Tacky-lame TITN and Redrocks videos

[jedw]

I Haven;t got either of these in my collection, do enjoy the mirage video though.

While on the subject; what is on this tape exactly ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...%3DI%26otn%3D2

anybody know which youtube clips might corespond to the concert on this tape?

[David]

Originally Posted by jedw

While on the subject; what is on this tape exactly ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...%3DI%26otn%3D2

anybody know which youtube clips might corespond to the concert on this tape?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmQ_1sXZJxI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyWq2...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCc7M...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZgpJ...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHjid...eature=related

All filmed December 12 & 13, 1981, at Fox Wilshire Theatre in Beverly Hills

[jedw]

Originally Posted by David

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmQ_1sXZJxI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyWq2...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCc7M...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZgpJ...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHjid...eature=related

All filmed December 12 & 13, 1981, at Fox Wilshire Theatre in Beverly Hills

Thanks very much for answering my question so well

[lacesundone]

I know many-a-Stevie fan that hates Red Rocks.
But I worship it! It is a time capusle performance of 1986.
I love the extended Stand Back Intro, I love the stage, I love the Bass Player swaying back and forth during Dreams, I love the dresses the girls are wearing. I even love how awful the editing and close ups are. I put Red Rocks DVD on as background when I'm getting ready for a night on the town. It's classic.

[petep9000]

I hated the slow-mo stuff, and how it all looked so gauzy or foggy. When I caught their NY leg in 1987, I could see that Stevie was dramatically different. But, this video makes it looks 900 times worse. She looks so dull and dazed.
Anyone remember the VH1 special they did to promote this concert video? It had a lot of weird Mick sequences, including him coming out of a box like he was Nosferatu. And Stevie's hair was frizzed out yet flat and she wasn't wearing much make-up, and Billy looked like he had a horrible cold.
Oh, and this is where we get to see Stevie smoking on stage while doing rehearsal.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by lacesundone

I know many-a-Stevie fan that hates Red Rocks.
But I worship it! It is a time capusle performance of 1986.

I'm a Red Rocks fan too. I recognize its flaws, but I still love it. I was about 16 when it was released, and -- like most 16 year olds at that time -- I was totally obsessed with MTV. Red Rocks is basically an extended version of the concert videos that MTV used to play at the time. They really weren't meant to capture the concert experience, per se, but to venerate the artists. All the little 16 year olds idolized these bands, and the videos fed that with the reverential close-ups and slow-mo shots.

However, the one thing about Red Rocks that always grated on my nerves then, and still does today -- the looped audience noise. They must've sampled a 35-40 second recording of the audience cheering, and then tracked it all the way through the show. Listen for a long whistle, followed by a short whistle... and then pay attention to how it just keeps repeating over and over and over again. It can be a bit like Chinese water torture once you pick up on it.

[EnchantedKiwi]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Well, he admittedly was drunk and high at that time so...

What did Mick actually do in the video?
Ive got it and it says that he makes a guest appearance, the only thing I can see is that he's their just standing around, tapping some bongo drum here and there

[watchdevil17]

Seems like I remember this weird editing trick in the RR video... I think it was during a guitar part of NSW where Waddy is in the foreground, in motion, but Stevie is in the background, FROZEN!!! within the same set of frames.... as a kid, I felt this only helped to provide proof to all the witch rumours!

[David]

Originally Posted by EnchantedKiwi

What did Mick actually do in the video?
Ive got it and it says that he makes a guest appearance, the only thing I can see is that he's their just standing around, tapping some bongo drum here and there

He used to appear onstage at the Rock a Little shows & play either congas or bongo drums next to Bobbye Hall. Stevie always made a big playful deal out of introducing him during the band introductions.

[wheart]

Originally Posted by lacesundone

I know many-a-Stevie fan that hates Red Rocks.
But I worship it! It is a time capusle performance of 1986.
I love the extended Stand Back Intro, I love the stage, I love the Bass Player swaying back and forth during Dreams, I love the dresses the girls are wearing. I even love how awful the editing and close ups are. I put Red Rocks DVD on as background when I'm getting ready for a night on the town. It's classic.

Well I"m glad I"m not the only who feels this way!! I love the entire thing; the good, the bad and the ugly!! For all its flaws, I believe it captures this period of Stevie's career perfectly. How can anyone watch that edge walk and not feel something incredibly special? It is classic and I, too, have put this on while getting ready for a night out!

[BellaDonna93]

Originally Posted by AnthonyMI

[rant]Ok, so I dug out my old VHS of Tango In the Night and the DVD of Red Rocks I only ever watched once each. They are so incredibly tacky! Why on earth did people EVER think those Stevie Nicks closeups of her lip syncing were good? Uhg. Its so depressing. Both those shows would have been so much better if they had just filmed the shows and edited them like the way the HBO concert and the Mirage concert were presented. Stevie's Hair does not even match from cut to cut! Her eyes look dead on the closeups, but you can see in the live footage she is actually moving and breathing! The clothes and hair are one thing, but the editing HORRENDOUS. [/rant]

Which gets me to asking. Does anyone know if there is raw footage of these concerts out there ? Maybe someday we will get a reedited DVD issue of TITN with a "Tacky" original version and then the "Original".

I think it's very sad that they refilmed it, with the close-ups...Stevie doesn't looks like that when she did the concert! When you see the parts when she isn't close o the camera, she doesn't looks like she does when she's filmed close up! It makes me feel sad...Her hair isn't the same...Her face doesn't looks the same...
Well, for example, when she does the Edge Walk, you can totally see that they have done something to the film...I don't like that they did that...but however, I LOVE the dvd!!! I use to watch it in hours! The songs are still the same, and her voice is still the same I absolutley love Stand Back, Edge Of 17, BATB, HAEWAFY, the dove part is the best in the film!!! I have the conversation between Stevie and the dove down here as you can see...

Love the dvd, but would prefer the original cuts

[lacesundone]

Originally Posted by wheart

Well I"m glad I"m not the only who feels this way!! I love the entire thing; the good, the bad and the ugly!! For all its flaws, I believe it captures this period of Stevie's career perfectly. How can anyone watch that edge walk and not feel something incredibly special? It is classic and I, too, have put this on while getting ready for a night out!

YAY!! I'm not alone!

[lacesundone]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'm a Red Rocks fan too. I recognize its flaws, but I still love it. I was about 16 when it was released, and -- like most 16 year olds at that time -- I was totally obsessed with MTV. Red Rocks is basically an extended version of the concert videos that MTV used to play at the time. They really weren't meant to capture the concert experience, per se, but to venerate the artists. All the little 16 year olds idolized these bands, and the videos fed that with the reverential close-ups and slow-mo shots.

However, the one thing about Red Rocks that always grated on my nerves then, and still does today -- the looped audience noise. They must've sampled a 35-40 second recording of the audience cheering, and then tracked it all the way through the show. Listen for a long whistle, followed by a short whistle... and then pay attention to how it just keeps repeating over and over and over again. It can be a bit like Chinese water torture once you pick up on it.

I can't believe I've never noticed the audience loop before! That is Brilliant!

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by EnchantedKiwi

What did Mick actually do in the video?
Ive got it and it says that he makes a guest appearance, the only thing I can see is that he's their just standing around, tapping some bongo drum here and there

Yeah. Not much. He did help out with the dove incident.

[Matthew]

I have to say my opinion. I´m big fan of this period you´re talking about. It´s simply 80s. I like the fashion, hairstyle, the videos and also the two concert videos. One of the most favourite, Stevie had amazing voice in Tango video, I really love it, especially Gold Dust Woman and Stand Back. The music is great. And at Red Rocks... she is so crazy there, maybe the close-ups aren´t so great, but i really enjoy the sound, i just listen to the audio of this concert and i love it. Maybe my most favourite version of Edge of Seventeen, definitely best live performance of Talk To Me.

etc. etc. I just love this time . You know that.