Any ledgies from the 97-2000 era left?

[james]

thank you, i'll do something special this & each june 19

i recall many Ledgies…apologies to those overlooked, you’re not forgotten, my recall ability is poor:

anthony – when i had a flashback lurk this morning, there he was, the michigan man, first & foremost

barbara h – i would habitually would look for her posts…such a breath of fresh air…such a sad loss

barb – a wonderful pal, most folks wouldn’t tolerate me for an entire decade – integrity personified

bn – my partner in crime and wit for many years, lost touch, I trust and truly hope he is very well

chili – legendary

david – was always comforted that there were others who had a plain, common member name like mine

hayley – quite a head (red) on those shoulders, took time to get on her good side & hope i’ve remained so

james kirk – fellow canuck who first exposed me to a very clear LP> cassette recording of buck/nicks A+

john b – aka, joe – showed me the ropes, do’s & donts of the net…more dont’s than do’s were retained

johnny stew – always the voice of reason

julie k – truly kind brit/scot gal who is hopefully just too busy with work, fun and theatre to keep in touch

karen/kathy – kind, very kind

keith – wonderful chap, you could look hi & lo and wouldn’t find a mean spirited word in any of his posts

kispirit – had the great fortune of colliding back in early days of the ledge, the slimmest mother on earth

lauren – i don’t think there is a more dedicated & knowledgeable Lindsey fan…lyric interp extraordinaire

les – must have authored a book or encyclopedia by now, what a mind and way with words

luke – always interesting posts, a survivor

marty – thx, a lot of work put into this, what that man endured as moderator…oh, thanks to lis also

patti – a true delight, i would bet she is making somebody giggle this very moment

phil – many laughs exchanged and everyone seemed to enjoy his clever FM music medley quizzes

regina – i remember her arrival on the scene and the constant clarification of how to pronounce her name

sarah – common name but I’m referring to one of the younger members at the time, a very intriguing mind

shane – another survivor and valued member – is any of that late 90’s stuff archived? (polls, pics, etc?)

stephanie – an appreciator of music, diverse taste, big bodean fan, stunning, heart always pumping to the beat

villavic – man of the world. always loved your photos and reading bn and villavic banter over the years

Vianna – my 1st internet acquaintance some dozen yrs ago – when I e-mailed that first time I was nervous, she responded with nothing less than kindness and generosity, her smiling photo is now, truly, a treasure

V was a dedicated teacher for decades, she loved the beach boys, loved to share good music, loved cats

i wasn’t sure if her e-mail was “vcatlvr27” because there were 26 others who had a similar addy, or because she had cared for 27 cats…back in 2000 i was down in NH and thought of detouring to VA and taking her by surprise…regretfully, i never followed that idea through…may peace be with you, V…eternal hugs, jim

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip...fleetwood.html

[David]

Originally Posted by james

bn – my partner in crime and wit for many years, lost touch, I trust and truly hope he is very well

Bill & I talk Beethoven & Palestrina by e-mail. I think he's fine. You should e-mail him!

[Miragex69x]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

this is on a side note....from things way back in the day
I also remember Maureen Loftus(sp?) and James from Yonkers NY (can't remember the last name) who I believe had the master tapes for the nashville 77 and "day on the green '77" (actually kansas city right?) soundboard tapes and released them on CD (25.00 or 35.00 for their CDR with artwork at the time)

I just remember maureen had this huge as list and charged like 15.00, if not more for a 2 CASSETTE recording!!! lol. She would post these huge press release type posts on usernet advertising the upcoming release of Nashville 77, Baton Rouge 78, and the Mirage outtakes. All of which always had pristine crystal clear sound...Ha Ha HA.

Maureen and James always seemed to work together but I don't remember if they were related. I would imagine they made a good chunk of change off of that circle of fans for a few years. They were a little shady.

Plus to add to the "mystique" of bootleg fandom...there were rumours that complete unheard soundboard tapes for more tusk and rumours shows existed in their hands, including those that were hauled off to australia by some guy who refused to share them (dave you would know his name)...
I suppose we will never know exactly what they actually had but never shared. I think a lot of it was BS...but I think the australia source was legit. David would know the full scoop and its probably already been hashed over a million times by now.

I still wonder what in the heck happened to them...they both vanished sometime around 2001 or after.

I think the last time I ever saw any evidence of them dates back to early 2001 before TISL was finished or released, around the time of the dallas austin sessions. One of them bragged to me about having the complete album in their hands as an early release and hinted to all these BS track titles.

Hello everyone. I am back now, and also have been on the boards since the mid 90s!

BOY have the times changed! Anywho I remember that sh*tasss James from Yonkers. What a slimy sleezeball. He posted all over, I think those aol boards too always selling anything and everything. I remember he was front row for Stevie's Jones Beach Enchanted 98 show. He was lucky enough that Stevie's what bass player I think, randomly asked him his name and he had Landslide dedicated. He started bragging about it on the boards, then everyone complained "If Stevie only knew what you really did with her music".

I am glad the times have changed, and he no longer has outlets to make money off of bootlegs. He never got a dime from me!

All of you young kids lol are lucky today. You turn your computer on and waaa laaa within a second you have every Stevie/Fmac video or anything they ever did all over youtube. We did not have any of that in the 90s. The only thing we kind of did have on the net was a website called TheQueenOfRock.com or something. They had most of the Stevie basic MTV videos up. But with slow connection speeds, there was no high speed internet back then, it could take an hour or more to download one video to watch.

I remember even before the internet. The only way to get rare videos, was to order bootleg catalogs from the back of the classified section in Rolling Stone Magazine, or go to some trade show. I went on a huge video store search all around town and found copies of the Mirage and Tusk shows. After renting them, I could not make copies with my vcr's because the tapes had some magentic strip or some crap that kept making the new copies dark. So I begged and begged the video store manager and they sold me the videos. This was before ebay, and the tapes had been out of print since the 80s. I felt like I had a goldmine in my hands at the time .

As it has been stated already, there were no instant demo mp3's you just click and throw into your Ipod back then, like there is now. In the old days, you made friends on the net and set up snail mail trades. I would go buy blank cassette tapes, and use my old boom box to make copies of shows/demos and mail them out lol. Then, within a week I would go to the damn mailbox everyday with my hopes UP! Finally the day comes where you get that package in the mail and you get all excited with the treasures you would get!

I also enjoyed the excitement you got when you emailed Ginny Karmano before she went crazy. For those of you who do not know her she answered all of Stevie's fan mail in the 80s. By the mid 90s she had a website and you could email her Stevie questions. Sometimes, she would get back to you. I will never forgot the excitement that overtook my body when I would get a Stevie reply from her! I felt like an insider lol, at such a young age.

[BigAl84]

I remember the queen of rock site! That was the best site for video and interview clips in the pre-youtube, pre-high speed internet days! I think that site has been closed since 2000 or maybe 2001. It actually had some cool clips that are a little bit harder to find on youtube...especially the australian radio program that played the tusk album and interviewed the band the whole time as well.

I remember, I was all of 13 or 14 and my parents had a 28kb dial up modem. It would take forever for that five minute video or audio clip to buffer on realplayer! Ahh those were the days!!!!!

It's kind of sad, the amount of big resourceful sites that have gone by the wayside. Sararhiannon.com had the largest photo archive and I don't believe anyone else has had the same archive to this day. Today you would be forever tracking down half the photos she had on that site, not to mention the massive trade list and demo lyrics. Since most of the trading sites kind of went away with the onset of high speed, it's hard to grasp a sense of what has been taped and what hasn't or what's available and what's not! Especially with the newer fleetwood mac tours etc.

Tracy at Burnish.net is sadly missed as well!! Add stevienicks-info on the list too!

[Lauren]

Originally Posted by LukeA

In Summer '05...

http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/sh...ad.php?t=21970

She died June 19, 2008

oh so sad- I just had no idea. I was pregnant that summer and didn't get on much and never knew she was even ill. She was so helpful with my LB site and so sweet. Very sad indeed.

[Justine]

:::Waves to everyone:::

I remember many people!!! Hopefully some of you remember me, too.

Wow, it's been a long time. I always mean to come here (the ledge) but time passes, and....well, yeah it's been a while. Still a big FM fan, although I kind of "overlistened" to them for a while. But will always love them.

Really sorry to hear that a couple people from the Ledge died.

To the rest of you, hope you're doing really well!

*Justine*

[sodascouts]

What a shame about Vianna.

[Lauren]

Originally Posted by james

thank you, i'll do something special this & each june 19

i recall many Ledgies…apologies to those overlooked, you’re not forgotten, my recall ability is poor:

anthony – when i had a flashback lurk this morning, there he was, the michigan man, first & foremost

barbara h – i would habitually would look for her posts…such a breath of fresh air…such a sad loss

barb – a wonderful pal, most folks wouldn’t tolerate me for an entire decade – integrity personified

bn – my partner in crime and wit for many years, lost touch, I trust and truly hope he is very well

chili – legendary

david – was always comforted that there were others who had a plain, common member name like mine

hayley – quite a head (red) on those shoulders, took time to get on her good side & hope i’ve remained so

james kirk – fellow canuck who first exposed me to a very clear LP> cassette recording of buck/nicks A+

john b – aka, joe – showed me the ropes, do’s & donts of the net…more dont’s than do’s were retained

johnny stew – always the voice of reason

julie k – truly kind brit/scot gal who is hopefully just too busy with work, fun and theatre to keep in touch

karen/kathy – kind, very kind

keith – wonderful chap, you could look hi & lo and wouldn’t find a mean spirited word in any of his posts

kispirit – had the great fortune of colliding back in early days of the ledge, the slimmest mother on earth

lauren – i don’t think there is a more dedicated & knowledgeable Lindsey fan…lyric interp extraordinaire

les – must have authored a book or encyclopedia by now, what a mind and way with words

luke – always interesting posts, a survivor

marty – thx, a lot of work put into this, what that man endured as moderator…oh, thanks to lis also

patti – a true delight, i would bet she is making somebody giggle this very moment

phil – many laughs exchanged and everyone seemed to enjoy his clever FM music medley quizzes

regina – i remember her arrival on the scene and the constant clarification of how to pronounce her name

sarah – common name but I’m referring to one of the younger members at the time, a very intriguing mind

shane – another survivor and valued member – is any of that late 90’s stuff archived? (polls, pics, etc?)

stephanie – an appreciator of music, diverse taste, big bodean fan, stunning, heart always pumping to the beat

villavic – man of the world. always loved your photos and reading bn and villavic banter over the years

Vianna – my 1st internet acquaintance some dozen yrs ago – when I e-mailed that first time I was nervous, she responded with nothing less than kindness and generosity, her smiling photo is now, truly, a treasure

V was a dedicated teacher for decades, she loved the beach boys, loved to share good music, loved cats

i wasn’t sure if her e-mail was “vcatlvr27” because there were 26 others who had a similar addy, or because she had cared for 27 cats…back in 2000 i was down in NH and thought of detouring to VA and taking her by surprise…regretfully, i never followed that idea through…may peace be with you, V…eternal hugs, jim

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip...fleetwood.html

what a memory you have! wow, I remember so many more of these people now that you posted them and you described everyone so well! thanks James :-)

[LukeA]

Originally Posted by Justine

:::Waves to everyone:::

I remember many people!!! Hopefully some of you remember me, too.

Wow, it's been a long time. I always mean to come here (the ledge) but time passes, and....well, yeah it's been a while. Still a big FM fan, although I kind of "overlistened" to them for a while. But will always love them.

Really sorry to hear that a couple people from the Ledge died.

To the rest of you, hope you're doing really well!

*Justine*

Justine! of course I remember you!

[sodascouts]

I realize I'm not the best person to ask this considering how long I've been away, but where's Johnny Stew? I thought he was still a regular around here, but I don't see any posts by him lately.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

not to mention the massive trade list and demo lyrics. Since most of the trading sites kind of went away with the onset of high speed, it's hard to grasp a sense of what has been taped and what hasn't or what's available and what's not! Especially with the newer fleetwood mac tours etc.

not that many of us traders still around, with the increase in torrent sharing trading tapes/cd's has become less popular than it once was.

I've tried to keep track on what has been in circulation the past few tours (ie - Stevie & Linds' solo tours and the SYW tour 2003-2004), but it does get time consuming after awhile - but I will be at it again come March.


RIP Vianna, you are truly missed! I remember PM conversations with her when Debbie was battling cancer in late 2003/early 2004 - Her words of wisdom helped me out during that time.

[markolas]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

I realize I'm not the best person to ask this considering how long I've been away, but where's Johnny Stew? I thought he was still a regular around here, but I don't see any posts by him lately.

Well, I think he got a boyfriend, for one thing. I also remember hearing something about one or both of his parents not being in good health.

He's still listed as a moderator and I've seen occasional posts from him, but nowhere near as much as he used to.

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by markolas

I also remember hearing something about one or both of his parents not being in good health.

Oh, I'm sorry to hear that! I hope all is well with them.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Regina

I actually met very nice people here. Literally and cyber-ly.

Hey Regina! I remember you from years ago (probably 10 years or so now, as I joined during The Dance, senior year of high school). You traded (actually 2 for 1) with me for stuff back then. I can't remember what it was, maybe some old cassettes of Stevie/Jim Ladd interviews? Perhaps even some videos. I wish I could remember what they were exactly but after a decade stuff like that seems to slip from memory! Some of the videos I aqcuired back then were the Tusk Doc, Mirage Tour, and Disney's Going Home. I'm pretty sure I got those from Marty and Liz themselves back when they used to have the trade page with tons of videos and cassettes that you could buy. That was really nice, but it seems like a lot of people got upset over it (bootlegging) and Marty decided to do away with it. Between you and Marty/Liz, that's how my collection of rarities got started. So thanks!

I love seeing the names of the old ledgies and reminiscing on the days of the "Old Ledge." I never posted much back then (and still really don't) so most people have no idea who I am, but either way it's always fun to talk albout the past!

Brad

[Brad]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

Tracy at Burnish.net is sadly missed as well!! Add stevienicks-info on the list too!

I used to lurk on that site as well and really enjoyed it. From what I recall there was a lot of drama on the message board (I know, right?) and one day she just said, literally, "I've had enough" and it ended. I would check months later to see if she had opened the boards back up yet, but it never happened and then I think the site eventually disappeared for good.

Brad