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Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

Basically, Chicago is corrupt. When hasn't it been?

Okay, watch this then:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/9596/meet-...ovember-9-1997

Clinton used the exact same reasons to go to war on this episode of Meet the Press that Bush iterated six years later. Given that this was 1997, according to what you are saying, that means that somehow while Bush was governor of Texas he must have lied to Bill Clinton too, 6 years earlier. Clinton must have listened to Bush over his own Secretary of State, his own National Security Advisor, over all of the foreign policy experts under his employ, just to listen to the then governor of Texas. Bush must have lied to the Russians, British and French 6 years before starting the war too. That position that "Bush lied" has been disproven to the point of ridiculousness. How can anyone watch Bill Clinton say the exact same thing as Bush six years earlier and still maintain that Bush lied? Yours is a common, but not a defendable position, it's just one that sounds great on a bumper sticker. Unfortunately, what goes on bumper stickers often passes for truth. Goebbles would be proud of American politics. We repeat lies (such as the one that "Bush lied") that they sound like the truth despite overwhelming facts that contradict popular opinion.

Give me an example of McCain race baiting. He hasn't done it. What I do see are Obama surrogates using race as an excuse in case he loses. Do a google search and you'll see a ton of articles on the subject. McCain has not mentioned his race once.

The simple act of allowing some redneck to yell out "terrorist" when McCain mentioned Obama at his rally and not even bothering to respond is implicitly race baiting..Why does Palin keep repeating terrorist and Obama interminably if they were not trying to get people to make that connection ..please it's all too clear what they are attempting to do ..just despicable.What I did say was that Bush started the Iraqi war on false pretenses we know that to be a fact and I never knew that Clinton starting the Iraqi war!.What a revelation. Now excuse me while I go water my orange grass with dry water.