over here. In highstreet stores (ie Topshop) they even sell t-shirts with her likeness on them and most young people are familiar with her, and her music. I don't know many people under 30 over here who are familiar with Stevie or her work. Blondie still play huge venues over here, the Mac nor Stevie haven't played the UK for years.

starshine · #25 04-30-2009, 05:42 PM

Lets see.....I really like Heart & Pat Benatar and Debbie....than I could also add to that mix--Annie Lennox or Natalie Merchant.....I'd say they all have had there moments in the spotlight so to speak. I'd also say (I'd put Stevie here solo & with Mac)....most all of these artists appeal has dimmed .....even Stevie's has. No artist (solo) or group can stay on top forever....all have had dips in there careers. Plus new artists come up & take the spotlight away from the older artists...thats the way it is. I don't think this makes Stevie a better artist either. Besides Stevie I like those artists mentioned above (and of course many others--not just female rockers either Rock groups other singers).....Although I do think other than the release of TISL and SYW....we have really no new music from Stevie. I personally don't count CV or the new live cd/dvd either cause well most of its rehashed of old hits.....I think if Stevie had released 'new' stuff more often....it might be different.....So yes I may love Stevie's music solo and with Mac but that doesn't make other artists just as important to me. Though I may not 'collect' them like I have Stevie.....that doesn't negate there importance on the music scene as well. Anyway, thats just an opinion.....no offence at all. I like alot of music like I'm sure everyone here does....I just don't want my love for Stevie's music to cloud my judgement & to say she's the end all and be all of music. Alot of artists came before her and alot will and have come after her. I guess I want to be realistic about it all.....it is what it is.....

RoseGarden · #26 04-30-2009, 05:44 PM

This is a GREAT question!!!

This is only my opinion.......

Debbie Harry was into punk which really didn't take off.

Pat Benetar is awesome . I just don't think she put herself "out there" as much as Stevie.

Stevie has put 100% out there for her fans. (Nothing against Pat Benetar taking a break to have a family---that's great!) However, Stevie really did give up realtionships and family to keep her whole life to this career.
~Stevie is very feminine with her beautiful lace and chiffon and created a lovable , reliable look that many of us are very attracted to. She eminates strength yet vulnerabitly in her prescence.

RockALittle250 · #27 04-30-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by starshine

Lets see.....I really like Heart & Pat Benatar and Debbie....than I could also add to that mix--Annie Lennox or Natalie Merchant.....I'd say they all have had there moments in the spotlight so to speak. I'd also say (I'd put Stevie here solo & with Mac)....most all of these artists appeal has dimmed .....even Stevie's has. No artist (solo) or group can stay on top forever....all have had dips in there careers. Plus new artists come up & take the spotlight away from the older artists...thats the way it is. I don't think this makes Stevie a better artist either. Besides Stevie I like those artists mentioned above (and of course many others--not just female rockers either Rock groups other singers).....Although I do think other than the release of TISL and SYW....we have really no new music from Stevie. I personally don't count CV or the new live cd/dvd either cause well most of its rehashed of old hits.....I think if Stevie had released 'new' stuff more often....it might be different.....So yes I may love Stevie's music solo and with Mac but that doesn't make other artists just as important to me. Though I may not 'collect' them like I have Stevie.....that doesn't negate there importance on the music scene as well. Anyway, thats just an opinion.....no offence at all. I like alot of music like I'm sure everyone here does....I just don't want my love for Stevie's music to cloud my judgement & to say she's the end all and be all of music. Alot of artists came before her and alot will and have come after her. I guess I want to be realistic about it all.....it is what it is.....

Unlike Deborah Harry or Pat Benatar, who i think are great artists btw, Stevie has the ability to release those kinds of albums under her control and specifications because her career spans about 4 decades, and she wasn't just a staple of only one generation of music.

RoseGarden · #28 04-30-2009, 05:49 PM

Oh , I forgot about Heart. HMMMM.....that's a real mystery. Those girls are really talented! I don't have an answer why Stevie is more popular than they are except for maybe Stevie still tours ?

**jbrownsjr** · #29 04-30-2009, 06:08 PM

Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, and Lindsey Buckingham.....

These 4 people helped her as much as she helped them...

LukeA · #30 04-30-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RoseGarden

Oh , I forgot about Heart. HMMMM.....that's a real mystery. Those girls are really talented! I don't have an answer why Stevie is more popular than they are except for maybe Stevie still tours ?

Heart still tours- they just play 2500 capacity venues while Stevie plays 5000-7500.

Did Heart ever have an album that was the best selling album of all time? Heck, even one of Heart's biggest hits was a Stevie Nicks reject.