3rd Watch (finally!) - Page 3

seteca · #31 02-25-2003, 10:53 AM

I don't like this version at all. I've listened to it many times now and my opinion isn't changing in the least. The song has totally lost its energy, the adrenaline-factor, it's "edge"...whatever you wanna call it....it's not there anymore.

Why has the guitar work been cut down so much? And the parts that have been left in have been edited themselves into parts "that could have been great", and which would seem unnecessary to someone who hasn't heard the original version.
I can't believe that "insane laughter" connecting the parts of the chorus has been removed. It's things like that which always made a song "signature Lindsey Buckingham/LB with FM".
Couple the "normalisation" of the song with the fact that it is distinctively slower than the original, and it sounds simply boring. All the energy of the original is missing. I know this song was used for "3rd watch", but it now sounds like it was specifically made as the soundtrack to a TV show. The instrumentation verges on elevator music.

Stevie's vocals: The vocals themselves are good, and I was very happily surprised that she managed (as someone mentioned before) to go that high during the chorus, and I am really looking forward to hearing her new songs. However, I cannot stand the way they've been mixed into the song: they are far too forward in the mix, and totally not balanced with Lindsey's. It sounds more like a Stevie song with Lindsey singing backing, rather than a harmony between the two. It's so uneven that it sounds almost like the song was produced by an amateur on a home mini-studio. Perhaps the mix will sound differently on the actual CD, but I doubt it.

The only good thing left about this song is its amazingly catchy melody, which will go round and round in your head all day even if they remove all vocals, replace the guitar with a trumpet and use elephant sounds as the lead.

I hope, HOPE, that Red Rover, Come and Murrow have not received the same treatment. I am almost certain that the latter two have been dramatically changed, but I pray that Red Rover has been left exactly how it was, and will be a Lindsey solo song, like NGBA on Rumours. Its track-time for the album seems to be practically the same as the GOS version, so here's hoping...

"Pushing envelopes"...eh?

All JMVHO.

kristin · #32 02-25-2003, 11:27 AM

I absolutely LOVE this song......this is what Fleetwood Mac is suppsed to sound like....to me, this is what was missing from the other tracks we have heard.....those multiple, tightly layered vocal harmonies.....I was so glad to hear this song!!

Kristin

Les · #33 02-25-2003, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by seteca
Why has the guitar work been cut down so much?

I haven't heard it yet, but it occurs to me that it's possible that the guitar work hasn't really been cut out of the song, but largely trimmed or muted out of the clip(s) that the show chose to use for the song. That's been done before for clips used on t.v. Just a thought.

Rainman · #34 02-25-2003, 11:39 AM

AAAUUUGGGGHHHH!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO THIS SONG? THEY KILLED EVERY BIT OF ENERGY IT HAD. IT'S CRAP!!!

&%$#

Now it's just a bland little pop tune, and not very pop at that.

Oh, please let this not be the album version. PUHLEEEEEZE!

kristin · #35 02-25-2003, 11:42 AM

haha.....I think it is SOOOOOOO funny how we have such a MIXED bunch of reactions here to this song.....total love to total hate......oh, and those background vocals are probably sharon and whoever else is going to be backing them on tour, like on the dance tour.....

Kristin

Trin · #36 02-25-2003, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Phil
Could someone please post a link for "Peacekeeper"? I can't seem to locate it on Mick's site.

You can find Peacekeeper here:
http://thetonerstore.net/bbs/peacekeeper.mp3

HoneyHi · #37 02-25-2003, 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by blinker12
They took out that weird computerized "ah-uh-uh-ah-ah-ah" that comes after "soon all the suns will rise" and "love is the sweet surprise" in the chorus on Lindsey's version. I liked that!

If you listen to the snippet of peacekeeper at burnish.net you'll find that in fact the "ah-uh-uh-ah-ah-ah" is still in there.

It's just not audible in the other version posted at sararhiannon.com. Actually I prefer the burnish.net version, Stevie doesn't seem to drown Lindsey out so much in that one.

strandinthewind · #38 02-25-2003, 12:28 PM

While I LOVE Stevie's high and soaring harmony on the chorus (a la David Letterman Big Love), I have to say, her signing loudly in the main part of the song somewhat detracts from the energy of what we assume was the original posted on the web. But, even with that, its still a great song!!!!!!

SilverGirl · #39 02-25-2003, 12:30 PM

posted on a Third Watch board:

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I heard a song in tonight's episode, not sure if it's the Fleetwood Mac song... some of the lyrics were "wait for the darkness of the night" and "love is the sweetest.." and I'm not 100% sure if those were the exact words. I tried to get "Peacekeepers" on WinMx, no luck. Is that the song I heard and if not, do you know what the title of that song is?

Thanks>>>>

so....at least it got some notice from other than us "hard core" Macsters!

estranged4life · #40 02-25-2003, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Trin
You can find Peacekeeper here:
http://thetonerstore.net/bbs/peacekeeper.mp3

...for the link Trin, That's the one I used last nite from Mick's website...And welcome to the Ledge....Brian J.

Trin · #41 02-25-2003, 01:01 PM

Thanks Brian...
I dropped down the quality to bring down the file size.
Regards
Trin

PS I keep looking over my shoulder to see if I get stoned off the board.

stefan · #42 02-25-2003, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by HoneyHi
If you listen to the snippet of peacekeeper at burnish.net you'll find that in fact the "ah-uh-uh-ah-ah-ah" is still in there. It's just not audible in the other version posted at sararhiannon.com. Actually I prefer the burnish.net version, Stevie doesn't seem to drown Lindsey out so much in that one.

Antje, that was great! I tried it out and there is in fact a huge difference. The chorus is balanced out much better and so you finally hear LB`s voice too

That and the fact that some things like the "ah uh`s etc" are on the one version and not on the other makes it likely that the album version contains the guitarsound some of us were missing here. Thanks again for the hint!

Dar · #43 02-25-2003, 01:02 PM

I personally loved the version I heard last night. I didn't hear anyone elses voices. Only Stevie and Lindsey. I heard Stevie doing 2 harmony parts as she's always done as long as I can remember. She sounds great. I was hoping the new album was a mix of the two other than half GOS and part Stevie solo. It's suppose to be Fleetwood Mac. That has and hopefully always will be the fantastic harmony that only those two voices can bring. Thats only my opinion.

Les · #44 02-25-2003, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by HoneyHi
If you listen to the snippet of peacekeeper at burnish.net you'll find that in fact the "ah-uh-uh-ah-ah-ah" is still in there. It's just not audible in the other version posted at sararhiannon.com. Actually I prefer the burnish.net version, Stevie doesn't seem to drown Lindsey out so much in that one.

I just listened to both and agree with you. Thanks for pointing that out. The mix of the clip Tracy posted sounds more balanced between the two of them vocally, and I can hear more detail in the song, like the "ah-uh-uh-uh-ah-ah-ah." Hehe, that was fun to type out.

seteca · #45 02-25-2003, 01:25 PM

Well I just downloaded the burnish.net version and....wow...!! Much....MUCH better!!!!!

So the apparently weird sounding mix was due to the recording quality of the previous one I had (someone sent it to me last night, I don't know where they got it), and not because of bad production....I should know better than to question LB's production abilities, aahhh, I am SO relieved.

The difference in quality is amazing, the weird laugh IS there, and the two voices ARE blended together really well! Stevie's voice sounds really sweet during the chorus, rather than intimidatingly forward on the previous version I heard.

I like it, a lot.

Phewwww....(wipes sweat of his forehead)!

Some of the guitar parts that I thought were totally edited out ARE still there, they've just been changed and it was VERY hard to hear the changed part on the version I got last night. In particular, I love the addtition of the cool tremolo effect...at around 1:00 and 1:11.

The only thing I still definitely prefer from the previous one is its pace....this one is too slow, not energetic enough. Hopefully they'll do it faster live.

I have a feeling that the reason why there are such mixed feelings here regarding the song is that people have downloaded the clip from different sites. The version where Stevie's voice seems to be totally drowning out Lindsey's, is like that because it's a recording of only half the output! It's like listening to a song which has been mixed in stereo with only one earphone. That first version I heard is obviously Stevie's side of the mix. John's bass is also VERY heavy sounding on that version, because it's on the same side. The burnish.net version has been recorded properly, and you hear the whole song, not just 50% of it!

Ahh...thank God for that! For a few hours I thought Lindsey had gone mad!