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[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Mad4stevie

Yes. What I want to see is the ability to get in to see a specialist without waiting 6 months to get an appointment! I paid out of pocket for my health insurance when I was in private practice, and it was ridiculous. I have herniated discs from a car accident that need routine care and medication, and my first party medical benefits from car insurance were long surpassed, so I had to have the medical. Spending nearly $400 a month was cheaper than paying for prescriptions out of pocket. I don't know how some people afford meds without insurance.

I know - and you were young (I mean younger ) then. How is McCain's $5,000 tax deal going to help you when the wages to get there will be taxed and you have to pay like $400 a month and you have not spent one dime on a deductible or anything not covered, a list that I can assure you will grow once deregulation hits. Moreover, when you hit 40 or 50, I suggest that amount will double and, without consistent regulations, the insurers can exclude any ailment they want. Finally, if you get a cheaper policy that does not cover much when you are younger and less sick so to speak, good luck changing companies when you get to 50 or so.

[Mad4stevie]

Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

II am with you on Obama. He is a bit of a deer in the headlights, but like you say, he's better than McCain.

Biden certainly didn't help the "deer in the headlights" perspective when he said he would be very involved in decisions made by Obama - that he was going to be "in the room with him when the big decisions are made", as if he needed to hold his hand or something.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by Richard B

That's because it is easier to support 2 million people than 298 million.

more than 2 million American Indians in this country...There's probably that many in Oklahoma alone.

[Mad4stevie]

The gloves are off!!!

"Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran" AGAIN

"I will get Osama, I know how to get him, I promise to do it" - well WTF have you been waiting for??

Even though McCain isn't a lawyer, he sounds like one after all these years in Washington. They are both so full of it - trying to speak with confidence but not really saying anything.

[estranged4life]

^^^
Isnt that a Beach Boys song? My bad, that would be "Barbara Ann"

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

more than 2 million American Indians in this country...There's probably that many in Oklahoma alone.

Yea - Although I like Richard ( ) -- his argument is a little misleading. The wealth and budget of the U.S. and state governments combined more than compensates to equality or more the difference in the economy of scale between the two.

But, I am not really for socialized medicine in the US because the US Govt. could fu*k up a wet dream.

As for McCain saying he was not gung ho on Iraq, give me a break. He could not wait to get there and did everything he could to make sure we went. He, a former POW who was tortured, deliberately sent our troops to Iraq when he damn well knew we did not have to go. So much for his experience. Then, he asserts or implies all is forgiven because the surge worked. That is like thanking your rapist for calling an ambulance on his way out.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Mad4stevie

. . . "I will get Osama, I know how to get him, I promise to do it" - well WTF have you been waiting for??

For McCain, it was the promise of glory in Iraq.

Notice how McCain has not mentioned his vote and cheerleading for Iraq.

[estranged4life]

^^^
I betcha if the US used the amount of $$$$ used to support World War III, Oops, uh "The War on Terror" - that EVERYONE would have coverage by now.

As for finding and capturing 'terrorists', I will use the words my dear ol' Mom said, "These idiots couldnt find their balls with both hands".

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Mad4stevie

Biden certainly didn't help the "deer in the headlights" perspective when he said he would be very involved in decisions made by Obama - that he was going to be "in the room with him when the big decisions are made", as if he needed to hold his hand or something.

I was interested in that line by Biden.

Clearly, Cheney's expansion of the VP slot is not contained in the US Constitution as Palin, in further confirmation of her inane mind, asserted.

But, Biden's assertion was not in the Const. either.

All the Const. really talks about is the VP becoming President should the President become unable to serve and acting as the presiding officer of the U.S. Senate.

So, while they are both wrong, Palin's view is more against the Const. because it seeks to expand exact lang. Nothing in the Const. speaks to the VP being in the room with the Pres. Personally, I think Biden said it as way of reassuring people that he would lend his vast experience to the neophyte Obama.

As an aside, I would have LOVED to have seen Hillary debate Palin. It would be like watching a biker chick go after a blond haired, mindless, Tri Delt

[estranged4life]

^^^Please refrain insulting biker chicks by comparing 'em to Hideous Clinton

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

^^^Please refrain insulting biker chicks by comparing 'em to Hideous Clinton

I always said Hillary might be a little better looking in tight black leather



Note -- I love bikes and those who have them.

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

more than 2 million American Indians in this country...There's probably that many in Oklahoma alone.

Going off the 1990 Census of US Native American population (30 largest tribes).
But the point is not about the exact figure of the population, but of the massive difference as to why it does not work as simply as you asked originally.

[Richard B]

Both of these guys are frightening. I'm not sure I want to be responsible for putting either in office. Obama has quite the stutter.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I always said Hillary might be a little better looking in tight black leather

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by Richard B

Going off the 1990 Census of US Native American population (30 largest tribes).

sarcastic with my 2 million amount in Oklahoma, Everyone wants to be 'Injun' to get the medical coverage these days (Which shows how much faith us 'half-breeds' have in the US govt. - Ya know, the same one that stoled our lands )