No more workout songs

skuncles · #1 03-12-2009, 12:48 PM

I've noticed that the Mac no longer do any of the "workout" songs. Songs like "Not That Funny" or "Sisters Of The Moon". "Rhiannon" is one these workout songs, but even it has been toned way down over the years. I have to say I am surprised that Lindsey still does what I consider to be one of his masterpieces, "I'm So Afraid" since that is one of the workout songs. BY workout songs I just mean the longer, tougher songs to pull off. I seriously doubt we'll ever see "Sisters" done live ever again. To do that song properly Stevie has to really put herself in a different frame of mind. I don't think she likes going there anymore.

michelej1 · #2 03-12-2009, 12:56 PM

Well, you still have EO17 for her solo shows. That's a work out.

Michele

HejiraNYC · #3 03-12-2009, 12:59 PM

I think the live versions of "Go Your Own Way" and "Tusk" are kinda like "mini-workouts." If anything, I am glad that we didn't get more workout songs, e.g., "Come." They're just too long, too self-indulgent and kinda get grating after a while. And I know I will get lots of heat for this, but I don't think Lindsey is that kind of guitarist, i.e., a master improvisational musician who can do articulate, innovative fretwork for ten-minute stretches. Lindsey starts out strongly, but his solos tend to devolve into cliched, predictable licks and sloppy riffs, albeit, performed in a larger-than-life manner; it's definitely much more interesting watching him perform than to listen to him. Lindsey's strength lies in his ability to render short, highly-structured pieces, playing both bass and lead melodies, and providing sympathetic counterpoint to the lead vocal. But as a soloing musician? Not so much...

HejiraNYC · #4 03-12-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

Well, you still have EO17 for her solo shows. That's a work out.

Michele

I'll trade your EO17 for four other short songs.

michelej1 · #5 03-12-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I'll trade your EO17 for four other short songs.

I'll see your 4 songs and ask you what other showstopper are we going to close the show with before the encore? Not Stand Back, because I'd rather drop Stand Back than EO17, wouldn't you? So . . . I guess enough people in the audience know I Can't Wait and Talk To Me or it could be Seven Wonders. Although Seven Wonders is more soothing and we need a "tear the house down" number right at the end.

Wild Heart would have been a contender back in the day, but not anymore.

I guess the only other optiions are Whole Lotta Trouble or something from RAL. In that case, the sad little audience would be leaving the venue disappointed and befuddled.

Michele

David · #6 03-12-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by skuncles

I've noticed that the Mac no longer do any of the "workout" songs. Songs like "Not That Funny" or "Sisters Of The Moon". "Rhiannon" is one these workout songs, but even it has been toned way down over the years. I have to say I am surprised that Lindsey still does what I consider to be one of his masterpieces, "I'm So Afraid" since that is one of the workout songs. BY workout songs I just mean the longer, tougher songs to pull off. I seriously doubt we'll ever see "Sisters" done live ever again. To do that song properly Stevie has to really put herself in a different frame of mind. I don't think she likes going there anymore.

Don't they still do "World Turning." That's a major workout (compared with the rest of the set) for the players.

I don't know what it sounds like these days with all those peripherals (human & machine) onstage, but it used to be Lindsey's finest picking & Mick & John's finest drony pocket. Even Christine used to rise to the occasion, incorporating bits of Chopin into her riffs.

TheScoop · #7 03-12-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

I'll see your 4 songs and ask you what other showstopper are we going to close the show with before the encore? Not Stand Back, because I'd rather drop Stand Back than EO17, wouldn't you? So . . . I guess enough people in the audience know I Can't Wait and Talk To Me or it could be Seven Wonders. Although Seven Wonders is more soothing and we need a "tear the house down" number right at the end.

Wild Heart would have been a contender back in the day, but not anymore.

I guess the only other optiions are Whole Lotta Trouble or something from RAL. In that case, the sad little audience would be leaving the venue disappointed and befuddled.

Michele

Rooms On Fire, I Can't Wait, Whole Lotta Trouble, Planets Of The Universe (extended version), No Spoken Word, & Long Way To Go would all be great closers before the encore, IMO.

HejiraNYC · #8 03-12-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

we need a "tear the house down" number right at the end.

Michele

Sistahs of the F**kin' Moon! I would toss folding chairs if I heard that.

michelej1 · #9 03-12-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Sistahs of the F**kin' Moon!

Well yes, there's that.

Michele

newyawka · #10 03-12-2009, 01:50 PM

you know what, stevie is not gonna do sisters of the moon again. sisters of the moon represents fleetwood mac at a certain point of their lives and they've moved on from that, and i think that's good. ACCEPT THAT. i'm so sick and tired of hearing people whine over sisters of the moon. get over it and be happy with what you got. a full set masterfully performed by sixty year olds! that in itself is awesome.

HejiraNYC · #11 03-12-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by newyawka

you know what, stevie is not gonna do sisters of the moon again. sisters of the moon represents fleetwood mac at a certain point of their lives and they've moved on from that, and i think that's good. ACCEPT THAT. i'm so sick and tired of hearing people whine over sisters of the moon. get over it and be happy with what you got. a full set masterfully performed by sixty year olds! that in itself is awesome.

Take a chill pill, yo. We are just speculating on the Stevie Stock Exchange here. I think we have already accepted that SOTM is probably never going to be heard again, but the fact remains that it would hypothetically kick EO17's behind to the curb. Anytime. That's all...

goldustsongbird · #12 03-12-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by newyawka

you know what, stevie is not gonna do sisters of the moon again. sisters of the moon represents fleetwood mac at a certain point of their lives and they've moved on from that, and i think that's good. ACCEPT THAT. i'm so sick and tired of hearing people whine over sisters of the moon. get over it and be happy with what you got. a full set masterfully performed by sixty year olds! that in itself is awesome.

I've never wanted to hear SOTM past the Mirage tour.

People wanted Storms and they got it. I think that was a wise choice. It's taken on a certain poignancy with Stevie being older. I don't care if they don't sweat it out onstage anymore. Lindsey's World Turning on the GoS tour was long enough for me.

skcin · #13 03-12-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I think the live versions of "Go Your Own Way" and "Tusk" are kinda like "mini-workouts." If anything, I am glad that we didn't get more workout songs, e.g., "Come." They're just too long, too self-indulgent and kinda get grating after a while.

ITA

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Originally Posted by newyawka

you know what, stevie is not gonna do sisters of the moon again. sisters of the moon represents fleetwood mac at a certain point of their lives and they've moved on from that, and i think that's good. ACCEPT THAT. i'm so sick and tired of hearing people whine over sisters of the moon. get over it and be happy with what you got. a full set masterfully performed by sixty year olds! that in itself is awesome.

Who's whining?

He just said it would be a kickass closer.

HejiraNYC · #14 03-12-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird

I've never wanted to hear SOTM past the Mirage tour.

I think Stevie would have kicked the sh** out of SOTM on the RAL tour. Stevie was a smidge manic, but still pretty much in control for the Mirage tour. But Mama was rip-off-the-Lee-press-on-nails batsh*t on RAL.

It would have been a disaster (maybe), but it would have been hardcore!

newyawka · #15 03-12-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin

Who's whining?

He just said it would be a kickass closer.

Oh come on, everyone on here whined about Sisters of the Moon. It's all I heard about since the moment Unleashed was announced til the day of the first show, and even after the setlist was confirmed after the first show, all I saw was "so disappointed, no Sisters of the Moon." I mean honestly, if that's not whining what is?